This is the FCB podcast network. Great. This is when they trunk job boot change, says Don John. We don't listen to y'all this. We don't listen to y'all. This the out make them scream out now like a sound because. The ruck is in the crowd like a Paul. Tune in the charge for the Outlaw. Tune in the charge for the Outlaw. Welcome to the Outlaws. This is Daria to Kington Mall alongside robbin on Mali don't forget too like up on Facebook at facebook dot com slash B Outlaws Radio, follow us on x and Instagram at the Outlaws Radio. We have a special guest that we're gonna get to in just a little bit. But first listen, Malie. How are you? I'm great, Dario, I am so great. You know what, Darrio, I actually been going to the gym the past couple of weeks, and if it's hard to actually force myself to go, but it's it's been good, I mean mentally, and my kids have been doing some fighting classes because y'all know a couple of those segments over time, I talked about how my kids were getting bullied. So we ain't gonna have that no more next school year. You know what I'm saying. I told you, I told you what to tell your kids to do. They should have been jumping on them kids. Well I'll tell what the teachers said. It ain't gonna be no more. All gonna be no more next year. My kids coming, they're coming, correct. Yeah, So it's been good, it's been good. How are you, Darbyon? I'm all right, man, I'm all right, just a slow motion man. You know, I'm a lot of. Stuff going on, a lot of a lot of stuff going on around here, keeping me busy all the time. But now I actually get for the first time, like in a long time, to just like relax for a little bit. And just chill and kind of catch my breath. You know, our work a lot, but it's all good stuff, all good. Stuff too, you know what I'm saying. So yeah, I'm. Good, man, I'm good. I'm chilling and got a. Lot of cool stuff going on that we'll be talking about and in future on future episodes and all of that. Love that, yes, absolutely so. But first we have a special interview that we're gonna get to right now. All right, we have a very special guest on the show today. He's been on this show before. Cleveland City Council and Joe Jones walking back, How you doing, sir, I'm doing super DARBYO. How are you, sir? I'm good. I'm good. Good to talk to you. I'm really interested to kind of dig into what we're gonna be talking about here. We're gonna be a lot of the topic that we're going to be addressing today is concerning opportunity zones, and we'll unpack that in a little bit, but just for people who don't know, an opportunity zone is a federal economic and development tool that was created by the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act of twenty seventeen that allows investors to receive tax benefits for investing in designated low income communities. So they're encouraged to invest in to qualified opportunity funds or certain projects that fuel community development, housing, and job creation, and they can reduce their tax burden by doing so. So I wanted to just kind of set the tone. There for people who may not know what opportunity zones are, because we're going to be talking a lot about them today. So moving forward, counselmen, tell us what exactly is happening right now in Ward One around opportunity zones and economic development. Well you know right now, DARBYO. One of the most important things is we're working with our CDC development partners and stakeholders to position War One and Southeast Side for long term investment and economic growth. This is about making sure our neighborhoods are not left behind in the next generation of Cleveland's economic development. We're advocating for the opportunity zone inclusion because these twos have helped shape development in other parts of our city, and we believe that the Southeast Side deserves the same opportunity to compete. And from your perspective, I kind of gave at the top of the interview kind of like the by the book definition of what opportunity zones are, but for you and for your perspective, what are opportunity zones and why do they matter? I think that one of the biggest things about opportunity zones and why do they matter, is because it encourages private investment in our communities. We have the opportunity to have private investors come in. Equity investors, a whole sleuth of various different types of investors who will get assistance and help for their investments in our neighborhood by doubling and tripling their investment, and the rate of return on their investment is more or less guaranteed because this is an opportunity zone, so it gives them a sure. Return on their investments. And why was it important for you to bring this issue to Cleveland City Council publicly? Well? Because I wanted people to understand that this is a bigger than what one project can be about a one organization. This is about the future positioning of our neighborhoods for the next ten years. And I also wanted to publicly acknowledge the work of our CDC throughout and what they're doing here in the southeast and making sure that this effort is seen as a collaborative, strategic, strategic and aligned with the broader growth of Cleveland. So as we see our city is growing economically, this works in a collaborative effort and a strategic effort to align us so that we are moving along with the City of Cleveland's growth at the same time we see development in other communities. We're talking about Cleveland City Councilman Joe Jones, and we're talking about his efforts with opportunity zones in Ward one and trying to make sure that that tool is available to the community that he represents. So what happens to neighborhoods when they are left out of tools like this, Well, you. Know when we see that, we can see that here in the city of Cleveland. You can see two Clevelands. You see a part of Cleveland where we have economic development flourishing and little little Italy university circles mid town. But what happens to neighborhoods that are left out? You won't see that kind of investment. You won't see the kind of investment that you've seen in Tremont, you won't see the kind of investment that you've seen on the west side of the city of Cleveland. And what really happens to those communities. That are left out? They can't compete and the same structural advantages that other neighborhoods have as relates to opportunity zones, investment becomes harder to attract that kind of investment, and equity investors and people who want to park their money. Uh, these are the kind of investors we want to attract. But when we don't have this too, development moves a whole lot slower. Businesses struggle and they're sluggish, and these tools that the government has put in place comes to offer these incentives so that we can grow as a neighborhood. And when we don't have these incentives in place, you will see some parts of the city of Cleveland is property stricken, and other parts of the City of Cleveland that have these twos are growing by leaps and bounds. So it sounds like you want to make sure that the Southeast Side is well positioned to be able to participate and to benefit. From this program. So for people who are listening and maybe not fully understand, like talk about what it means if. The Southeast Side is positioned. It is really powerful because what it actually does is it ensures that our neighborhoods are properly prepared and included in economic systems that we see that influence where investment flows. Positioning is about making sure that the Southeast Side is a part of the conversation. When developers, investors, and institutions are looking at Cleveland's future, we want them to also see that there can be an investment in our communities as well. And this is what it's really fundamentally all about. And with that being said, I mean, what kind of projects could become more realistic if your war in the southeast side is properly positioned for this, Oh, listen, is endless almost you're talking about mixed use developments can happen. We can bring in new housing projects in our neighborhood. We can revitalize our commercial corridor or Long Lee Road, Harvard Miles and Kinsman Road, and small business expansion will happen by leaps and bound and that's what helps to create jobs, the redevelopment of these vacant buildings throughout our community. As you look throughout our entire neighborhood, you see a lot of vacancy. And this will no longer be the case because now investors are going to to snap up these properties and put viable businesses in place. And these community centered projects won't have to be worrying about struggling to attract. Capital because the capital will be. Here and these twos can help make those projects more feasible. We're talking with Cleveland City Councilman Joe Jones and real quick just to kind of paint a picture for people people who aren't familiar. With Ward one. Give give a little bit of an idea of the dynamics of Ward one socioeconomically, and so on. Tell people what explain to people what. Ward one is. What Ward one is is a group of a number of communities, all of them having a historic relevance significance. In the city of Cleveland. You have the Mount Pleasant community, which at one point hosted some of our leaders in both religious corridors political corridors when it comes to being doctors and heads of industry and business. A lot of our Black people came from that period of time that settled over the Mount Pleasant community. It also comprises the Leasaville Miles community. It surprises Union Miles. It also is host to the home of Lee Harvard, which has been a neighborhood that has been well kept over the decades, well manicured grass. We have some of the most educated population in the city of Cleveland. Were also boast of having more Union members in the City of Cleveland and one of the highest voting African American communities in all the city of Cleveland. In addition to. That, we border against Shaker Maple Heights, Wansville, Garfield and we're a very proud neighborhood of very proud people, a very proud community because we try to do everything that we can within our own powers to contain and keep our neighborhood strong environbrant. So with that being said, how important is private investment to the future of Ward One? It's extremely important. It's our future. Public funding alone cannot carry the entire burden of redevelopment. We need responsible private investment working alongside community development efforts to create sustainable growth jobs. I will see an opportunity for future generations. And we're talking with Cleveland City Council and Joe Jones And when you first started digging into this issue, what did you learn by looking at where opportunity zone investment has already happened in the city of Cleveland. Well, when you. Start looking at it, you can take a look at the southeast side, and you can look at all the city of Cleveland. And I learned that the communities that were strategic positioned benefited from long term investment. This was a sense of momentum for those neighborhoods and those communities. It also reinforced how important these twos are in modern economic development and why we need to make sure that the southeast side is not overlooked again. And when we look at that, we saw that in in twenty seventeen, those empowerment zones, you know, moved from over from where we were over into Warrensville, and we were saying, why is it that there is no opportunity zones on the east side of the city of Cleveland, and it's predominantly all American African American communities, and it has not happened. So when you compare and contrasts, you don't want those opportunity zones to wind up somewhere else when they can be stayed here in the city of Cleveland, benefiting communities that certainly check off on every single criteria, and the south east side text off on every criteria. So we're some neighborhoods structurally positioned while others were left behind. I always say that they whenever you have the political system in place, you know, you have to look at it and hope that that was fear that some of the communities had better position and visibility within the development ecosystem. But this effort is about making sure our neighborhoods are also positioned to position to participate in the future growth and opportunity. So when we're starting to look at where one neighborhood and where the other ones at, we know that this neighborhood is structurally sound and strong. We're closest to some of the highways, some of our major highways. We've got major arteries like Kinsman Avenue, Lee Road, and Miles that connects into Shaker Heights, Maple Heights, Garfield, Warrensville. So we're really blessed to be around thriving neighborhoods and cities all around us. And this is the opening corridor to welcome others from other neighborhoods that come into the City of Cleveland. We're talking with Cleveland City Council and Joe Jones, And earlier you mentioned the CDCs. You mentioned the CDCs in your area. Talk a little bit about the role of your CDCs that are in your ward. Well, we have the Harvard Community Service Center and Newpoint Development Corporation, and they have been doing important work in advocating for our neighborhoods and thinking long term about economic growth. They've been collaborative, strategic, and they have been committed to making sure that our community the Southeast Side has a voice in all of these conversations. And I know also that with this effort, this isn't just an effort that people have been engaging with the City of Cleveland. I know folks that are working on this effort have also been engaging with elected officials in Columbus and in Washington, d C as well, and policymakers in general. For people who don't understand or don't see behind the curtain of this, tell people why you would engage with Columbus in Washington, d C on this. Effort, Well, you know that's very important because economic to development today is a relationship piece. You have to develop these relationships which are partners in Columbus and Washington d C. You have to build this visibility and this relationship with the people and their agencies and institutions connected to investment and economic policy. It is so important because what we want the Southeast Side is on the radar at every level. We want to send a strong. Message that this is a community where economic development or is open wide open. We are asking for as well as we want to be able to set this as the best location to invest in the nation. And in order to do that, you have to develop these relationships. You have to position your neighborhood and you have to talk about how important it is and how you as an investor will get a return on your investment. So developing these relationships is to put the Southeast side on the radar screen on every single level, a multifaceted approach. We're talking ab with Cleveland City Council and Joe Jones and in this effort, how important is alignment between City Hall, Cleveland City Council CDCs and stakeholders. Oh listen, it's critical. I mean you really have to. It is probably the most critical relationship because you want everyone to also be on the same page. These kinds of initiatives were best when everyone is moving together with a shared vision. Collaboration between these bodies increased credibility, strengthens our advocacy and improves a likelihood of long term success. And what would support from the Big administration mean for this s effort? It was sent a strong signal that the City of Cleveland believes in every neighborhood deserves access to economic opportunity and investment toos. It would also show unity around the future and the growth, and so when we're talking about how our city moves forward, it also shows that the city stands behind all of his community and not willing to lead, not one left behind. So this is very It sends that strong signal, and I'm appreciative that we have a good mayor, Mary Justin bib has done a great job in his first four years. And we're looking for all of those investments. That five hundred and eleven million dollars and all of that that's supposed to hit the streets hit the streets soon in various different other projects. They have not yet been realized in the city of Cleveland. But yes, this here will signal that the Cleveland believes in every single neighborhood. So I've known you for a little bit now, and I. Know how much your community and how much your award, how much your neighborhoods. Mean to you. So talk a little bit about what this effort means to you personally. Well, it puts us on the map. It means a lot because I was born raised in this neighborhood and I have rode my big wheels, bicycles, my bicycles. I've even you know, got through the period of time where I had a motorcycle and be running my motorcycle up and down the street. But I wasn't the kind of person that you see today with the kids. They're just rolling up and making noise. I would actually only ride on the street to get to the parks to enjoy Career Park, you know, because it was such a huge park and it had a trail. And so I really fundamentally enjoy my youth walking the streets of Lee Harvard severe Miles Kinsman area. In addition to then getting married and raising my family and having to be blessed to marry my wife of twenty three years, and you know, we have two kids. And my son was blessed with getting his master's degree magnum cumlatte at Ohio State's Business College, and he's doing quite well. He now has surpassed his old man and he's at six figures and so he's twenty three years. Old and it's really impressive. And then my daughter, she is at Michigan State University and she's taking up public policy and she's never been under anything other than honor row and we just went down there and she had some personal times in sports. So she's in track and field, and we're so proud of her and her efforts. Her degree would be in public policy, and then she'll go on to law school. So I'm committed and dedicated to my neighborhood. And I graduated from Aviation High School, but I also attended john Na Kennedy, which you know, our neighborhood is home of the fighting Eagles. So I'm planted here. I'm born here, I'm bred here, I've raised my family here, and this neighborhood means the world to me. I love having the opportunity to serve some great citizens, especially our senior citizens. It is an honor and a privilege to have the opportunity to serve as their elected official. And every day I get up, I think about how well can I serve these people. We're talking with Cleveland City councilmen Joe Jones, and we're getting ready to wind down here. A couple more questions, one on. This particular effort, the opportunities on effort. What is your final message to Clevelanders who are listening to the show. Put us on the map. If you say that our communities are communities that you want to see prosper and grow you want to see investments in the Africa and neighborhoods in the communities. You want to decrease crime in our neighborhoods, then invest in our neighborhood. Our community has always been one of the strongest homeowners and all of the entire city of Cleveland for quite some time, and we're still here. We need for investments to happen in our community. So the message will go straight out, loud and clear. We're open for business, We're open for assistance, We're open for help. We need all the twos we can get. We're thankful for our city, our mayor. We're even thankful for our regional government, our county government, Chris Ronane. So what we're saying is invest in us. We over the years have invested in keeping our homes up. We've invested ourselves and allowed for our families to grow into the city, to go to the educational systems. We have went to the educational campuses. We have been a neighborhood that has participated and we're continuing to participate. So now we're saying, it's our turn. It's our turn that you put us on the map. It is your commitment, it is your dedication that would help us prosper as a people in a community. So all hands on deck would be what I would ask for in order to keep the Southeast side strong. If the southeast side of the city goes, then all of the East Side will now be gone. So we must do everything we. Can to draw the lines in the sad and say this neighborhood and these people are our people, and we'll want to invest in our people. That would be the message put us on the map. And while we're of course talking about the Southeast side, I can't let you go without giving you an opportunity to brag a little bit about the. One of the developments that you have right now. I'm fascinated by this what you all are doing with I believe the old JFK site. Talk a little bit about what's going on there and what the plans are and what you all. Are are working on doing. Listen, this is probably a multimillion dollar job, but just the subject that we're talking about in terms of opportunity zones. As we look at the finances of a multi one hundred million dollar plus development here, we know that in order to make the economics work, if we have those apartment zones and opportunity zones right here and Lee and Harbard. For this particular project, it would help us close that thirty million dollar gal at this space and time, we're talking about doing a development at the level of a Pine Crest. The people who develop Pine Crest will be part of the developers here at this site. So we're talking about retail, We're talking about affordable housing. We're talking about market rate housing, senior citizen colleges and housing. We're talking about bringing in another market to be over here on the east side of the city of Cleveland. We're looking at putting together a library at this site location, brand new library over here at this space. We are looking at bringing a medical facility. We're in discussions now with bringing in a training medical facility to be over on the site, which is about a thirty thousand square foot space or more. It is one of a kind training development and the people that it is training as African Americans to be dentists, to be dentist assistants, to do everything there is in the dental field in terms of all the newer technologies, learning how they are. I mean, this would be a great boon for our young people who live in all the city of Cleveland as a place where they can get the ability and the skills to go right into the d industry. And then we have which is important, is looking at bringing a metro health back to our area where we can help some of our folks who are in need, who need assistance in help medically speaking. Having that kind of a facility here, having senior citizen housings, something that supports our senior citizens that they can stay in the neighborhood longer versus going to anywhere else will be absolutely. A flawless move at this site location. And and then having it to be a place where people can come, uh, they can work and they can play, and then they have housing. It's going to be really nice. So our hope is is is a same type of model that's happening at Pinecrest we'll have. Here in our community. And I'm sorry I was so long winded with it. I could keep I could keep going. That's good stuff, man, I mean, that's that's powerful, especially in a in an African American neighborhood. To have something like that, that's that's some powerful stuff, man. And then it wouldn't it wouldn't wouldn't have not been able to be possible if it wasn't. Also for the vision, because it and this is where most of it comes from. The vision and the promise of Mayor Justin Bieb his promise to the Southeast side that he wants to see it developed, that he wants to see Cranes and Lee and Harvard would this would do that. So him, he started this project and this this will be one of those situations where you will have Cranes helping to develop and put it this particular structure into play. And so we have to give credit with credits due. And I'm thankful that we have a mayor who sees vision and understands the significance of investing in the southeast side of the City of Cleveland. And I'm glad that that his home was housed in the southeast side of City of Cleveland. We've a city. Councilman, Joe Jones. Thank you so much. Always a pleasure to spend time with you. I have a soft spot in my heart for your neighborhood. I spent a little bit of a time in there. I was I did some of the announcing for some of the JFK football games for a couple of years. Back in the day. Yeah. So, so I have a special place in my heart for your neighborhood and your community, and it's historic. It means a lot to the city of Cleveland. So thank you for coming on the show and talking about this important issue and spending time with us. Absolutely, thank you, DARBYA. And you have a super great day. And may God bless you and continue to shine a favor upon your head. And you're my my You're gonna be my radio guy. I like you better than any other radio interviewer, So I appreciate you. Rather you have a super great day. All right, stay tuned. We'll be right back with you. Time with Row here. Yo, what's up bringing the noise? Right here? Chuck the Republic Enemy number one? You are tuning the Outlaws radio show. Hey, y'all, this is social media influencer Ali Michelle, and I want you to check out my podcast, pillow Talk with Ali Michelle. And no, not that kind of pillow talk. We keep it class to you over here. We talk about issues that matter to you. 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I talked about this last time I was on, but I just had to tell you guys. So the meet and greet VIP passes have officially been sold out out of every concert that they do have. And let's see it is total cost is twenty five hundred per ticket to meet him. Meet and greet, and the girls are acting up in the comments section talking about this. They suffered twenty five hundred blah blah blah. I don't even need to say because y'all can feel in those lines already know they acting up. Oh my goodness, that's crazy. Like it is so crazy, and I have not bought my tickets yet. Could you imagine there's some dude who who's girl asked him to spend the twenty five hundred dollars for her to meet Chris Well. Uh yeah, no no, because that's like a slap in the face. I ain't even. That's like a slap in the face because I couldn't. I can't even. I don't. I don't see myself. But then again, it'd be like, you know, you know pay you know, we could just we could just go to the concert. I don't know about the meet and greet part, because although that would be cool, but you know, it's. A lot of money, man, Yeah, that's a lot of money. I don't like, I shouldn't say this, that's like trouble. I just played like this concert tickets have gotten pretty expensive these days, and I think like it's it's pricing people out, you know what I'm saying, Like, yeah, I remember complaining when I was talking to this girl at the time and she wanted to go see jay Z and them tickets was one hundred dollars and I. Was like a hundred dollars. This was like, oh man, this was years ago, and I was like, you know, a hundred dollars to see jay Z. And now you're talking about twenty five hundred for a meet and greet. That's just for the meet and greet. Now the seats, that's yes. So even in the nose bleeds, even in the nose bleeds, they're. Like uh two. But if you go to. A different state other than Ohio, if you go to a state other than Ohio, they are lower. So I am potentially you know, Ohio's higher, Ohio is higher. Ain't that the craziest part? I know? In Colorado just for their nosebleeds, their nose bleeds are between eighty two eighty we'll say eighty ninety six dollars ish, And that's actually fairly low now these days, I guess, But I guess I've always wanted to go to Colorado. I mean, he is probably going to sell out the stadium in Cleveland. So I don't even know if I even would want to face that. I'm gonna be honest with you because sixty tho you know, I mean, I have not checked back for the tickets in Cleveland in a week, so I don't know. I know there were still tickets available, but I can't imagine. I mean, grow, Look, we are from Cleveland, so we know how folks get to act in you know, and that's a big, a really huge concert. So you know, first and foremost people nine times out of ten are going to be buying alcohol beverages, and so that I don't that's the only thing that would make. At any concert in any in any venue. Yeah, I'm talking about in Cleveland. But it ain't just that's like, how's it going to be in Detroit or in some of these other some of these other major cities, Like you're gonna have that dynamic with any major you. Feel like they're gonna do you know, no little pop how in Colorado. That's probably why the tickets are because ain't nobody going to see them. In Colorado exactly. So I'll be okay with that. You know, I'm gonna get my homegirl we're gonna. Go by the time you get the tick is because you know it ain't no spirit no more. So that's okay. I didn't like spirit anyway. Last time when I went to lady, they was not nice to me. You know, I'm good on spirit. Next, so next is let's talk about so I actually have two more things. So the other thing is let me pull this up my my face. I d don't like me, guys, hold on my phone, locked on me. Okay, So there is something that happened here in Ohio. What city did you say? That was Darby? Oh? Well, the where the place was in Brooklyn, which is a suburb of Cleveland. People who don't know, Yeah, so it was in a suburb of Cleveland. There was which by. The way, the description of this, uh story is a little twisted, so it is not what it says. So originally they said that it was for youth a youth football game, flag football game. The whole story is not easy to follow, just in general, just for fighting. No, it's not easy to follow. It is not easy to follow. So I will give this. So I ran across the page of the gentleman who is friends with the other one of the other gentlemen. So anyway, so there was a situation that happened where one adult team, one male adult team against another male adult team. They were playing, uh, flag football, and they they're in the older ages, you know, some of them gray hair, you know ish anyways, so that that gives you an idea. So they're playing flag football. Allegedly what happened was is that the one team they lost and they did not like that. They did not like to be the sore loser. Now this is just the back the background of the story. So one's name one gentleman. He there's an ice he owns an ice cream shop. And the gentleman I don't know, Darby. Can I say their names? Or should I just not say their names? Uh? It's public? So okay, okay, So allegedly. Allegedly, that's why I say allegedly, So I wanted to make sure. So the owner of an ice cream shop called the Bulldog ice Cream Shop, his name is Tim Tim Rubble. If I said his name correctly, that's r U. B. L E. He owns an ice cream shop, and he was playing on the team that did lose. Allegedly, he did not like the fact that he lost. So he made threats to the opposing team and he said, Okay, I got something for you. Don't worry, I'm gonna be back. So he made a phone call allegedly and called his nineteen year old son, which is Timothy Rubble. So Timothy shows up and it says that he hit a one of the gentlemen from the opposing team with his car. So it's that's Brian Williams who was hit by the car. Brian Williams was seriously injured after the altercation broke out following the following the football game. So he was trying to leave the area after helping de escalate and dispute that that dispute that happened when the vehicle that was being driven by Timothy entered the park area and struck him Brian Williams. He now currently suffers injuries and is currently in the ICU with head trauma and multiple other injuries. Now this is all allegedly again, and what a lot of people are It's spreading everywhere. Flyers picture is all over everywhere. They're talking about it on the news stations, et cetera. And they're talking about boycotting this ice cream shop. Honestly, that is. A crazy story to me because it should have never gotten to that. It should have never gotten to that point. I don't understand, Like we were talking about it for the show, like it was so confusing to like for it to escalate that quickly like that. You know, if all of that is proven to be true, that everything just laid out, then that you're talking about premeditated, Like that's like you intentionally called your son allegedly for him to come run somebody over. Yep, And well the boy one of the charges that he is not looking at is not premeditated, not attempted, not premeditated. Yeah, they got to prove it, so like you got to see more more info. So it's still early. That's like that's the thing when a lot of times charges that happen to people be freaking out, like if they see more evidence, like they'll add more charges later. You know what I mean. So so that's not really a big of a deal. Well, I hope if it is true, you know, you know, the justice is served. Yeah, absolutely, but you. Know, prayers to the gentleman in the hospital. Yep. Next, oh, next, you guys, this is insane, do you guys remember six years ago what we went through. Do you remember everything shut down? Okay, yes, like everything, Oh my gosh, don't want to relive it. But what we are looking at is maybe a potential. So at least twenty three passengers were exposed to a deadly how do I say this Hanta. Virus Anta virus? Yeah, the virus out break already left the ship. They left the ship anyway and returned to different countries anyway, including the US, before they were even informed. Now one of. Those passengers has already tested positive after returning home, raising the concerns about how far this situation could spread. Investigators have they believed that the outbreak may have already started after a couple allegedly came into contact with infected rodents during a stop before boarding the ship. Both individuals, yes, both individuals have passed away since oh my goodness, along with at least one other passenger, while several more remained sick on board. What's making this even more concerning is that contact tracing reportedly didn't begin until days after the passengers had already scattered worldwide, with some only being notified recently. Health officials say that the HANSA virus is not easily transmitted like COVID, but it can spread through close contact in certain cases, and the delayed response has people questioning whether the situation was handled too late. Now authorities are racing to track down everyone who may have been exposed, while the ship continues its journey with the sick passengers still on board. So first of all, that means, you know, you gotta uh can't be kissing everybody, can't be doing the hanky panky with everybody if it comes with cold, if it transmits through close contact, that's number one. Number two, how in the world have we not figured out like no like contact racing and nothing like what do we do? We ain't forget this out yet, m M. And the crazy thing is this has actually been around for years, centuries years, this has been in existence, and there's no cure, there's no they. Hey man, see what sucks about this is other than like, I don't even want to know how they came in contact with the mouse droppings. But I've always like wanted to go on a cruise, but I keep hearing stuff that makes me very going on a cruise. Just in general. You know what I was gonna take my son for his sixteenth birthday. That is absolutely not happening. Clearly, clearly, that is insane, Like what the heck man, why are y'all playing with mouse poop? Like what is going on? So first it was the bat, now it's the mouse. I just don't understand anymore. And listen, I'm like sitting here talking to my coworkers about this earlier and I'm like, how do you guys feel about this? And now they were like, I'm I would love it. I'm like, what do you mean. That means I can't come to work like I need my money. They were like, actually, we were here all through the pandemic through COVID. I'm like, oh, okay, well then cool, Like you know, but I can't. I can't. Nah, I don't want to go through that again. And it sounds like it might be worse, and you know, I'm not going through that again. It was hard. People would lose their I think people would lose their freaking minds, like because people lost their minds during COVID, Like we ain't over that, yeah, you know what I mean, Like it's because it's just not it wasn't. It ain't human nature for us to be all like separated and all of that. You know what I mean. People know what I'm saying. People ain't been the same set. Well, no, the world has not been the same sense at all, not at all. But you know what a lot of people now they're like, you know, we joke around, especially you know humans, we naturally we tend to joke around in serious matters like this, and it's not to be like inconsiderate or yeah whatever. It's like, well, what else are we gonna do in this moment? Like, you know, so there's like a lot of people that are joking around online and they're like, well, let me learn these. TikTok dances before we have a worldwide shut. Down again, because you know, I'm like, let me order some exercise and machines and a bunch of toilet paper and water. That's what it's, you know, like before they decide to shut everything down again, and yeah, I'm more prepared this time, right. All right, I don't know how to follow you. You can follow me on Instagram at Real Robin O'Malley, Facebook Robin O'Malley, and I guess TikTok also Real Robin O'Malley. You can follow me at bid King been every where it has d T H E K I N G p I N. One more time. I want to send a special shout out to Counselman Joe Jones. We're coming on the show. Really appreciate it. We are out of here. We'll see you next time. 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