This is the FCB podcast network. Great when they try jog boot Chays dot Dog. We don't listen to y'alls the Outdog. We don't listen to y'alls to the Outdog. Make a scream out down like a sound ug because the roogets in the clown like a ball. Tuned into the church from the outdoor. Tune into the church from the outlog. Welcome to a special edition of The Outlaws. This is Dark. You'll keeping vimorrow alongside Robin Onmalley, Dante bride knot in today. Don't forget too. Like us on Facebook at facebook dot com, slash the Outlaws Radio, follow us on Twitter and Instagram at the Outlaws or Radio. It's a special edition of the show because once again we have the legendary Crazy Bone on the show. This week. Oh man, it was We were just finished table. It was an amazing interview. We talked about all hosts of issues, all kinds of things they're having. The street It's ninety nine where where they grew up being renamed after Bone, Thugs and Harmony, which is amazing and incredible thing, and we're going to talk about that as well, But just the interview in general was just it was just amazing. Robin, real quick, give your thoughts on on on that interview. You know what it's if that one this interview was. It was amazing. It was powerful, Like I felt just the emotions just rolling over me. You know, he is inspiring. You know Bone Thugs is inspiring there the whole group. Just you wait until I just can't wait till everybody here's this interview, like they'll get what I'm saying. Yeah, absolutely, absolutely incredible, amazing stuff man. And he was so generous and gracious with his time. And he's always been a real humbling down the earth dude. And and uh, you know, from from being fans of Bone Man to really be able to interact and talk to him and stuff like that, to talk to Crazy Bone, it was it's really dope. So we are not going to waste any more time. We're going to get to part one of our interview right now. All right, we have a very special guest on the show today. He's been on this show before. He is a legend. It's an honor that he's back on from the legendary Bone Thugs and harmony Crazy Bone walking back. How are you doing, sir? Oh good bro how you doing. I'm good. I'm good. So there's a lot of things to discuss, a lot of stuff going on. The first thing we got to talk about is the news just broke that the city of Cleveland is going to be renaming East ninety nine after Bone Thugs and Harmony. So, first of all, talk about how that makes you feel? Man? How what what was the what's the what's the emotion of knowing that, you know, that kind of dedication that's gonna last forever that the city is given to y'all. Man, you know, it's it's it's a real uh, it's a real um humbling uh experience. You know. To know this is you know, from where we came from. This is a you know, from this street going to a street to where we didn't think we was gonna make it off of you know, we didn't think we was gonna make it off at ninety nine. You know what I'm saying, because of all the stuff we used to be into so forth that to do a full circle and not thinking we were gonna make it to having the street named after us, that it's unexplainable. The fund is, you know, like just feeling this pricess. Bro. It's just like it's it's it's truly a blessing, you know that we were able to like um, basically turn all that negativity into into this definitely a blessed feeling. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. You know I remember when when Steve Harvey was also from Glenville, when they renamed the street after him, you know, he cried on on on national television. I think a lot of people may not know, especially if you're not from Cleveland. You know, Cleveland today is a lot different than it was back then. Like the city's been through a whole lot, and you came up around that era, you know what I mean. Like I'm old enough to remember the tail end of the crack area. Like if you come, you came up around that are man, it was it was tough man. So just talk a little bit about that. Talk a little bit about uh, like you just said, going from remembering what it was like on those streets to now, you know, having that street named after him. Yeah, man, you know, because you know it was it was it was rough man. You know, like were we you know, we were like everybody else in the inner city at that you know, we were very poor. You know, we um and we was. We had to grow up very fast. You know what I'm said, I was. I was out on my own when I was sixteen years old, you know, so it was like we were um man, it was that whole that whole scene was crazy. I remember us, you know, trying to trying to when the whole crack thing, crack epidemic came into place, us trying to do that as well, but to keep it one hundred. We wasn't even really good at it. We just we just we just really did it basically just to sustain day to day because our main thing was always music. But you know, like we was in the streets, like we was homeless, like so we had to do we had to do to survive. But our main thing was music. We was never on one thing about us. We was we was I mean any I mean, you can't control what goals, those goals on in the street, but our mind state was to try to stay as far as away from it being in it as possible, knowing that we have to be in it, meaning let's try to focus more on music and put more of our energy into music than what we're doing on the streets. And I think that's what you know, Like Bonnie ballanced it out for us and saved us and put us about of there because we started to take music much more serious than we did the streets. We're talking with crazy Bone, a legendary crazy ba Ball doesn't harm me, Robin. I know you got a question, go right here. Um, So my question is what was it like growing up on East ninety nine back then? Like for you, oh man, it was it was. It was wild. We had we hit we had some uh, we had some wild nights. I remember one of my one of my homies, Tombstone, who was from who was from uh, he was originally from Inglewood, California. I mean one day he came down street and he was like, man, it looked like Compton out here. Yeah we we and we had never been to Compton, but he was like, bro, it's it looked crazy out here. Like so it was like we was like we was into any every thing you could think of. If it made this money, we was doing it, you know what I'm saying. Like I would I would say, we was doing dudes. You did not want to like run into on the streets and we needed something that like really it was it was des and I hate like talking about it now because like I don't like like glorifying the way we had to scratch and scrape to get by. But that was just our mentality. It was like, we're homeless. We here now on the streets. We gotta live. And those were some very dark days, like literally dark days, you know what I'm saying. And um like I said to be able to like to come out of those days, man, And you know I remember like just like like all kind of stuff happening on ninety nine, the daty we the data. We actually shot our video the day we brought Easy out here to shoot our video. I don't know if y'all remember, but the video was shot up and six people got shot at the video shoot wow on Saint Clair. I don't know what made w Z a K get on the air and say that Easy was gonna be on Saint Clair shooting the video. But that was not the right thing to do at the time, like because the entire city of Cleveland was on St. Clair that day, and I'm like, this is not going to end well, Like it's not going to end well, and it didn't, you know, Like so just like it's it's it's a lot of good and bad memories over there, you know what I say. But like I said, I'm just glad we was able to make it about it there, just make something positive and now, you know, and now people are looking at us to a different light instead of you know again, you know right, you know, Um, it's I mean, y'all have an amazing story and you know, Cleveland shows y'all a lot of love, like Cleveland loves Bone. Talk about what that's like, man, talk about what it's like to get that love from the city. And it's been pretty you know, pretty consistent from the moment that y'all came out, Like the city has been rocking with y'all. Yeah, man, it's it's it's definitely been consistent, man, you know, and I um, you know, I gotta give hats off to the city, man, because like I hear all the time, you know, you you hear all the time, you know, artists talking about you know what, man, you know, they hate you the most in your own city, that hate you the most when you come from I mean, we've experienced some hate, but that's that's a where you go. But overall, the city has stood behind us like like people tell me their stories, like people were like like people like man, when when when when y'all came out a where I went and I told people I was from Cleveland, they me love just because of y'all. You know what I'm saying. Yeah, I told him I didn't even know y'all. You know what I'm saying. So it was just like like the love that the city had and consistently has, man, it's it's it's impressive to me. That's why, you know, That's why I was impaled to come back and like always had this plan, but it was it really energized me when I seen the amount of love that the city still have for us. Man and night. You know, um, they deserve some of that love back in return for sure. Definitely. Man, Man, that's what's upping and and you know, going through like when you're talking about the things that y'all went through and all of that. To have the street named after you, what do you think, uh, that can how do you think that can serve as an inspiration for maybe people who are in ninety nine, for Saint Clair right now, who are growing up in that right now? You know what I mean? Man? You know, yeah, you know, because I see the dudes is out there down you know what I'm saying. You know, those dudes they reel out there, you know what I'm saying. So I'm like, you know, um, but I want those dudes to know, you know what I'm saying, Like, don't you know, I know we in this, you know, we all born into this situation and together or whatnot. You know what I'm saying. And it's a it's a tricky place. But like we can't let you can't let your surroundings in your environments automatically doom you. You know, like you know when you I hear a lot of people in their music saying, well you I was forced to do this. I'm a product of my environment. But you don't have to be because we all have one of these a mind, and we are the only one that can control that mind. Nobody else. We can let other people do it, but we have the power to cut all that off and be like, you know what, I'm not gonna go this route everybody else is going. I'm gonna go and do this even though I may have to go give me a job, I may have to do it the right way for a while. This is not about to take me under You're like, like, like the way I look at things now, Like had I had this knowledge and somebody telling meters, I would have probably listened, you know what I'm saying, because it's like, wasn't nobody telling us these things? But I'm telling people like, you know, just because you're in the hood or you're in the bast situation, that's not the end of the world. Miracles happen every day. People's success stories in dreams come true every day. They're not just dreams, you know what I'm saying, Like they can become reality if you put your mind to it and you and you properly playing for you know what I'm saying. So that's what I would tell the younger people. Yeah. Absolutely, And you know, it's it's real interesting. I'm a I'm a fan like like most people in Cleveland. I'm a both thugs man. I'm gonna both thugs man forever. And you know, it's it's interesting man, when when people really listen to your music and go through your catalog for real, Um, you know, it's not just of course the songs that everybody knows and the gangs of songs and all of that, but y'all have a lot of really conscious music as well. Was that something that was that something that y'all set out to do intentionally to speak to some of those issues, whether it was like Crossroads or I tried, or you know what I mean, Like, was it something that y'all set out to do intentionally or was it just speaking on y'all reality and how y'all felt about that whatever subject that was at the time. I mean, at first it was just speaking on our reality. I'm not gonna lie and say we came out trying to give messages to people, and it was just the life we lived. We knew what kind of everything we went through to get to where we were, So we were like, if we can help anybody, like if we could lead by experience and like, you know what I'm saying, Like people can look at us and be like, you know what I'm saying, I want to be as successful as they were, you know what I'm saying, And you know that that's that's that's a wonderful thing. But I can't say that we actually planned now. I think we were just basically speaking from our experience and our emotions and once we started realizing the effect that we had on people, I think that's when we, at least I started taking it more seriously, realizing the platform that we had and realizing, you know, we don't have to talk about all negative stuff all the time. We can tell these people our experiences in a way to have them think twice about following our steps, you know. Like so like it all kind of gradually just came along as we went. Yeah, because you know, one song I'm thinking about off the top of my head and this topic is get up and get it. I mean, that's that was you know, one of those type of songs where you know, you don't see a ton of artists, a ton of ton of rappers doing that type of music now, And when you go back and listen to it, it is it was clear that, you know, y'all were saying, y'all had something to say. You weren't just rapping to be rapping. You had to say. Do you think that was a difference in your music now versus some of the stuff you see today? Oh yeah, I mean, I mean, you know, I mean it's all levels, man, you know, because when we came out, when we came out, like if you noticed our first EP, people don't have come up in the Eternal. I don't think we were saying nothing positive. We were kicking everybody's ass and taking am I'm saying we was. We was because that's because we was fresh out there, you know, we was. We was fresh out the trenches, fresh off or ninety nine, right, So that was our We was mad. We was militantly was mad. We was like all those emotions wrapped up in once. So so we didn't have nothing positive to say. We was like the world at that time, you know what I'm saying. So, but as we you know, when we got to Are the War and those other later albums, things started to calm down for us. So we started to see what we had and who we were and where we were going and what we had done. And then we you know, everything I started to come together after that, and you know, we just started making making music like you know, I just got a feeling like, you know, we're supposed to be doing more. Like people, all these people love us like it's a it's it's a crazy unconditional love too. So we gotta we gotta give these people more than just shoot them up. Bang bang, types. You know what I'm saying. Yeah, absolutely more with Crazy Ball when we come back here on the Outlaws, real talk, real conversations. We got the heat. This is the y'all Laws Radio show. Welcome back, Welcome back. You're listening to the Outlaws. Now let's get two Part two of our interview with Crazy Ball Robin. First, Um, I'd like to say I am truly inspired. The more I hear about your story, it's wow. Just that's amazing. Um. But my question is what made Bone Thugs decide to start the group? Well, we um Man, we've been together since like junior high school. We are we um Well. I was going to Franklin d Rooseville fdr Um and Um Lazy Bone and Flesh and Bone. They got transferred there during the middle of the school year, and there was another guy from Cleveland named Kate shield Um and we were in junior high school. I used to wrap with just dude, Kate Child in the in the hallways, and we used to sit in class like when we were supposed to be doing work, like in the back of the class rapping, like having a little ciphers. And so one day Lazy Bone when he got transferred to the school he came. I had home Economics with Lazy Bone and I had at English class with Fleshing Bone, and I didn't know they were brothers at all. So so when I when I would be in my home economous class with the dude k Shield and we were wrapping lazy Bone, Lazy Bone would do the human beatbox. He could do the beatbox, so like he was he was supplied to beat for us, but we was doing our little ciphers. And when I was in English class, Fleshing Bone was in the same class with us, and like you know, like um, he would he did the beatbox school. And so I got the bright idea one day I was gonna have these two dudes battled each other in beatboxes because I'm like, Yo, this dude is dope. He dope. I need all the battle. So I set the whole battle up and I brought him, brought them both to the lunch period and they was like, man, that's my brother. I was like what he was like, Yeah, this is my left flesh was like, yeah, this is my little brother. I was like, man, y'all, don't look nothing to like you know what I'm saying. Don't like house your brothers and he like um so, so from that day on, we just started rapping and doing ciphers, and next thing, you know, we formed a group called the band Aid Boys. It was it was me, Lazy Bone, Flesh and Bone and Kate Shield and we used to walk around school with bandaids up under our eyes, way before Nellie, years before Nellie, years before Nellie come out. You know what I'm saying. We used to walk around with bandaids and and we should enter all the talent shows. And then anyway after after high school, you know, like we stuck with it, you know, but we had changed the name. We changed the name from U Bandaid Boys, and it was just me and Lazy everybody else they went their separate ways, Flesh that went to school and it was just crazy. It was just crazy and Lazy. But our names wasn't Bone yet. We was called we were bandaid Boys. I was anti Lazy Bone with Steve b and Um and uh Man, we we we decided to change the name to Bone Enterprise. And that's when we came up with the names with the Bone names. And I was like, I'm gonna be a crazy Bone and Lazy was like I'm gonna be Lazybone because Lazy Bones's name was Busy Bone at first, and he changed Yeah, yeah, because because because Lazy thought of the Bone Enterprise concept. He was like, let's be Bone Enterprise. We all, you know, we both got bone names. I was like, Okay, I'm gonna be Crazy Bone. He was busy Bone. He was like, all right, I'm gonna be lazy Bone because around was crazy. So it was just crazy and lazy at first. The foundation, you know what I'm saying, we was we was going around Cleveland entering talent shows. Every time the show we could find, we was building the name for usself. It was like that dark skin and that light skin a little they can float. But you know what I'm saying that all they knew was that they called his kid and played criss cross every light skin and darkskin doll. You can think we was doing like for real. So so so we started building the bus. And you know about like our last year in junior high school, Wishbone who is flesh and lazies cousin He joined the group and then um Blessed joined the group. No no, no, no no, no, Flesh was in Flesh was in school college. He wasn't messing with us at the time. We met Busy in high school he joined the group and Flesh was the last one to come in to officially join the group. And that's how we all came together. But at the time, not even knowing when we meeting each other. Out of all this time, we're not even knowing that our grandmothers grew up together and our parents went to school together. So the first time, so the first time I introduced I took my father to introduce him to their parents, because you know, my parents were sticked. It was like, you ain't stilling nowhere. We don't know the parents. So they took me home there to meet them. And when my father saw his mother, they they you know, they called to my name and it was it was a big menu, and I was like, oh, wow, so you don't like so our our our times run deep. You know what I'm saying. It's it started from my grandmother, so my parents to us, and we didn't even know that at first. Wow. Wow, that's that's deep. That's crazy how things work out. Yeah. Crazy. Also, as many people know, uh, it's the fiftieth anniversary of hip hop this year, and I think obviously it's it's perfect time and it's very appropriate that all of this stuff is happening when you bone on the same year, So, you know, and I would I'd love to get your your perspective on this because I want people to hear it from someone of your stature, you know, of the importance of hip hop. Hip Hop had a big influence on me. It had a big influence on my life. I grew up one hundred and fortieth for Saint Clair and growing up in im poverty and parents with when I was young, all that kind of stuff, and the only place that I could go that I could hear someone talking about the reality that I was seeing every day was through hip hop. So hip hop was very important to me and was very impactful to help me get through and understanding the things that I was seeing coming up. So talk a little bit about the important to hip hop to you, how much hip hop means to you, and how much its impacted you. Man, hip hop has impacted me and like, and you know, like it's impacted me so much. Like when I remember when I first fell in love with hip hop, when I first heard my brother brought home at LLL Couj radio album, and you know, I wanted to learn. I wanted to learn you know, the song so bad that I would like I was sitting there writing down lyrical lig what he said. And as I was writing down and his lyrics, I saw the format and blueprint on how to a rhyme and I was like, oh man, I think I can write my own And from that day I wrote my own rap. I never stopped from that point on. You know what I'm saying. I tell lu J this story. You know what I'm saying. Um. I had a chance to speak with rorists one on one of my podcast shows that I have, and he was just basically breaking it down with hip hop. You know the purpose of hip hop when it started, and it was it was made for the people, by the people, to educate the people, you know, and keep those and keep those communication gaps open, I mean those those communication lines open and just inform the people you know, and like. So that's what drew me to hip hop because I was like, Wow, we got our own music, we got our own genre of music. And they was, you know, they was dissing it. You know I was. I was. I've been around to see every change in hip hop that has occurred. Blessed to be because because I'm the same age as hip hop, so I've been around to see it go from from papes, the CDs, the two injuriels, the digital to all old stages. I've seen rappers come and go that out, you know what I'm saying. We've we've been blessed. If we hit thirty years, We've seen rappers that came out when we came out, they are nowhere to be found, you know what I'm saying. So it's like, um, it's a journey man. Hip hop is. Um, it was so important to me. I didn't just I didn't just want to get into this this music just to just to be doing music, just to be you know what I'm saying. I knew I wanted to make a name. I didn't know it would be this we would be this impactful, but you know, I knew that I wanted to get in and like just just just get a message out and just have people hear what we had to say. Man, And like it's been a lifeline because if like if if this wouldn't have paint to fruition, it's really hard to say I'm not gonna sit him, but oh, I'll probably be dead or in jam no, because I think I would have gotten I think I'm much smarter that I wouldn't have kept hitting the brick wall. But I'm glad everything everything worked out the way it did. Man. And just like and like I said, you know, um, it was all because of determination and the love that I had for this, for this music, and you know the contribution that I knew that I could bring to it. So I mean, that's what it done for me, I feel. And when people ask me who my favorite artist is, meant I really can't pinpoint one artist because it's like all those artists LLL Big that he came Caress one and all of them is in me somewhere. All of them is in me. I just chose to do it projected out my way. You feel me right, right? So so I'm not gonna ask you who your number one is. Well, give me your top five. Who's the top five? Top five? I would have to say, Okay, the people that influenced me LLL. Cou J, Big Daddy, Kane, uh mc ran iq and uh Tress from Naughty by Nature who man, Yeah, flow skills ridiculous, Oh my goodness, man, and a lot of people. If y'all don't know those of you who have listened, If y'all ain't familiar with with some of those artists that he named, y'all need to go make sure you listen. Especially Fretch is completely underrated, bro. People don't know how good he is. He my most underrated. Like on my list, Tresh from Naughty by Nature, that got Flow, I know him, I know him, Prochy, that's the homie that way got flow. Yeah, he ain't no Joe Robin. Okay, So when did you decide that you wanted to pursue music as a career. Um, Like what what? Um? What was your first plan originally? Before that? Well, um, I don't think I had a first player and no, no, but but but but what it was? Though? Um? The only other thing I wanted to do besides music was played football, and I was very I was very good at it. I went out for the for the the junior high team. I was the first person recruited, recruited to make the team. But then I felt I found out your grades had to be good, and I was like, well that's it for me. And I was like whoa, you know, because man, school really didn't get alan that much back then. But um, once I found you know what I'm saying, like football was the only other thing I ever wanted to do. You know what I'm saying that I was like really really good at. But then when I you know, um, music came. Music just cramped. I was watching them. This is back in the day. I was watching the h the old Motown theme when Michael Jackson performed with his brothers and then he came out and did Billy Jean by myself. When I saw that performance. When I saw that performance, I was sitting down watching TV with my mother and I saw that performance and I turned around. It it just I was young, and it sent shoots through my body. And I turned around and looked at my mother and I said, that's what I'm gonna do when I grow up. And she was like, yeah, right, boy, okay, all right? Cool like like no and and and I and I and I fell in love with Michael Jackson. I started imitating him. It went from Michael Jackson to Prince to New Addition to l L cooj Wow. Wow, It's it's funny too because I'm I'm I'm younger than y'all, but I had a similar impact seeing seeing Michael Jackson performed. Uh this was I saw the Dangerous concert in nineteen ninety two that they had on HBO, and it was like just the level of artistry, the way that you know what I mean, the way that he was as an entertainer. It was like, Man, I want to be I want to be in that business. I want to I want to be in the same industry that makes people feel like that exactly, exactly, yeah, yeah, yeah, And and that was my motivation for sure, like seeing that and seeing how the crowd was reacting, and you know, like from that, I thought it immitating dancing in the mirror doing his steps, just acted like I had an audience in front of me, just you know what I'm saying, Like it was it was crazy. Yeah, yeah, absolutely, And so man, there's so much good stuff going on right now with you guys. Obviously, Bone is a legendary group and a lot of people there's you are on the top of a lot of people's lists as the best hip hop group ever. There's a lot of love and respect that the industry that across the country, the hip hop fans across the country show show bone and show you uh, talk about what that's like, man, to to to go from starting where you started to be a part of something that many people believe is the greatest group, the greatest hip hop group ever. Yeah. Man, that that's that's crazy, you know what I'm saying, because like just knowing um, like you say, just know where we come from. Again, Man, it's just like like we didn't, like we didn't. I mean, we knew once the first person heard us in our style that could do something for us, that we would get signed, because everybody in Cleveland was telling us all y'all broke millionaires and first persons here, y'all, they're gonna sign y'all. Like so we but but we just had to get get get in front of that person. But like we didn't, you know, like so when we didn't, we didn't think that that that it would be. Like we thought we would get in make it, you know, make an album or two, and I mean we just didn't know what was gonna happen. I mean, of course we wanted to be big, but you know, I think all of that was just like once we met Easy, it was just like we were so gone by the fact we would easy all that didn't even really kick in, you know what I'm saying him, Like I remember him um calling us one day after Tuggers Ruggish Bone had came out. We was out in LA and we was in a hotel room chilling, and he called us and he was like hearn the radio on in your room. And we turned the little clock radio and Thuggers Ruggis Bone was playing. Man were calling all our family and Cleanland, like listen to the radio out here in California, Like that's the radio. It was crazy, you know what I'm saying it, Like as the momentum started to grow, look you know, and and like we would starting to do shows and because we didn't really know how big it was like like we were until we actually started doing concerts, and like we were doing concerts, and like we would literally like get shaped by the crowd, like get chased by the crowd, like we have to run through our tourial bustles. Like I was like, Yo, this is some this is crazy, Like what's going on, you know what I'm saying. Like, and then like just to um, just to be thirty years in the game, now when feel the love amongst all our peers and our colleagues and like the fans, it's just like, um, that's priceless. Man. A lot of people ask you know, people people always ask ask me, um, do you feel like Bonus underrated? They never give you all the respect you deserve. I mean, you can say that, but like I say to them, I've never met anybody in the industry, fan or in the industry that disrespect their bones nobody. Every time I meet everybody, they always give us out flowers. They always short of respect. And I'm like, just because we're not in every single conversation about who's the greatest and who did this, and that don't mean we're not respected, Because when we're in people's presence, we're greatly respected, you know what I'm saying. And that's a wonderful thing to be thirty years stone than the game and to still have the love of respect that we have when we first came out, you know, like being the group to never really have no beef with people. We had like little beefs, but there was nothing, nothing that ever spilt out. It got crazy, you know what I'm saying. To be able to maneuver and do a song with Biggie and Tupac while they were in this heated beef and stay cool with both of them. You know that speaks volumes about who we were Because these two dudes was beef and and they both still loved there's enough to do a song with us, you know what I'm saying. So it's truly a blessing that we can stay neutral and just touch everybody, even people in the industry. That is a That is a blessing, and that you know that that to me is worth more than any platinum, plaque, Grammy award and ending they can give us, because it's what because it's how you're making people feel that really matter. The conclusion of our interview with Crazy Bones is coming up next here on The Outlaws, Fuck Up True, Welcome Back, Welcome back. You're listening to the Outlaws, make sure that you subscribe to the show on Apple, podcast, Spotify, iHeart, or wherever you get your podcast. And if you listen to the show on Apple, make sure you leave us a five star review and a comment. Is very important for the algorithm and for those of you who have already done so, thank you, oh so very much. And now let's get to the conclusion of our interview with the legendary Crazy Bone. We're talking with the legendary Crazy bon Bones does in harmony. We got a few minutes left, Robin, go right here. So you worked with Easy, Tupac and Biggie while they were like, what was that like to you? Man? Was crazy? I mean, first of all, you know, like for us to um when we first left Cleveland, our intentions was to sign with Easy Eat. We were crazy Easy E n w a fan. He was hurt. We was hurt when they split up, you know what I'm saying. Like, but and we saw everything was moving against Easy and we always rode with the under duster. We say, we wanted to go sound with Easy to help him out. You know what I'm saying this, This was our crazy thoughts in our head. We find to go sound were Easy to help him out against doctor Drin all them. So we go to We we tell everybody in Cleveland when we come back, we ain't coming back until we got Easy or the video crew with us. And that's what we did. You know what I'm saying, We can't. We came back with Easy Eat and Easy was like Easy was like the most coolest down the earth person like a personally he was like real laid back and like kind of like a sneaky type of sneaky type of wisdom like like he had because he was always thinking about something mischievous, you know what I'm saying. And he's just he was. He was Easy was a real visionary, real visionary. And as far as Biggie, you know, we came up with Big, like because we started coming up together and like we would do like all the summer jam shows together, all the radio shows together, and like anywhere we went, we would kick it with Big, you know what I'm saying. We actually presented him the award the night presented the award to him the night he was killed, you know what I'm saying. Like we we presented an award to him. Like so it was like we had a crazy relationship with the whole Junior Monfia camp, you know what I'm saying, even before we hadn't even met Pop. We didn't we didn't meet poc to after we met Biggie, you know what I'm saying. Like in somehow Pod came out and Park still wanted to rock with us though even though it was a little tensed in the beginning with with us in Tupac, everything ended up being cool. So like for us, but for us to be able to like to record these legendary with these legendary artists and like be the only group to get it in before they passed away as a blessed in itself. Man, you know what I'm saying, because like it was like it was, it was. I don't I don't know how it happened like that, but it's like it's just a blessing, Like I said, Yeah, absolutely, I mean the nuts and y'all made classics. I mean, Notorious Dogs is one of my favorite songs period of all time. It's just and every everything, Doug Love for the love of Money, all of those just class people still play to this day and they're gonna rocking for another forty fifty years. You know that's just timeless. Stop um. Now, last time, last time you came on, we talked a little bit about spread Love Foundations. So for people who may not have heard that the man I be familiar, talk a little bit about spread the Love Foundation, what it is, what made you want to start that, and what your vision is going forward. Yeah, well, spread the love. The whole idea for the whole Spread the Love thing started from a song that we had that we had bonehand, was called Spread the Love. And always always said, I love that title, and I always said, if I start a non profit, that's what I'm gonna call it. Spread the Love. So I've been wanting to do this for a while, but I had no knowledge on how to get it together and pull all the pieces together. So Ossie, who I've been known for quite some time, you know what I'm saying, started talking to her and just so happens, she got all the plugs in Cleveland, you know what I'm saying for what I'm trying to do. So we came together. So we came together, and we've been working on this since like twenty actually twenty nineteen before COVID. We we we started, we got into the beginning stages, I believe in the summer of twenty nineteen, at the end of the summer and like we were going full throughout what everything, and then COVID hit. But you know, thankfully for Zoom, you know, we were able to maintain and keep going on the way through through COVID, and you know, like be here now to where we are, but the whole spread of loves thing isn't you know? When when I when I was coming back to Cleveland and I was seeing how the neighborhood and the community was deteriorating, I'm like, yo, where it's all the people that while all the houses boarded up, like what's going on? Like it didn't look like the neighborhood no more. So I'm like, yo, this, we got to do something about this, like and I just started brainstorm and on what could be done. And then I got the idea to start this nonprofit and to try to make it because I know it's a lot of talent in Cleveland. It's a lot of times not just cleaning it, but they in Ohio. And I know that everybody that has made it from our area, whether Cleveland or Ohio, has had to leave our area to make it. Everybody had to leaven Lebron James had to lead to go get a ring first, you know what I'm saying. So, um, I was like, what can we do to make it so people can feel like they have those same opportunities here as the places they're going to. You know what I'm saying it. So I was like, you know, I want I want to build a school to first start educating people first, educating artists first, because like in my thirty years in this business, it has always been an unbalanced and in the shorter end is always the artist is always holding a shorter end of the stick always, you know what I'm saying. So I'm like, I want to do something to come back this, and the best way to combat this is to educate these aspiring artists or aspiring record executives a spine and ours or spine whatever you try to do in this music industry, educate them first so that we will be leveled when we come to the battlefield. Because I feel like, you know, I like to compare the young artists to a young to the to the young athlete. And if you look at the young athlete, they have all kinds of opportunities before they get to the pros. They have the peeweed, they got they got junior high, they got high school, that they got college, you know what I'm saying. So by the time they get to the pros, by the time they get to the pros, their condition, they knew the language, they knew what they won't they know what they after. Artists, we throw them right into the lions. We have no knowledge, we have nothing. Give us a deal, please, and they give us a deal and give us all this money and we think we're balling a couple of months ago, but oh, y'all old us two million dollars and we stuck, you know what I'm saying. So it's like it's by the only way we can get that balanced is by stepping into this educated And that's what I want to do with this Spread the Love Foundation. Man. It's just educating people and just bringing an awareness to you know, what has been done in Ohio, all the talent that comes from here and you this can be you as well, you know what I'm saying. So that's what that's basically the focus on that absolutely And what you just said just brought another question to mind one of the changes that you've seen in the industry, Like how different is the industry now versus when y'all started. Man, the industry is way different. You know, everything from the artists down to how to how you get paid. Like I think Snoop just hit it on the nose the other day. When you get the videos like all the music is streaming, but who's getting the damn money? I've been asking artists. I've been asking artists, have you ever seen a check from the stream man? Artists like, that's a good question. Then while we're streaming, then you know what I'm saying, Like, honestly, I don't like the fact that I go by music and I don't own it, you know what I'm saying. Like I'm used to like going to the stove paying for my music and I own it. I can make anybody at CD, I want to make them share my music with whoever I want to. But it's like it's like I'm writting my music now I'm paying to stream music. It's like I'm wrinting my music. I don't really own it. I'm not really fooling that, you know what I'm saying. But I agree that with all this AI stuff and things going on, artists, artists need to wake up and be more about business man like people need to understand it ain't like to hear with being a damn celebrity that's overrated. Don might give a damn about no celebrity or a fan. Where is where is the money that we've been working hard for that's what we want to know, you know what I'm saying. Like, and they these artists, like they need to wake up now because they're so busy popping these pills. It's drunk and doing all this and they're gonna wake up tomorrow and their career is just gone and all that money is gone and they and they're gonna be told they old millions of dollars and there's nothing they can do for them, you know what I'm saying. So like this is the coature this culture. Even though hip hop has been around fifty years, it's time for us and shaking up in hip hop for real, because it's been fifty years of positive, great music. But on the business side, it's been fifty years of bush and that has to change for real, right And and speaking of man, before we before we go, I gotta ask you this now, since you brought it up, Man, that that AI stuff man is crazy. Not only are people using AI to write lyrics in the pattern of any famous artists you can think of, but there was a few months ago, probably about two months ago, and AI created song that was using the voice of known hartist. I think it was a Drake song. It was like a drinking a faith drinking future song. I believe ya talk about that that that's insane. Yeah, and it's crazy because I was just asked, I was asked to cautionate about that. I was on a car with some AI people, you know, the other day. Now, I was introduced to the AI in a different fashion. It was introduced to me in a video from a fashion you know. I guess it's like certain kind of videos you can make and stuff like that. It wasn't introduced to me as somebody taking your voice and doing what they want to do with it. I'm like, how was that even possible and legal? When a person can't do that with your likeness, right, a person can't even do that with your life, Like they have to get it licensed. So how do so? How don't don't they have to get your voice life? How can they just take your voice and do whatever they want to do with it? It should be alleging. I actually saw them talking about this on the news on the evening news, and they're saying how dangerous it is. So I'm just wondering how long it's gonna be around and if they're gonna regulate it, like for real, because it's more than just the dangerous in it are more than just music. Yeah, more than just music. It's I heard somebody call somebody here. Somebody said they had somebody's daughter and got money out of them. Yeah, they had the perfect voice. So it's dangerous overall and something that dangerous. They should they should, they should nip it like because in this world, believe in the day. Man, it's already. It's already crazy stuff going on already. We don't need nothing to add it to the side, for real. Absolutely, let everybody know how to they want to get in contact with you on social media, keep up what you got going on. Also if they want to get more information about Spread Love Foundation and all that good stuff. Man, Yeah, you can follow me on social media on I G I am Crazy Ball. On Facebook is Anthony Henderson. And Twitter it's no Twitter, I am Crazy Bone. Instagram is Crazy Underscore Bone, and you can find If you want to know more about the Spread the Love Foundation and what you can do to help be a part or donate, you can hit us up on the website. The website to Spread the Love Spread the Love oh dot com. You know what I'm saying, And uh. We also have an ig spread the love. Oh I believe on I G as well. So yeah, I mean we all over man social media website. If you're interesting to be in a part or helping us, or have ideas that can you know, help us get to where we need to be, please feel free to tap in with it. We open to any suggestions and ideas for sure. Absolutely. And when is the street rename the ceremony that is August eleven, August eleven, eighth ninety nine, Saint Clair and Cleveland make sure that y'all y'all come by and show support Crazy ball Man. Thank you so much. Man. It's been a pleasure man, not only not only today, but the interviews that we've done before. You know, they always had it saying, you know, don't don't ever meet the people that you're that you're a fan of, but you know you have been. It's been a pleasure, man. I really appreciate you, real humbling down the earth man with that Cleveland swag man, And it's just it's been a pleasure, man. I appreciate it, and I appreciate all the all the love that you and your team have shown us. Man, So thank you man. Thank you same here Bro. Appreciate you man, Thank you all right, one more time. Shout out to Crazy Bam for coming on the show. We're really appreciated a great, great, great interview and we hope that you all enjoyed it, that it impacted you as much as it impacted us. 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