This is the FCB podcast Network. Great when they drunk, yaw boot change that dot Dog. We don't listen to y'alls. This the Countdog. We don't listen to y'alls. This the Old Dog. Make a scream out down like a sound dug because the rockets in the crowd like a ball tuned into the charge from the outlog. Tuned into the charge from the outlog. Welcome to the Outlaws. This is Darfyo the King Morrow, alongside Robin O'Malley and Dante Bright. Don't forget too. Like us on Facebook and Facebook dot com slash the Outlove Radio. Follow us on Twitter and Instagram at the Outlaws and Radio. We have a lot of things to discuss, But first, Dante, how you doing Turn? I fantastic. We I really wish we could broadcast some of the show, some of the stuff we talk about off air. I understand why we can't, but it's like a pre show and I feel like I'm just amped to to talk. Even more so, I just hope this show's as good as the one we just right. The show before the show was amazing. Now I'm gonna say this, I have to make I have to point this out real quick. So all right, Dante and I are both sports fans, We're both knowledgeable fans. I have to point this out thought. I told my brother that I did not believe in the Celtics, and they proved me right. I told you I did not believe in them, and they melted down like I knew they would. They're not a serious team. I am. I am happy they did, though, because I am holding this Denver Nuggets to win the championship ticket that I got at the beginning of the playoffs, and then I got another one at when they were tied two to two against against the Suns. So I am thrilled that is Miami in the finals because we've only played one game. But if you follow me on Twitter, I predict this series is going to be over quickly. I am exstatic that Boston melted down because I think I think Denver would have beat them too, but I think it would have been more of a fifty fifty series, a closer series, just because Boston has a lot of talent. I am thrilled get Boston out of there. But I think what we should take credit for forget Boston, Miami played a hell of a series. Many this is one. I think this run is over, but they have. This has been one of the better, like more improbable championship runs that we've seem Yeah, you know, the unfortunate thing I was. I was actually hoping. I was rooting to see Jimmy Butler get a ring because I think he deserves it. But now, since you just said what you said, now I'm torn because basically what I just heard robbing is that if the Nuggets win, then it's dinner on Dante. That's why, Hey, we could do it. We can do dinner because the Nuggets come through for me, and I think they will. This is uh, this is great. This is gonna be a nice payout the Nuggets. But they are the team I usually like when there's somebody who I tap is like that guy special, and then they have to deal with the criticism and so, you know this not to get too far off in the weeds, but the Yokich has been subject to certain criticisms because a lot of players who may be wider from Europe, they get labeled as like softer, you know whatever, and so I'm always when I think that guy is really one of the top guy, I kind of always want them to win, just to eliminate that criticism. I felt the same way about Jannis because a lot of people were like, I don't really like but then when he won, you you can't say those things about him anymore. So I'm happy that's gonna go this way. But I'm with you, though, man. I do I do wish that Jimmy could get a ring at some point because he played I mean that whole team, Like that whole team, I mean last series they have, I mean all those guys that were undrafted, I mean these guys in eighth seed. We didn't even think they were gonna make the play in or the playoffs because they were losing to Chicago in a in a last playoff game, in the last playing game. So to go from that to the finals, you can't do nothing but saluted. Yeah, And it's because of his his hustle. Man, his his hustle, Like Jimmy, I and so I I too believe that Denver is going to win. I think they're the better team. Um, but Miami just beat the better team right before. Who knows, Well, we'll see what happens. Um. You know, Game one wasn't that wasn't that pretty? So well, we'll see what happens. But uh, dinner on Dante if A Nuggets win, Robin. How are you? I'm great, you know. I actually spent my afternoon down at the beach, so I'm I'm in a good mood. I'm great. Good. No I canna say. I'm sitting out in the sun, my daughter playing in the water, and and I really didn't want to leave. I didn't want to leave, honestly, I'm gonna be honest with you. I had to like pretend in my mind like I was back in La you know. But it was. It was real nice. It was real nice, like to actually sit out on the beach and it's not just to soak up the sun and all the positive vibes and deal with people because you know, I'm Capricorn and sometimes we people and sometimes we don't people. Um. It's funny too because I didn't even know you were over there, because I was. I was in that area for a little bit today too. Um, just enjoying. You know. It was beautiful. It was beautiful, man, It was like a it was one of those perfect days, like the lake was looking all blue and the sun was out and it was a beauty. It was a beautiful day in the city, beautiful day in the city. So yeah, I can definitely. And it was a lot of people out there, um at the beach and enjoying that. It was a decent amount of people. But you know what, honestly, I haven't been down to Edgewater, um in quite some years, and so I was judging. I was judging before and I'll looking at that, you know, I was like, oh, no, it's so nasty down there. It's disgusting, because last time I went down it was no, it was not it here. The sand is all soft. Now it's like not all dry and hard. So if there's no needles in the sand, no more. And then it actually didn't smell. It didn't even smell it used to. But you know what, I'm gonna tell you what my daughter did. Okay, so listen, I have to tell you this. So she said she seemed a fish. She seemed to fish while she was in the water. You know, she says, she DIDs it his fish. She says, she barely flapped the fish. Oh, and I'm like, child, that is not not Yeah, don't let don't let Peter hear that. You're gonna have some problems. But for people who don't know, UM. So the so the beach that she's the Robin's talking about that she was at and that I was nearby, UM is a gorgeous beach now. And it wasn't probably about seven eight years ago, it wasn't like that. UM. It used to be a state park and when the state ran it, they didn't care about that park at all. They didn't care about that beach at all. It was it was a dump when they were in it. UM. But recently, Robin probably maybe about six years ago something like now. UM, the Cleveland Metroparks, which is a it's a big park system here in in the Cleveland area, and they have beautiful parks everywhere they everywhere they're at, they have beautiful parks. The Cleveland metro Parks took over Edgewater and that's why Edgewater is the way it is now. So Edgewater has a has like a beach house where people like picking at that. I don't know if it's open yet, but it was like a little restaurant at Oh listen, listen, yeah, because you know what. And I actually bought some food from the like not up top, but on the bottom, like yeah, yeah, it's all open. But when normally when you go to beaches and in any state, usually when I have gone to you know, uh, they're like they're they're, um, what is it called on the their boardwalk? Yeah? Usually what it is? Uh, normally the food is very expensive, you know what I mean? And I got my daughter something to eat and got me something to eat on our way out, and it's just like, I really didn't spend anything over twenty dollars. It wasn't It really wasn't expensive at all. Yeah, like blown. Yeah. Yeah. So if y'all ever in the U, if y'all ever in the Cleveland area, especially during the spring, spring or summer, make sure that you'll stop by Edward Beach. It's a beautiful place. So, um, let's see here. It was something I wanted to talk about. In my mind just went blank for a second. That's that, you know, that's that thirty plus you know what I'm saying. We get up there, you start blanking a little bit. Well, Dante, there was there's one thing that that happened recently. The country didn't go into default. Explain this for the people, because I have an opinion, but I really want yours, because I know you followed this a lot closer than I have. Yeah, I mean you understand that we're in the we just had the NFL Draft, NFL free agency, and it's been the NBA playoffs, So as you understand, my time is kind of taken up by other things, more important things. I might add, right, No, I'm just kidding, but no, explain this even further because I think I know what's going on, but I just want to be sure. So there was a big there was a big deal, a big dead ceiling deal between the President and the Speaker of the House. And so basically the dead ceiling is almost like a credit card limit, right, so we've already spent the money and when we go to the to the deat ceiling, like we have to raise the limit in order to be able to pay the credit card. Basically, so we were coming up towards the limits, and basically what would have happened is had we went to the limit, we were we're facing the limit next week the beginning of next week. Had we went to the limit, the country would have technically went into default on the loans that we have, which means, if you think inflation is bad. Now, if an inflation would have skyrocketed um, it would have been it would have reached haven on the economy. Not a controversy there. The whole idea is controversial because there are some people who believe that if they wanted to extend the time a little bit, they could have. But there are some who believe that they would have out of spite, had there not been a death seiling deal, they would have allowed the country to go into default. I'm not gonna go that far. I don't dispute that, but for purpose of this conversation, basically, it's you bought stuff on your credit card and you need the limit to go up in order for you to pay for the stuff you already bought. That's basically, if you're gonna put it in layman's terms, from my understanding, that's essentially what it is. Now. It became a it became a controversy. We got this late in the first place because for four months President Biden didn't not want to negotiate. He wanted them to give him basically what they call a clean debt ceiling increase, and the House was not willing to do that. They were able to negotiate to get some to get some spending cuts and stuff like that, because the issue that the country has is that we are extremely, extremely, extremely over debt. We have a lot of debt here in the Cleveland area. If you go on the highway on seventy seven, I believe there's either seventy seven or four eighty wanted it two. There's a billboard on the side on the left side that has the how much debt is, like the debt clock, and it shows how much each man, woman and child has in the country. And I think it's like what we all owe, what like fifty thousand and sixty something thousand because of how high that is. And had the country went under default, then you would have had things like so security payments wouldn't be going out one time, people wouldn't have been able to access it, would have issues with Medicare and Medicaid, people who are on food stamps would have had issues with food saying all that kind of stuff. So it would have been really bad. But it didn't have to get this. It didn't have to get to this point in the first place. If the president wouldn't being so damned stubborn and chose to negotiate four months ago when he had to, when he had plenty of time to get a deal. So your thoughts. So, essentially we're just spending in printing more money, but we sort of have to because we essentially agreed to spend the money already. Correct, And it would basically believe people who didn't do anything wrong sol if we didn't, if we didn't decided to print more. That's exactly right. Yeah, I mean it's one of those things where you got a gun point You've got a gun pointed at yourself, right right, It's like, look, man, I've already signed up for this, and if I don't go through with it, I'm pulling the trigger on myself. But if I do go through with it, I'm pulling the trigger on myself. So I mean, you that sounded like American government to me. Right, Let me solve this problem by creating another problem. And it's okay because that when that bill is due, I'll just create another bill and push it out right, pretty much just kicking the can down the road. Now, there was one thing that was part of the bill, um that I'm not a particular fan of, and I want to explain why. Then, I want to get your thoughts, Dantay and your thoughts robbing on this. So one of the things that's part of the bill was they put in work or requirements for food stacks. Now, one of the issues that I have with quote unquote work requirements in general. I'm not opposed to the idea, to the concepts of work requirements. I'm not opposed to that. The problem that I have is the way that things are structured right now. So you can have someone, let's say they're on financial assistance, right they get a job, the government drops them immediately in most places off of that, so you so the reality ends up being that you're poorer with the job then you'd be without. And it's funny because I had just I was at a bar last week and just randomly had a conversation with bartender who is a single mom working two jobs, trying to put a kid through school and on this kid going to private school, getting ready to go to college. And you know, she was talking about one of the reasons why she busts her ass is because you know, the government don't won't help you if you're working, you got you can't make She was like, you can't make no money in order to get help. Which is crazy to me, is people have these kinds we always talk about, Oh this distancentivizes work. That distancentivises work where you give people a choice between either work with no assistance. And especially if you're if you're starting out, if you're starting out in the job for it. If you're starting out in the job market, you're not getting out most of the time, you're not getting a high paid job, You're getting a lower wage job as you start off. Right So if you're starting off at a low wage job where you're not making a lot of money, you're barely able to make it, you need that assistance. But right now, if you get a job, they just get rid of you, so you end up being poor with the job then without it. There was a I'll never forget there was a story about it. I think it was like a burger king, a Burger King or McDonald something like that in inner city Cleveland that the owner, when the owners launched it, this entire goal was to hire people only people that came from the projects, like to help lift people out of poverty. And what he found was he couldn't get enough workers because they would come in, they want the job, they want to work, and then they say, well, well, if I get this job, I lose I lose everything. And I got two kids or three kids or whatever, so you're you lose the you you. The people aren't stupid, they're making a cost benefit analysis the same. Wait a minute, I'm gonna be broker with the job then without it. I just want to work. So if you're gonna talk about work requiring and all of that, we need to address that. We need to because I think if you're getting if you're on assistance, and you get a job, it needs to be a more gradual phase out based on how much money you're actually making, not just saying well you got a job, I'm taking your food away, I'm taking you you know what I'm saying, like, because that, in my view, that distance advisors work because people aren't stupid. People are gonna make the best decisions for themselves and their and their kids. And if you're telling me that I'm gonna lose my benefits, I'm gonna lose my food stats. I want to lose my childcare. Childcare is like thirty something thousand dollars a year in most states. You know what I'm saying, and and there's government assistance for that. But if you if you may, if you work, you lose that. So why would you do so? Why would you do that? So it's like people aren't people aren't stupid. Yeah, we all know. We all know that some lazy person gaming system. We know those people exist. But for the most part, people are making rational decisions that can cost benefit analysis and saying, look, this is gonna I'm gonna make less money doing this. So what ends up happening People end up not working or they end up getting jobs under the table because they trying to feed themselves in their families down Tell your thought. Yeah, I don't like anything that this is that de incentivizes people to get jobs. I think we saw a little bit of that during a pandemic with how unemployment was treated. And I think what these safety net programs are should be here to do is to incentivize people to want to get off of them, not force people to have a decision as to whether I actually have to stay here or like, it shouldn't be more beneficial for me to be on welfare than to have a job, right, It's that's not what a safety that is supposed to be for it's supposed to make sure that those who have fallen on hard times, or single mothers or people who are disabled don't fall through the cracks. It isn't supposed to be a system where enable bodied, well capable person has to make a decision about I could probably make more money playing the system versus getting a job that that should not be a thing. Um. But oftentimes, at least just from what I see in a micro sense, and this is all anecdotal, but it does seem like people who need the system have to go above and beyond to prove that they do, while a lot of times people who are gaining the system seem to skate right through. Um. So like for example, for example, if you're a college student and let's and you don't have access, like you don't come from money. I don't think that you should be forced to go into further debt that will cripple you later in life. I don't if the if the government is going to give that money for a lot, I mean, I'd rather they be a part of the safety net. Then say somebody who is a scammer, right, so like you you know, and I just I don't know. Man, I just look at our system sometimes, like I understand why it has to be broad and why generalizations have to be made because you're dealing with a lot of people. Yeah, but I do wish that we could have more interpersonal connection because I just I don't want people who actually need this to have to come to a decision like, man, if I go get this job, I'm stuck because I you know, we won't be able to eat or you know things. Maybe that shouldn't ever be a question. Yeah, yeah, it should be. Well, the system doesn't work for the people it's supposed to work for, it should be a gradual phase out, not just dropping you. You know what I'm saying. It's And I saw Robin, there was someone I tweeted about this, and there was someone who had responded to me, and they talked about in their job, how they had hired their job had hired these people and and you know they rapport and stuff like that. These people did a credible job, and the boss wanted to give them a rain. And one woman turned down the rains because if she had got the rains, she would have lost her childcare benefits. And childcare was like thirty some thousand dollars a year. This is insane. You cannot work past a certain amount of hours. Yeah, and you cannot make you cannot make, you cannot make up to a certain amount per hour. You know, women like me, it's like we that's not the goal, right, we all want to do that because for first and foremost we do not like the government all about our business where you gotta sit there and you got to report every little detail of your life and so that right there is already stressful enough. But you know, if they are talking about like you have to work, so here is my you know, question on that because like, you know, I know, I know people. I know women that have children that are little little ones and they have like, you know, she's unable to work. You know, I know one person where she's unable to work and she's on you know, social Security and food stamps. It's like, do people like that half to get a job. Are they obligated to get a job, because if they're they're not able to like physically mentally not capable to do that, how do they go about? So are they on social security or are they on disability? But it's all the same. But it's different. But well, that's yeah, that's a good question because and the reason why I ask is because if it's social security, then that that would insinuate that they're of a certain age, which I think they're They would be good because I think this goes up to like fifty four. I think I think fifty four is the cut off. Um. And then also you have uh, I think if you don't have a dependent, like if you have a dependent, it may not it may not be in place that I'm not sure. I have to have to check about that, but I think that that's a valid question. And these are these are some of the things that I think people who grew up rich never interacted with anyone who was in the system or had to deal with the system. I think these are the things that those folks, those kind of folks don't think about, you know what I'm saying. And now I was gonna say, I would say, like as I was saying before, like I mean to cut you off. Um. Like I was saying, is like with a lot of a lot of these single moms, like like when when a woman has no choice but to go with the government assistance, Um, you know, the least that they could do is give her some leadway, give her a chance to get it together. Don't because you immediately, if you have to, you have to let them know I have a job. This is how much I make. Immediately they will snatch it or they will cut it all the way down. Um. With food stamps, you know, like if your rent, if your rent changes, they will cut your food stamp. Um. It's like, you know, the smallest little thing, the second that you report it, they will snatch it away or they will cut it down. Yeah, and it's like then you're screwed. And especially now you're screwed because um, the way that the prices of food that has gone up, it makes it even harder. Yep. Like you get four items and that's already all about one hundred dollars if not more. Yep, that's right, that's right. I mean, this is when you're you're talking about forty year high in inflation here, this is not the time to be screwing around with with those programs, you know what I'm saying. And yeah, yeah, and now you gotta debate when you're in that situation, Now you gotta debate. Okay, Um, do I pay my rent? Do I pay my rent fully, I pay my lights, my gas, or do I go buy food? Yep, absolutely, you're in that situation. And then there's the churches. You can go to Salvation Army, you can go to these churches. Yes, I'm gonna tell you right now. I grew up in poverty. I grew up in the struggle where my mom and my dad went to the churches every month to go get food for our house because we ain't have enough to feed everybody, you know what I mean. And they'll only allow you to go once a month, and you have to show that you live in that area. You have to show proof. So if you go to that church and they give you a certain amount of food, you can't go to another church because you don't you don't live in that area. Yeah, and you know what's what's what's funny? What's and I don't mean funny, how I mean funny, it's like ironic, you know, it's it's real interesting that you said that, Rob, because I remember, you know, as growing up, I grew up in poverty too. Thank god, we weren't. We weren't that poor where we had to go to churches. But my mother worked for the churches, right, and so my mother involved the nonprofit sector, involved with the organizations and churches and nonprofits that we're doing those programs. And the interesting thing about it, you saw it on that end, but what's interesting on the back end, the government never gives those churches and nonprofits enough money to feed people either. Nope. Actually, you know what, it's not even the government. A lot of the times is the government isn't the one that covers the things. It's actually the community. Yep. It is somebody that's in that church, yep, yep, absolutely absolutely. So it's like again once again, this is a general theme on this show. A lot of these these people in power don't give a damn about you. And we point that out because we have seen cha. Yeah, we've seen all sides of the struggle. And Dante, I'll go to you and then and then we'll close. There was one thing that happened that I will never forget. It was my first experience with the system, with how this system looks. I think I was like in the in the sixth grade maybe, and the government was doing it was money that came from the federal government. They were doing this program where they were helping port. They were letting poor people get furniture, and you were able to get couches and all kinds of stuff. Right and at the time, you know, my mother went to look because we were really struggling, really struggling, and we needed it. My mother goes in and I think, I can't remember if it was a couch or or bid refrigerator. It was refrigerator. It was a refrigerator. We really needed a refrigerator really bad. Our refrigerator had went out. We had no money to replace it. She goes and meets with these people to get this refrigerator. She qualifies for it. Financially, we're poor. You know what those fos told my mother does say. They asked about my father and asked my father. Was my father on child support? My mother told them my father was not on child support because he didn't need to be on child support. They had an arrangement between the two of them, and he was meeting his obligations in the arrangement, so there was no need to put him on child support. They told my mother that they would not give her that refrigerator unless you put my father on child support. Wow. She got up and walked out Wow. Yeah, that's a and you yeah, I don't even know, man, that's a take you back to those you know, to the days of the sixties and seventies where you hear the stories about how when single parents were on welfare, the welfare person would come to your house to make sure that no man lived there. Yeah, right, not a boyfriend. And I know step daddy and I know person you're shocking up with, not the kid's dad. So like, if there wasn't man there, or if mom was dating somebody, you can't leave nothing, you know what I mean. The movie that I think about, that movie Claudine, Yeah, with James Earl Jones, right, so he you know they you gotta hide, you gotta hide the welfare lady here and the kids knew the routine and all that, and it's just like, wow, So you you mean to tell me that in order to help poor people, you need to make sure that they are putting themselves in a position to stay poor so that you can help them. Because if they're doing if there's even a whiff that they're doing, okay, you're gonna cut them off. That's again it, you know, we see it in a lot of in a lot of systems right where we see the prison system is designed now for sort of cheap labor, not rehabilitation. So you wonder why there's a high rated people returning well because when they were in the penitentiary you use them as free labor and not or cheap labor. But instead of trying to actually rehabilitate them. When it comes to the welfare system, people would rather make jokes about you know, welfare queens and you know, all these baby daddies and all this stuff and all this stuff, when in reality it's like, I mean, shouldn't we be doing more with job programs and education programs so that people can actually go out and compete in the marketplace? Right, Like you made the mention earlier about childcare. Right if the person is trying to get a job, but they are bound to the fact that like I have children and I can only work certain our than like maybe childcare should be more affordable for them, or maybe you should help with that. Not well, if you get a job, you're not gonna be able to I'm gonna pull my resources, so essentially that person is stuck. I just all in all, man, I just really think that we got to do a better job of figuring out how we can put people in a position to elevate themselves and not make decisions when it comes to do I want to work or do I want to eat? Yeah? Yeah, absolutely, absolutely, it's absurd. And the last thing I'll say to close on the point that you made about the prison system, Dante, I was talking to a judge a couple of about a week, about a week or two ago, and the judge informed me that in Ohio they were just now restoring the ability for prisoners to get college degrees. And I'm like, why the hell did they take that away in the first once? What like, what justification can you have for saying, you know what, person in prison, I'm not going to allow you to get you used to be able to get a degree. We're gonna take that away from you. You can't get that anymore. So now they bring it back because they saw that was a bad idea. But what the hell made you think that that was okay in the first place? And a perfect example of what you said about cheap labor, because how does that help eighty what you're gonna do, You're gonna have these people. I'll never forget it. I will never ever, ever forget it. A friend of my mother's worked in UM and when they when when helping prisoners, when they come back home, I can't think of the re entry working re entry, and I will never forget it. It was probably about maybe four or five years before it happened. This lady, she's she's passed on now. But this lady was warning everybody, Hey, all of these you know, all those folks that we locked up in the eighties, in the nineties through the crack era. This is probably about twenty twenty fifteen. They get ready to come home because most of them went to prison for about what ten years, fifteen years, twenty years? Right, Steve was warning all of the elected officials, the people in power, Hey, these folks are about to come back home. You better have something for them to do when they go teddy streets up and go right back. Yeah, and guess what. And then people wonder why the recitivism rate is what it is. The reciptivism rate is what it is. It's because you're not rehabilitating the people. And yes, we know everybody can't be rehabilitated. We know that some people just need to be in jail. We know that. But the people who can be rehabilitated, you need to rehabilitate them so you don't send them back out to the world as better criminals. We don't. We don't think, man, we don't think. We're so really we're so reactive. We're so reactionary. We are always we're always stuck. Our political solutions are always caught between who extremes. It's always either lock everybody up and throw away the key, or let all the murderers have you know what I'm saying Like, it's never there's never there's never room for reasonable people in this conversation. And this is why the world looks the way it looks. On that note, we gonna lighten this thing up. We don't go to tease row where we come back here on the elbows. These days, it seems like everybody's talking, but no one is actually listening to the things they're saying. Critical thinking isn't dead, but it's definitely low on oxygen. Join me, Kiera Davis on just listen to yourself every week as we reason through issues big and small, critique our own ideas, and learn to draw our talking points all the way out to their logical conclusions. Subscribe to Just Listen to Yourself with Kia Davis, an FCB radio podcast on Apple, on Spotify, iHeart, or wherever you get your podcasts. Real talk, real conversations. We got the hell Yeah, this is the Outlaws Radio Show. Welcome, mag Walcome Maggie. Listening to the Outlaws and now it's time to tell them. We'd like to call Tea Time with Row. Turn it up yet confetition the latest celebrity news and gossips. It's Tea Time with Row on the Outlaws Radio Show. Me all right, Jasome, I've got to think a little bit to you, a little bit to you. But first we are going to start off. I would like to share my condolences. Um. I hate to do this to you guys, because I know that it's like a lot. You know. I've already had quite a few stories recently where this has happened. But recently, if you guys have ever watched the show called Wild and Out, it was hosted by Nick Cannon, so recently one of his the Wild and Out girls, she has passed away. Her name is So. She is married. I don't know what married, but she is with while dating uh DC Young Fly and her name on Instagram is miss Jackie oh, and I think that's her stage name. But she did recently pass away at the age of thirty two years old. She was under surgery, but you know, the cause of death as of right now, they have not said, so it is unknown. She is a mom of three. She has two little girls around like the age of four and five years old if that, and she had a little boy he is a little less than one years old. And so I do send my condolences to her husband and her family, her babies, her friends. I you know, I've seen one of her best friends that you know, I follow her best friend on Instagram. You know, she's like, like severely heartbroken. And I feel so bad because, if you know, just losing something so dear to you is like it's so unexplainable. But yeah, I do want to share my condolences with all of her left ones. Yeah yeah, we uh, Dante and I say the same. She was only thirty two. Man, thirty two years old, Like, that's that's messed up. Man's messed up. Is unfortunate. It's unfortunate that she died how she died. You know, there's a speculation about that, but most people are you know, most reports and saying that it was the result of a botched cosmetic surgery. Um, so it's just sad, man, it's just really sad and condulescens to her family and DC young Fly and his family and and all that happened. It's just that's messed up. It's messed up. Run. Yeah, that's not that's not the kind of news we like. Especially, I mean just thinking, you know, they probably woke up that morning thinking, you know, mommy's going for surgery, you know, all right, you know, have a good time, you know, and then boom, she's gone. You never see her again. Yeah, like that is a horrible, horrible thing at thirty two with three children. Yeah, you just feel for them, you really do. And I think you know, the one thing I will say is, um, a procedure is a procedure, whether it's cosmetic or or life you know, where you really have to have it for whatever reason. And just you know, just remember, guys, like you know, a procedure, any procedure, is dangerous, whether it's an elective one or not. So just just be careful, y'all. Next, absolutely so next we are gonna lighten it up a little bit um for Kanye West. Kanye West has gone through a tremendous amount of stress over time. Um, I think if anybody you know remembers, because I've talked about it a lot, where he was just spiraling, spiraling, spiraling, and he lost everything at one point due to comments that he has made, remarks that he has made, and now things are starting to look up for him. And honestly, I'm I'm happy for him, like he worked really hard for everything that he has um. But you know, recently, um, the judge denies Adidas the request to refreeze the seventy five million dollars of Kanye West's Yeezis funds. It's the slides. So if you know what Yeezies are, there like slides, and I don't know if he does. He have sneakers as well, I believe so he has, right, Yeah, he got slided there the yey slides they're they're real. Okay, Okay, So I know I know the slides, but I didn't know if he had sneakers that was along those lines. But um, so yeah, I mean shout out to him, congratulations and um yeah, just I hope that you know things start continue to keep looking up for him and he gets his mind right now that you know, he is being blessed again. Yeah, yeah, you know, he's That's one of those things. Man, Kanye is a genius and and there's a thin line between genius and insanity, and you know a few times he's crossed it. So it's a good thing that he's been kind of weighing low a little bit. Hopefully he's getting himselves together, getting his mind right. He hasn't been. I mean, most most of us who know who have been you know, Kanye fans. I'm a fan of his music. We've paid attention. Like, he hasn't really been right since his mother passed. And you know, to dovetail to back to the first story, his mother also passed as a result of having in a cosmetic intellective cosmetic surgery. So he just he ain't been right since. And so you know, I'm still I'm still rooting for Kanye. He was way out of line and stuff he was doing, The stuff he was saying was way out of line. And and I hope him, pray he gets it together well for starters, I'm happy that he's gonna get the money that he was entitled to. YEA, just because I don't want people to be in a situation like regardless of what he said, and some of the stuff that he said was, you know, he was out of line, like we talked about, we talked about on the show. But I don't want people, even people saying things that I may disagree with, or saying things that are worse than what he said. I just don't want them like having things that they are old stolen from them right now. I could understand if a Dida said, we no longer want to be in business with you, and so from this point on, if the relationship is terminated, but not you know, what you've already earned or what you've already accumulated, we're going to take it away from you. That is out of line in my opinion. And so I'm happy about that because I mean, we speak for a living, right like this is what we do. And so I just even if somebody says something that I don't like or that I disagree with, politician, athlete Rapp or whoever, I just think, you know, one day, the mob gonna come for one of us, and I don't want them to have a leg to stand on when they say, oh, well we're gonna take X, Y and Z that you've already worked for a way because we don't watch what you said now going forward, if people say we don't want to be in business with you because we know what you are, that's one thing to retroactively take something back that I've earned, that I've accomplished. I don't That never sits well with me. Yeah, I agree, I agree absolutely, Next Odo Next, I do not believe that I have ever spoke upon this gentleman upon our show, so Trade Songs, mister loverboy himself, whom the ladies tend to go crazy over. Well, it turns out this is the opposite. Um, Trey Songs is now facing ten ten million dollar lawsuit for exposing a woman's breast at a pool party. What and yeah, that don't you kind of reminds me of and I really just thought about tad is when Justin Timberlake accidentally knocked open Janet Jackson's top or knocked it down and exposed her Like I don't know why that just played in my head, but it did. Um, you know it. I wonder if if Trey Songs did this intentionally or was he like drunk. Could you know that poop alreadies? Everybody drinks? And it's like, was the girl's top like was it like a tube top? Was it like one of those shirts that the girls just have like tied and your boobs is like there, like and they're gonna fall out at any moment. Like, I need more details to this story because ten million lawsuit. It's like, was it his thoughts, sis or did you not have the right thing on? I think that then again, you know what I mean. I'm not I'm not even gonna continue where I was gonna go with that. I'm gonna very good question. I'm glad you were the one that asked it and not one of us. Um, I do think we need more we do, we do need more details. I mean trade and I'm a trade songs fan. I love his music. Um, he does have your reputation for a while and out. Um, so we'll see, we'll see what happens. But uh wait, wait wait dot Darbill. I'm sorry. I don't mean to cut you off. I'm so sorry, but I just find more details. Okay, let's go. Yeah, he's at fault. He's at fault. Um, apparently he grabbed her breast. He grabbed her and exposed her breast while at the pool party. Oh without consent. Yeah, no, that's not good. That's not good at all. Nante your thoughts. Yeah, you should have asked. Brother should have asked, and I'm sure she would have said no. So that means don't do it. Do it? It's not I don't know, man. Is it the money or like the fame or what that like? There's an entitlement thing here. I remember a football player, um Ezekiel Elliott got in trouble with the league and faced the civil lawsuit because he did something similar on like a parade or something where he, you know, just took this girl's top off. Often you know she wasn't really feeling it. So I don't know, man, Is there like some sort of or of invincibility or well, I think part of it is. And I hate to I hate to go back to the infamous Trump comment to grab them by the P word comment. There are so many like if you look at the full context of what he was saying, he was saying that when you're famous and rich, you know, there are women that will let you do whatever, and they're there is some truth to that. There are some women that are like that. And I think sometimes these these men, these famous men, whether athletes or actors, rappers or singers or whatever, businessmen whatever, they get so used to some women letting them do whatever they want that when they run into a woman that ain't with that, they think they can just do the same thing, and they get themselves in trouble because not every woman is like that. Not every woman is just gonna let you grab on her, feel on her because you got money. You know what I'm saying, Try me if you want to try and see Robin would have messed the money up, because see, these women be getting paid when they don't go for it. Robin not gonna go for it, but she gonna go upside their head and they counters her because she's gonna mess up the money. You're gonna get sued right back. No, if you're gonna wild out on them, I'm knock them upsidday head. You ain't gonna get paid. I don't know, because they're gonna sue you right back. Listen, listen, listen, you you listen. Okay, you know that movie? What's it? Is it? Friday After Next? Is it? Friday after next, which one what happens aka the best Friday Listen? I think it might be, or it's one of those, one of the one of them is one of them worre grab them. I'm pretty sure it's with the pliers. Oh yeah, that's Rightday after deck Listen. Try try because listen, we're gonna re enact that. Don't see like you said, she ain't gonna get nobody because she kick his an. No, you getting sued right back. You said you ain't gonna you ain't gonna salt me. I'm an salt. They robbing, gonna sue, robbing, gonna suit him for ten million, Judge gonna be like, here's Joe ten million. Now you gotta give it right back. No, trust me? And what go down like that? Okay, it wasn't you gonna see these Some of these girls be so shocked, and they should be, because nobody should be putting the hands on you without rob and she gonna beat him up. I will snack him like his mother. Okay, don't ever in your life ever trying me like that again. Do not there be they'll be they'll be carrying her out of there. N Why y'all arresting big, he started, and I bet you, I bet you. I still end up. I bet you, I still end up becoming umm famous in one way or another. After that, we still gonna sue, gonna be viral, We still donna suit. We're going to We have Dante's Hot Takes coming up next year on the LSST. Welcome back and listen to the Laws. I really wish y'all go hand a conversation. Oh man, um, make sure that you subscribe to the show on Apple, podcast, Spotify, iHeart, or wherever you get your podcasts. And if you listen to the show on Apple, make sure you leave us a five star review and a comment. It's very important for the algorithm and for those of you you've already done so, thank you also very much. And now it's the time to show that we like to call Dante's Hot takes telling the truth. Whether you like it or not, it's Dante's Hot Takes on the Law's Radio show. Maybe some of you have heard about the immigration situation that's going on, and it's affecting a lot of people across the country, in particular a lot of people, a lot of black people are speaking out because certain cities are taking resources or reallocating certain resources from the from there from their city to aid and house immigrants and other minorities. And in Chicago, there was a vote that passed City Council thirty four to thirteen that reallocated fifty one million dollars of surplus money to immigrants that would be arriving in the city. There was strong opposition from a lot of black groups because they felt that the city had not done enough to a keep them safe, bum from violence, be provide economic opportunities for them, and see how the homeless there that we're already in the city, and so they feel that it is a slap in the face to allocate surplus money and other funds to immigrants who have not yet contributed to the city. This is not a new topic, right The topic of immigration has long been a hotbed discussion in the black community. I mean going back to book or T. Washington when he warned black people not to be anti immigration, but to be anti immigration in droves because he understood that we as a minority who had to fight in claw and scratch for every some freedom and every piece every little resource that we got, understood that to create further competition for those resources would end up being detrimental to our people. So this is something that's not a new phenomenon, and in Black America, this is something that has long been discussed. And my thoughts are, it sucks to have to come out and be against inclusivity, but in certain cases, you have to prioritize your own well being and your own survival before you can reach out and provide aid to others. What do I mean? Okay, Robin is a parent, and we all Darvo and I have mothers and fathers. It would be outrageous if bench children were starving, but she were. But she's passing out meals to children she doesn't know. Now, the act of her feeding the homeless or the hungry is noble, not when her own children are starving. Come. That would not be That would no longer be rational. Right, You're you don't take away from those whom you are responsible for to provide aid to those who you are not responsible for. So I personally think that the city that a lot of these cities, a lot of sanctuary cities, are doing themselves and their constituents a major, major disservice because you are essentially taking money from your tax base to benefit those who a do not pay taxes. If we're just looking at this on a rational level, to benefit those who do not pay taxes and to benefit those who are new you should not alienate your voting block, your tax base. And in my opinion, it's a slap in the face again to the struggle that black people have gone through in this country. We've seen in certain aspects as it comes to government money for contracts, when it comes to, you know, the new terms around equality that you know, black people who have been lynched and beaten and enslaved and cut out of the financial system have worked in claude and scratched and fought to have certain things allocated to them, only for those things to then have to be shared with people who a did not go through that struggle and b did not ally with them through that struggle. So I just and this is again this is not to say that we should not help those in need, but I think that you should help those in your own home before leaving your home and then giving the resources in yours that were allocated to people in your home to somebody who's not in your home. I think that's unfair. I think it's a disservice to people in those communities, and I think that it should be again a wake up call for black people to get involved in a political system so that the resources that you fight for go to you. So I have two thoughts on this one. And like you said, it's not We're not saying that we shouldn't help anyone. I am not anti immigration. I support people coming here legally, but I'm in total agreement with the sense that you when how do you think your constituents feel when they see you're spending tens of millions, if not hundreds of millions of dollars for other people, as they look outside and see dilapidated buildings and pour up streets and the things that in their neighborhoods in their communities. People, when you take care of your people, those folks become more generous. They're more willing to help other folks if you take care of your own first, right, So I think there's that there's also I this, what you just said is the reason why I am a believer in coalition building and not intersectionality. I view those as two different things. It is important to build coalitions. I preach that very heavily. There are there are some shared experiences that black folks have, for example, with Hispanics, there are some shared experiences that black folks have would say poor and working class white people. There are some experiences, some commonalities, and I believe it's important to build coalitions and work with each other on the issues that we share. But that's different than intersectionality. What intersectionality says is that what benefits one group benefits all groups. That's bs I reject that. In my opinion, intersectionality is another way for black people to end up in the back of the bus because it gives people a justification for continuing to demand we vote for them, even though they give us nothing in return. It actually gives a justification for them demanding that we shouldn't have to that we shouldn't even ask for anything. So that's why I view coalition building and intersectionality is two different things. I am all four building coalitions. I reject the concept of intersectionality because it ends up leaving black people behind most of the time, and working class white people for that matter, most of the time. The second thing that I want to point to and stay stick with me for a second, what Dante just laid out is another reason why I do not believe it is in our best interest as black people when folks try to paint this narrative of us not being American or this not being our country, because essentially what happens is if we accept that narrative, which ironically is the same thing that the white nationalists say. So that's it's weird to see, like the super woke people say the same thing that the white nationalists say. But I digress. If we accept that narrative, is that interesting. If we accept that narrative, then we lose the ability to demand what we are entitled to as Americans. This is our country does our country too, so we are entitled. You should be taking care of us before you take care of people who aren't, who don't live here, who just got in here. But if we view ourselves as just ain't in our country, we ain't American, you can't, you can't. Who's that narrative? And then at the same time getting mad when they say, Okay, since you ain't American, we ain't gonna do nothing for you. We're gonna do something for these people who who just came here, who want to become American. I'm just saying Dante closes out. I agree, Um, everything that we haven't been through in this land, Uh yeah, we definitely definitely should claim this as our home. Um. I have been telling a lot of people recently that I I have I don't have any ties to Africa, and I'm not I'm not knocking those who do or who or who embrace those. I'm saying, if I go back generationally, in my family, the motherland for me would be considered the South. So while like my mother and her siblings are from New York is because my grandparents both migrated from the South and their parents were from the South. So and I'm talking Alabama and Georgia. I look at most black people in this country as being if your your ancestral roots, especially if I mean if if you can't, if we're talking five to six to seven generations going back, that's your ancestor, that's that's your motherland. And so I think we should take more pride in the fact that we're actually American. We are, and when you think about it, it was our ancestors who sort of shaped last century and fought to shape last century so that we could have the rights and privilege that we could. I mean, I don't think that our ancestors fought for the right to be equal, fought for the right to vote, fought for the right for us to be free. I mean we are people fought in every major war, starting with the Civil War, right lack people fought for our freedom war you know, yeah, yeah, I mean, so we died in every major war. Um, we fought to shape this country politically how it needed to be shaped. Right when if you want to talk about any of the Civil Rights Acts or what I consider modern day politics, right, anything post the Civil Rights Act, we had a hand in shape and that um, our vote, our voting block has mattered in just about every Democratic primary. Right. Joe Biden is the Democrat, was the Democratic nominee, ultimately becoming the president because he essentially he brokeer the deal with with a with a representative from South Carolina who which ensured him to black vote. That's how he won the nomination and became president. Right. So if we shape this country militaristically or help shape it militaristically and politically and culturally, this is our this is our home too too, and we should take pride in that absolutely absolutely let him how to follow you, Sir. Follow me on Instagram and Twitter at t Bride tae b r Ye, Miss O'Malley. Follow me on Instagram at Real Robin O'Malley. Follow me on Facebook at Just Robbing O'Malley and TikTok. 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