Ep. 387 - Police Misconduct in Alabama and more
The Outlaws Radio ShowDecember 14, 202301:11:2565.23 MB

Ep. 387 - Police Misconduct in Alabama and more

The team shares their thought about the eregious police misconduct case in Alabama where officer Dana Elmore tased a handcuffed man who was not resisting, as well as other discrimination issues going on in Alabama and more.
This is the FCB Podcast Network break this when they trunk job foot change. As to John, we don't listen to y'all this d hotel. We don't listen to y'all this D hotel. Make um scream out now like us sound dun because the rockets in the crowds like U. Tune in the charge for the Outlaw. Tune in the charge for the Outlaw. Welcome to the Outlaws. This is darth Yjoga King Penmorrow alongside Robin O'Malley and Dante Bright. Don't forget too. Like us on Facebook and Facebook dot com Slash the Outlaws Radio. Follow us on Twitter and Instagram at the Outlaws Radio. Miss O'Malley, how are you tired? I'm tired? Are we all tired today? Because Dante's talking about that before the before the show started, I'm tired too, don Yez, I'm tired. It's been a long week for real. So you had a long week too, Oh my gosh, and it's not even over. My week doesn't end until Monday. Are the kids on break yet? When are they going to break? Uh? They actually do not go on break yet. My son actually needs to check because he's in homeschool. But Nana her school, my baby her school is like literally two one or I think it's a couple of days before Christmas. Like they did the same thing with Thanksgiving. It's weird because when we were in school, like he was out for like a week before, right, like, not like no two days. Yeah, Like it's literally the friday before that week. So it's really so you still got some more time, some extra time. Man has to have to take a baby girl to school. Yeah, and let me tell you that's been really Oh and you know what, guys, so I have been having to wake up even extra early because my baby she is in choir and early to her choir practice on certain days. And she just had her first show yesterday and they announced they do not have choir practice again until January, like towards the end of January. I was like, yes, thank yeah, So all right, uh D say, how you doing, sir? I'm all right, man, It's it's like I said, it's been a long week. We talked about this before, but it seemed like at the year winds down, you know, you kind of have to work harder to stay focused, which is even more draining. I think sometimes you know, because you've got a million things going on outside of you know what you got going on because it's it's holiday season. You getting gifts, you got family coming to town, a bunch of moving parts, and you still got normal responsibility. So I think you gotta you know, you got to prioritize, and it's just it's just it's just be hectic. Man. I see the older I get I see why people be like the holidays. You know it's good, but they need to speed pass. I get that more as I get older. I mean, I'm kind of jolly. I don't know, like this year, I'm a little jolly. I think I told you all that last time. Mm hmm. We know why shut no, it's Dante no, because I think it's more so because I'm more on my feet and a little more study this year. So oh really, you're your more on your feet, a little more study, darthy old, I'm out to pop up at you said you said it to me. I didn't. This is a family, this one. I mean you said it. I'm just saying that I'm sick of you. I am sick of you, stick of you. So we go right all yeah, but you know what I am I do need to tell you guys something I have to tell everybody. Everybody has to know what. My baby is turning ten years old next week. Yes, she is turning ten. So we're about to turn up. You know what we're gonna do. We're gonna go ice skating. I was just about to ask you because she shouldn't be listening to the show, so you can tell us what she what? Did you plan it or do it for her birthday? So y'all going ice skating? Yeah, you know what I mean, y'all can come to you, y'all can come ice skating. Well, y'all gonna be y'all going downtown. Well, let's not. We don't want to know. We'll probably be out here in Parma, Phil because we're not gonna We're not gonna say where y'all gonna be. But but okay, we'll talk about that off air. Yeah, it'll be out by me, like you're gonna get off there in ice skate. No, No, I'm recording. I'm gonna. I mean, I ain't fall. What did you say that I said? I just like being invited places. Man, I don't really be going nowhere. I tell you invite me. But you know I probably ain't gonna come. If you tell me you're gonna come and you won't come, no, I tell no. I'm not saying. I didn't say I was gonna come. I said please invite me, but you know that I'm not going to. So you wanted those huh yeah included, but I'm probably not going over. Listen, y'all can pop up. You know what I'm saying a little fun laugh at everybody falling. I'm recording them. Well, you better not fall I shouldn't. I don't think I will. I went ice skating before, so I mean, if you have ever roller skated, if you've ever gone like rollerblading, I think you should be pretty okay with ice skating. So, first of all, I have never roller bladed. I've roller skate. Like black people don't really roller blade, we roller skate. I mean, I have went rollerskating before. I'm not really I wasn't really good at it, and I'm one of those people like things have to be the way I think they are supposed to be. It's just weird to have shoes on that move that freaks me out. Your feet do feel weird afterwards too. Yeah, have you ever been roller skating. Yeah, I've been roller blading. Man, I've roller bladd and roller skated. How were you? Oh, I'm okay, I got you know, I got Courdinatum coordinated right so that you know it's fine. But and I got decent ballots. But I've never I've never been on the ice skates before. I probably never get on that. No, you got to come through. You got him, You definitely got to. I was a dude when we were when we were teenagers, I was the dude that would go to the to the roller arena just to talk to girls. Yeah, that's that's pretty much the whole point. Like I'm not getting on. I was always the one on the dance floor. Oh really. Oh yeah, I mean I would skate occasionally, but you know there's always them cool the cool kids on the skate floor doing all the tricks and stuff. I would just be the normal one going round and round in circles. You know. I was never that good, Like, I was never that good and I and I don't like public embarrassment, so I don't want to bust my ass in front of everybody. But see that's why you got to laugh at yourself, because then they can't laugh at you. Ain't so funny? You gotta laugh, sup. I'm learned that well before before we transition into into our topic because it's a serious topic. But I'm enjoying this, this conversation. You have to tell us now how you learn that? How do what? How did you learn that you have to laugh at yourself? Like? What did you do? Oh? I mean, first and foremost, I am accident prone, like it's in my DNA. So I mean I tend to hurt myself, walk into poles and bust my butt like that's really me? Oh you like that? I don't know. I am super clumsy. Oh, yes, super clumsy. So as you know, I can't be letting people laugh at me. You ain't about to laugh at me alone, So I'm gonna have to laugh first, you know, Like you said, you don't like public embarrassment like that, So I just learned, like you know, I'm start laughing at me because it's funny. What's the most embarrassing call you've had? All Ooh? I don't know, but I can tell you something that actually just happened to me recently. So I was at work and a customer at my job was literally right there, and I'm just talking, you know, and I've been tired, you know, from working so much. And we got it like there's a pole, like right directly in the middle of the floor, and there's carts and stuff kind of in the way, and I was walking, went paying attention and walked straight into that pole. She started laughing, and I probably turned as red as an apple. Like, but I start laughing because you ain't about to laugh at me alone. But I know it got caught on camera. I'm on camera, oh as Cara having a full Loony Tunes moment. Hey, no doubt, hein no doubt. All right, So what we gonna do. We're gonna do it this way because we just had such an enjoyable conversation. I don't want to. I hate, Like if y'all ever watched the watch the local news, and it'd be like murder, murder, murder, murder puppies, you know what I'm saying. I hate. So what I'm gonna do. We're gonna take a break. We're gonna go to break, and then we'll talk about the topic that we're opening the show with when we come back. Let's just do a clean break, go to commercial and then we'll we'll pick it back up when we come back. So stay tuned. You're listening to the Outlos. These days, it seems like everybody's talking, but no one is actually listening to the things they're saying. Critical thinking isn't dead, but it's definitely low on oxygen. Join me Kira Davis on Just Listen to Yourself every week as we reason through issues big and small, critique our own ideas, and learn to draw our talking points all the way out to their logical conclusions. Subscribe to Just Listen to Yourself with Kira Davis and FCB Radio podcast on Apple, on Spotify, iHeart, or wherever you get your podcasts. Real talk, real conversations. We got the Heat. Yeah, this is the Outlaws Radio show. Welcome back. You're listening to the Outlaws. So I want to get into this story. The story was infuriating and when more details came out, it was even more infuriating. So in Alabama, there is a police officer name is Dana Elmore. She from the reports, saw a guy at the side of the world allegedly changing his girlfriend's tire and they asked the officer asked him what was he doing? She said, he said, change him this tire, and she asks for the ID. He said, why do I have to show you my ID? Well, I was changing tire whatever whatever, And from my understanding, she actually stunned used the stun gun on him then and then handcuffs him, puts him over the car. She asks does he have any weapons? He tells her he has a gun. She takes the gun out, bends him over the car and stuns him again and curses at him, tell him shut his b word ass up and all of this. And then it gets even worse because he was arrested and indicted on trumped up charges, like clear trumped up charges. So let's go to Alabama al dot com and I'll update it from there. A fella me thin to gnaw trafficking charge against an Alabama man who was hit with a stun gun while he was handcuffed and face down on the hood of an officer's police car has been dismissed. Michael Washington, twenty four, still faces three additional charges that stem from his encounter with reformed police officer Dana Elmore on Saturday, but he is out on bond. He is in good spirits, but it's tough, Washington's attorney, Leeward Maxwell juniorson ao dot com Wednesday. He's going through PTSD. The ordeal began when Washington was changing a flat tire on a Pickens County roadway not far from his untouse. Maxwell said Washington and other were going back and forth to the house to get equipment needed to change the tire when Elmore stopped to question Johnson. Maxwell said the officer asked him what was going on and asked him for identification. Washington told the officer he was not doing anything wrong, knew his rights, and didn't have to provide the information if he wasn't detained. Washington pulled out his room to start recording, and Elmore used a stun gun on Washington, which caused him to drop to the ground. He was then handcuffed. What happened next was caught on the now viral video recorded by one of Washington's family members. The video begins with Elmore, identified through charging documents against Washington, ordering Washington quote stand up after he was handcuffed in the roadway in Pickens County. She then tells him to lay down on the front of the vehicle, which he does face down. The officer then holds a stun gun to Washington's back while she still while he goes through his pockets. She tells him to stay he's still, at which point he says, I ain't doing s word, bro, I got a gun right there. Elmore laughs as she retrieves the gun and says, oh yeah. She then deploys the stun gun directly into Washington's back, telling him to shut the f up as he screams. Washington then begins to cry, repeatedly saying, oh my god. The officer says, do you want it again as Washington continues to cry, and I'm gonna say, this is exactly how she said it s cut your bitch ass up. The officer says that's where the video ended. Reform Police Chief Richard Black and Mayor Melody Davis sent out a statement Monday acknowledging that they are aware of the video of Washington's arrest. Elmore remains on leave with pay. The department is in the process of turning over all materials related to this arrest to the Alabama State Bureau of Investigation and has requested a thorough investigation into the circumstances surrounding the arrest. The statement says Aushington was initially charged with trafficking fentanyl, obstructing government operations, resisting arrests, and first degree possession of marijuana. Twenty fourth Judicial Circuit District Attorney Andy Hamlin filed a motion to dismiss the fentanyl trafficking charge, which was granted by District Judge Lance Bailey. According to the Hamlin's motion, field testing on the substance indicated positive for fentanyl, but additional testing failed to confirm the substance as fentyl. I'm going to get back to that in a second. Washington was released from the Pickens County jail on Tuesday. He posted this on his girlfriend's Facebook page. Thanks for the love and support for real, It's really appreciated. I'm just happy to be free. Maxwell said he plans to follow a twenty million dollar lawsuit on behalf of Washington. These occurrences executive excessive force happened every day, Maxwell said, Fortunately this one was caught on film. We will not stop working until we clear Micah's name and hold all responsible parties accountable. In addition to abusive force, we have evidence that false criminal charges were created against Micah Now let's go back to fentanol. On the video, they say that, well, she searched and followed a substance and tested it positive for fentanyl. That never happened, according to his lawyer, and according to the video that we've seen, that never happened. She literally allegedly made that charge up. So what that leads me to believe. And there was there's another viral video of a commentator saying the same thing. She was going to plan it on it. Reportedly, she did not realize she was being recorded when she was doing all of the things that she was doing. She would have gotten away with it without that. Now, mind you, when the original charges came down, he was given a five hundred thousand dollars bond from the court. When those charges started dropping, that bond went from five hundred thousand dollars to five thousand dollars. That's why he's out right now. This is one of and it's unfortunate because I've said this before on the show, So incidents are getting worse. This is one of the most egregious incidents of police brutality that I have ever seen. You have so many things going on on, once stopping and asking for his id when she didn't have any probable calls to do so, arresting him for no reason, paising him for no reason, paising him again for no reason, and then charging him with false charges. You know what. Another charge was that they charged him possession of a weapon as a felon. Guess what, He's not a felon. She made it up. She made it up. Now imagine if the person allegedly was his brother, If his brother didn't record that, this man would have lost his life, would have went to jail for twenty years or more for some trumped up charges that were completely false. Dana Elmore needs to be fired and Dana Elmore needs to go to jail. Dantell your thoughts, we'll talk. We're gonna talk more about what's going on in the state of Alabama generally in a minute. But Dantell your thoughts. Yeah, man, I echo a lot of what you said. This is a this is an egregious case. And again, the thing that really really bothers me is this young man was doing the right thing right. So when when George Floyd gets murdered or when somebody else gets murdered, the response is, well, you just need to comply, and then when you see this, it's like, well, this young man was polite, he knew his rights, he wasn't doing anything wrong, wasn't drunk, wasn't high, wasn't wasn't in the wrong at all. She literally had no reason to stop none. She could have said, oh, instead of having compassion, like oh, you have a flat tire, Well, let me try to make sure that you know you're safe right there on the side of freeway. Let me try to make sure that you're like safe. Let's let's try and deter traffic, right, let's make sure no cars come no her for let me see some idd then I mean it. She would get everything wrong and then compounded She did everything wrong within the interaction and then compounded it by trying to make sure this young man got locked up. It's absurd and quite honestly, again, it's infuriating, man that here we are yet again with another situation like this, and people will try to throw water on it by making it seem like, oh, well, it doesn't happen all the time. No, it doesn't get caught on video all the time, because we wouldn't know anything about this if it wasn't on video, and this officer, from everything I read, didn't know she was being recorded. So here we are again, like she thought she was gonna do this and get away with it. Which then, if somebody can be so flagrant when it comes to abuse of power, it leads me to believe that they have never that they have done this before. You are not so comfortable with just assaulting somebody and violating someone's rights and abusing your authority for the first time. This could not you are not. She did this as if it was second nature for her. Right. She was very smug. She was laughing, almost laughing and smiling through the process. So it's not you don't talk to people like that for the first time. Right, You are not this comfortable breaking the law, and that's what she did. She's a lawbreaker. As a police officer, she's a lawbreaker. You are not this comfortable doing that and abusing your authority for the first time. So her entire record needs to be examined because as who has she railroaded before in the past that wasn't caught on video, And that's the point that really needs to be made. When you see police brutality on camera, you need to really think and understand if you can do this on camera or or if you did this without realizing you've been recorded, while you you've probably done this before and you sleep well at us. We need to examine your whole entire arrest record to see who else have you railroaded, who else has a story to tell and at least hearing, because this is flagrant, I mean the most one of the most disrespectful cases I've ever seen. I think, at minimum from a policy perspective, because you know, I'm always thinking about policy from a policy perspective, at the bare minimum, and this is the bare minimum. At the bare minimum, none of these police departments should have officers on the street without body cams, at the bear minimum, because if that, if his brother did not record that, we would never know. Correct. So at the very least, at the very least, there should be a national body cam law making every single police department in this country making it a requirement for their officers to have body cams. At a bare minimum, robbing your thoughts. So, first I want to start off with why is it every time a situation like this happens, these officers are let on leave paid leave first? And for that is my first question because how is this officer allowed to leave on pay when she just committed crime? Like technically, yeah, I mean it's it's I mean, let's be honest. It's been a question, oh for sure. But you know where I'm going with that. She did, you know? Yeah, But it's crazy to me because this man, all he was trying to do was change his tire, like he going back and forth for the tools. He's trying to go back and forth of all he trying to do is change his tire. What did he do so wrong? And then for her to talk to him like he ain't noth in but some dirt up underneath her shoe, talking about shut the f up, holding the stun gun to his back while he's got his face planted into the car. This man is not in the fear for his own life like all because he's changing his tire. When you could have just been like, oh okay, like Dante saying, like, you know't offer assistance. Okay, let me stay, let me turn my lights on so people could see you. You know what I mean? It could be something as simple as that. Yeah, like you ain't even got to speak to him. Oh okay, let me just turn my lights on, go ahead and change your tire. I mean, I get, I get she's a woman, So I'm not saying go change this man's tire. But the least she could do is that, so, I mean, and then to turn around and place all these false charges on him, that's bizarre, Like that's insane, Like how do you just throw out things and then say that he you know, he's a criminal already when he's not clearly. I feel like, just like Dante was saying, and I was sitting there thinking it's crazy when he was saying it, I was thinking it, like, they really do need to pull her track record, like to see what she has in the past, because I can guarantee there's a list of things. It's probably a book, depending on upon how long she's been an officer. But that's crazy. How they abuse their power. That is crazy. Yeah, yeah, no, it was. It was wild. And I agree with both of y'all. Every single case that she has been a part of needs to be examined, every single case. And then the question that I have Dante, why was why was the DA so quick to jump on these charges without any proof whatsoever? You know, if man like you should be able to look and see if he's an actual fellon or not before you charge him as being an ex felon in possession of a gun. Do we know how large is that town or that municipality that that's you know, it's a small it's a small town, a small county. Rather, I mean, I'm gonna say something that you know, I'm sure you guys probably don't feel comfortable saying, but I'm gonna say it. How would she treat it if it was me, someone like that looked like me, someone like me that was changing theirs tire? What would she do? That's a good question. I think I think we know the answer to that was that was a question, but it was a statement, you know what I mean? Yeah, that's right, that's right. So Dante, to answer your question, the city is the city of Reform, Alabama. Uh, it's seventeen hundred people. That's that's the size of the population. Now the side of the county is nineteen thousand, So this is this is a small town Alabama. Yeah, you know, I don't want to be prejudiced against the small towns and every but I mean, we you know, we understand, right, we understand well, and I've had people tweeting. I've had people tweeting at me who know about that area. I had one person say to me that that's Pickens is a sundown county. You drive in and out of that, boyd you know what I mean. Now, keep in mind Michael Washington. They said he was twenty four years old. I ain't ever experienced anything like this, right, He's younger than all of us. And you know there are and this is I promise you, this is not a knock on the South because I know we have listeners in the South, and my family is from the South. My father was born in Alabama. You know, yeah, so this isn't I'm not dogging Alabama. I'm not dogging the people, the regular people, the normal people. I know that there's good people in Alabama. But there are some problems in the state of Alabama. First of all, you have this situation. Now you have if y'all remember the incident on the boat in Montgomery where now, after that happened, we all saw the black guy, who I believe was the captain. We all saw him get jumped by those white dudes and he fought back, trying to protect himself. But Alabama, last I saw, and I haven't uh, I haven't checked the update recently, but last I saw, they charged the captain with assault when he was clearly attacked and clearly attacked on the video. So you had that, you had. There was an incident that I was just made aware of today that in a black area the sewer system was so backed up with sewage that the federal government had to intervene on civil rights causes. In other words, there is a question as to whether they allowed that to happen on purpose. Then you have the US Supreme Court this year ordered Alabama. They said that Alabama was in violation of Voting Rights Act and they had to create another black district or or district close to it, as close to being majority black as you could. They violated a court order from the United States Supreme Court. They just basically said no, we're not going to do it. They had to get sued again, go back to court again, and they made them enforce it again. All of these things, all of these things happened this year in twenty twenty three. Here's the sewage story. Federal government intervenes in Alabama's sewage crisis on civil rights grounds. This is May fourth, twenty twenty three. The federal government has found that Alabama's rampant sewage issues in poor and minority communities in the Black Belt raised concerns of civil rights violations, and federal officials are working with state authorities to implement a solution to issues that have plagued the area for decades. And an investigation begun in twenty twenty one by the US Justice Department's Civil Rights Office determined that the Alabama Department of Public Health's enforcement of sanitation laws threatened residents of Louds County with criminal penalties and even potential property laws for sanitation conditions that they did not have the capacity to alleviate. The investigation, conducted by the Civil offices of the Justice Department and the Department of Health and Human Services found that ADPH engaged in a consistent pattern of an action and or neglect concerning the health risks associated with raw sewage. According to the Justice Department news release Raw Sewage This happened in May. This is The federal investigations stated that despite adph's awareness of the issues and the disproportionate burden and impact placed on black residents in Lowes County. It failed to take meaningful actions to remedy these conditions. Without access potential sewer lines or working septic systems, many residents of the Black Belt have resorted to straight piping sewage waste directly into the ground, meaning the waste flows directly into some yards, potentially exposing children to health risks right outside of their homes. This practice creates unsafe conditions, but many low income residents cannot afford a better solution. So clearly there are significant issues in Alabama. Here's a perfect example. They were enforcing a law about raw sewage satitation laws. Read this sentence again. The Alabama Department of Public Health enforcement of sanitation laws threatened residents of Laws County with criminal penalties and even potential property laws taking your house for sanitation conditions. They did not have the capacity to alleviate. Why has the state of Alabama not made sure that those people have working plumbing. It's twenty twenty three. It was neglected, and the Justice Department believes intentional. So that is four incidents, four major incidents, including this new one that we're talking about now, four major incidents in the state of Alabama in twenty twenty three. All four of those incidents happened this year. Dante, Clearly there's some issues in Alabama. No, there really is, or there really are. I I don't know, man, I don't know. You seeing a lot of this stuff around the country, and it's like, why why are we going backwards? Now? Don't don't get me wrong, like you like you know, we talk about this all the time. There has obviously been incredible progress made. But when you see things like this and he you know, you hear the Justice departments kind of say that this they believe it was done intentionally, It's like, what is going on? Man? What this should not This type of stuff should not be happening, right, the type of stuff that we saw with with mister Washington and also an Alabama it we should be so much farther past this, right, especially when you would have people tell you right, when you would post about stuff like this, right, and you wait into these political waters on Twitter more than I do now, just because I don't have the stomach or the patience for some of the responses and some of the people that you know you'll talk to, right, this is something you know, just in the side. I tell Darky this all the time. He is a man of great patience, and if y'all knew him how I know him, y'all would be just as shocked as I am that he can be so calm with some of these people on Twitter. I'm not. I don't have a patience for that. You know, he could be an educator. I don't have the patience for that, because some of these people will literally look you in your face or will tell you with a straight face, and this is in person and on social media, and tell you, well, you should just be colorblind. We don't see, we don't see this stuff. Really, really, you don't you want you want a color blind society when stuff like this is happening. Really, like Robin said, what would this police officer had but this police officer had to responded to a white person that same way? Of course, we don't know, but I have my suspicions, right, I'm entitled to make a you know, I'm entitled to make to make an assumption here. So you you want me to have a colorblind socidey? You? You you think that if people would just comply, nothing would happen. Well, proven wrong? You think that in twenty twenty three, we pass all this racism stuff right, well wrong. You're just uncomfortable with the conversation. You just don't have the stomach for the conversation. And quite honestly, you might you might not want to have a conversation because you might have some issues of your own. When I see some of the responses to some of this stuff, I say, hmm, these these are responses from people who who say they love you. These are responses from people who who claim to be allies. Maybe everybody should look in the mirror that part classwords miss about it. All in all, it's a very uh, disgusting situation. That's really all I can say. All Right, on the note, stay tuned. We have Tea Time with Row coming up next here on the Outlaws. This is the Outlaws Radio Show. Welcome back you listening to the Outlaws. And now was the time of the show that we like to call tea Time with Roe. Turn it up, out the infectation, the latest celebrity news, and gossipation. It's Tea Time with Row on the Outlaws Radio Show. I got a few little topics for you. I mean, it's not a little sizzling hot, but it's hot enough. I mean, but we're gonna start off with the hottest cup. I mean, in my opinion personally, because like first and foremost, everybody loves Ashanti. I mean I do anyway, Like how could you not love her music? Like, and she a baddie forroh Like so and she is recently not too long ago, I think that I had said that she is dating Nelly and so now, huh that's yeah, they got back together. Yeah, And a lot of people were like, how do you know that they're together? Do you not see them posting all over the place stupid like but no, So Ashanti, she basically put it out there. Ashanti is pregnant. She is expecting her first child with Nelly, And I mean, I'm actually kind of excited for her because truthfully, let's let's be honest. Throughout the years, Ashanti's music has been fire. Let's start out with that. But oddly it was fired because every time she get her heart broke that if she just her pen be like going no. And in twenty twenty three, she gets to have the blessing of starting her family with the man who originally she was dating years ago. It did not work out, I'm not sure of the reasons they were young, So I'm really very much happy for her with that. Yeah, congratulations, congratulations to a Scianti and Nellie Dactor. You got anything I add on this. I'm salty. Me and Ashanti could have had the perfect love story. Her birthday is October thirteenth. My birthday is October thirteenth. It could have been an incredible love story. Nelly already has children, if I'm not mistaken, I don't have any, So like we could have started out together. We could have built our family from scratch. And I'm not hating on Nelly. I respect it. You know, he's doing this thing this time around. You know that's cool. Congratulations. But you know, if Ashanti would have looked at my DM, she would have seen that, you know, there was other options out there. Wait a minute, Dante a shot in her forty forty forty three. Okay, Well she can still get pregnant, so that's all that matter. We can still She's still she not past her child bearing age, so we could still we should have still made it happen. But she, you know, didn't look at my DMS for whatever reason. And you know, I guess she had to settle for what she had to settle for. But I'm just saying she listened to you know, it was other It was you have options, honey, you was not you have other choices. But congratulations, that's we happy that happened for you know, moving along, Dante's heartbroken. So I don't know if anybody knows this or not. Like Dante was just saying how he has a birthday twin, So shout out to my birthday twin who is no longer here with us. It's been quite a long time. So Aliyah, Aliyah, she allegedly has new music coming, and I don't know how I feel about this. Hopefully it's true and not just some random rumor. If she does, that's about to be on replay period. Yeah, I'm I was a big Aliah fan. I still play Aliah's music. I would love to hear. So you said this was this was stuff. Obviously, this was stuff that she did before she passed. So probably like what because she passed in two thousand and one, so like around that area something like that. Actually I think it was about two thousand exactly, Okay, a year before Okay, yeah, so because she passed in two thousand and one, But so this music she probably recorded around two thousand. Yeah, it'll be interested to hear Dante. I know, it's it's it's always kind of controversial when people release music from artists that have passed away. To me, you know, as a fan of some of these artists, as long as you know you stay true to the sound, to their sound, you know, I don't have a problem with it. I don't like if you like, I don't want to hear Marvin Gaye using auto tune, you know what I mean? Like, I don't want to hear something like that. If you stay true to the sound, even if it's a new producer or new production or whatever. You know, I'm cool with it. What's your thoughts. I don't really have an opinion either way. I would just say, let make sure that the people you know, like her family or whatever, like, make sure that they can eat off of that too. Yeah, if if she you know, I don't she not no kids or anything, but like, if she you know, any surviving relatives, let let's let's let them eat off of that. You know, don't don't sit up here and release her stuff and not let any of her loved ones, people who she would want to get a peace, not have anything right, don't don't do her state like that that that would be my only thing. But other than that, I mean, you know, go for it. I don't. You know, it doesn't bother me either way. Max, all right, So this one kind of threw me for a loop. Wasn't expecting it. I don't think any of us would have been expecting this. So a woman recently was arrested for pouring gas a lie trying to burn down Martin Luther King Junior's birth home in Atlanta, Like says, why why? Yeah? Yeah, that's insane, Dante. Did you want to say any other stuff that she's off the air? Well, I just want to make sure. Do we know where Candace Owns was at this time? It wasn't. No, I don't think it was there. I don't think it was there. It wasn't. Has she been in communication with Candace? Well, we don't know that yet. Okay, need to keep an eye on watch for those conspiracy charges. It sounds like this sounds like something up Candice owners Alley go ahead, wrong, I can say that, you know it is, Like I said, it's something out of the norm and caught. You know, everybody off guard because normally this is not something that is normally done by a black woman, you know, by trying to set the house on fire by somebody like Martin Luther King Junior. Like it's it's kind of it's caught us all off guard. But I'm really curious to what her reasoning was, Like, was she put up to it? Is she just like mentally ill? Like what is what is the case? Yeah? Yeah, did you have anything else? Or is that it? So? I do have one work thing. Uh so I haven't really been keeping up with it as much, but I will say that there has been a situation going on behind closed doors. It was actually not supposed to come out. You know, somebody released it behind Amon Schumper and Tianna Taylor's back, Like we don't know who. I have not seen anything about who, but somebody did release it, uh their private information as far as their divorce. So Amon Schumpert allegedly so he there's a situation that happened where it was miss he was mistreating Tianna Taylor. But he's basically saying that Tianna Taylor never proved that he made her feel in danger, despite making the claim in a recently uh filed divorce papers. He does want the court to take action and to remove Tayana Tianna Taylor's accusation from the documents. Tianna puts something called cruel treatment as grounds for the couple's divorce, which is defined as willful will film willful, can't get my words up, infliction of pain bodily or mental reasonably justifies apprehension of danger to life, limb, or else. Yeah, it's unfortunate to see. You know, I like them. I liked uh Tianna Taylor. You know, I actually like you know, a lot of her music. She makes some really good songs. And of course, you know, Emon is a legend here. He was part of that that championship team in Cleveland. Uh, it's unfortunate, man to see. Uh, when divorces get ugly and Robin you said, this is something, This is information that wasn't even supposed to be out right, This is not even supposed to be out Yeah, somebody leaked it, man. That that's that's so tacky. That's so tacky. You know, celebrity is it's tough. I'm sure, because you know, then you got to worry about you know, just random just being like, yeah, let me let me get the you know, the bonus points for the cool points, you know, for the media or whatever. Let me just get this out, get this story, maybe get a paycheck just for putting this person's private life out there like that. I couldn't even imagine. Yeah, yeah, no, I mean data. I can imagine that either. Like if if somebody in my circle leaks something that was personal to me, not only would they not be in my circle anymore, you better make sure I don't go kick the act. Yeah. I don't really have too much to say about this one. I agree with the overall point that, you know, it would be tough to be a celebrity, you know how I am. Though, anytime a member of the twenty sixteen Cavaliers comes up, I just want to say thank you because that was a remarkable run. So I hope Emon can pull through this. I wish where Tiana as well. She seems like a cool person. I just wish the best for our guy man, because you know, everybody on the twenty sixteen calves deserves the best. So you know, just ran far. Brother, I'm not sure the whole thing a guy the guy respond, you understand, but I don't think Robert, I don't think you, and I don't know if I watch basketball faithfully, No, I don't think you. Wasn't in the trenches with the cows in two thousand and two, in two thousand and one before Lebron got here, okay around still blue. Okay, y'all ain't lived through that, and y'all didn't take it to heart when Lebron lost, when Lebron left and then came back, like, y'all don't understand so I but because you know, you remember when it's when it's when the seats were lou and it was called the gund Arena and we were fifteen games a year, and people was laughing at us, and some people thought that we might lose the cast the way we lost the Brown like listen, okay, and then that all around and win a championship like look, you ain't finna hear me say nothing bad about nobody on that twenty sixteen but wrong. But if he actually did do something like us, we don't know what he did. I say, let that stay between them because they were Tomerica. I'm not involved with their relationship. I don't know nothing about that, and I just hope that you know they can pull it through. All he knows is that he helped us with that exactly. I don't. I tell y'all this all the time. I love sports. I love certain athletes, and I respect certain athletes to discipline and what they can mean to my team or to my city or to my you know, to my favorite organization. I do not. I don't care at all about a lot of these when it comes to their personal lives. I'm not interacting with them, like we're not social friends, we don't hang out like that. I don't that none of that. Imon Schumper's divorce does not impact my life like I doesn't Bob like. I don't care about that. I just wish the brother well because he helped my team win a championship. That's it. Listen you, your personal life does not matter to me as long as as long as you don't hurt children. I don't care. I don't care, because that's that's that's something we can never come back from. We're talking about. But the potential, like the allegedly of him hurting a woman they were married, and those are very very tricky, and so I do not put my I don't put my mouth on that either way, as long as you don't hurt children, I'm okay, because I don't know when it's a domestics Listen, you know, we don't no sort of domestic violence or no sort of violence. Again, I don't put my mouth in those situations because I have no idea they were married, we don't. I don't know what that's about. They're filing for divorce, so they obviously was getting along at some point and they don't now, so all a bad stuff is gonna come. I know nothing about that. Yeah, I told uh go through. But we won the twenty sixteen title. Yeah, I had said we had a similar topic when you weren't here, Donte, And you know, I told Ramo, I don't like, I'm very cautious about touching those type of topics and issues because we just we don't know. You just don't know. And then especially like in in divorces, divorces hell, y'all, like you're like, I'm a need jab people listening. I'm gonna need job to pay a little more attention to who you get married to and make sure it's really worth it if you have to get a divorce, because divorce is hell. I mean the lawyers, like y'all, lawyer's job is to tear the other one down, you know what I mean. And so you know, divorces are rarely like applicable and pleasant, and like divorces usually get ugly. They usually get ugly and all sorts of allegations start getting thrown. And you know, like Dante said, you just you don't know, You just don't know, but go ahead, right, which is like I don't say you right, I mean, I mean I was gonna say, you know, I guess that kind of gives me the the thought of I hope when it's my time that it does not come to that point of getting a divorce. Like, first of all, we're not getting a divorce. Just go sleep on the couch. We'll talk to about yeah, because in this we in this forever. She said, she said, your asking going nowhere. It's a totally different to him. If he cheats, if he cheats, Darby, O, go get the bail money. It might be. So we don't. We don't know. And that's what I just. You know, when it comes to domestic stuff, I try to make it light because those things can be very you know what I'm saying, you know, I don't know, but Dante, if he cheat, if he cheats and then the woman turns around and does the same thing, I can guarantee you his heart gonna come out, his whole chest, throw a whole temperature because maybe don't maybe or maybe you don't. Women, every man carey. Men cannot handle the same bs that women be going through. All right, that's not the topic. That's not the topic. We're not about to go because here's she going robbing, about to get on her soapbox. All right, it's time. It's time to go to break. Stay tuned. We have hot text coming up next here on The Outlaws. Welcome back, Welcome back. You listen to the Outlaws, make sure that you subscribe to the show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, iHeart, or wherever you get your podcasts. And if you listen to this show on Apple, please make sure you leave us a five star review and a comment is very important for the algorithm and for those of you who've already done so. Thank you all so very much. And now was the time of the show that we like to call it Dante's Hot Takes, telling the truth whether you like it or not. It's Dante's hot takes on the Young Lawns radio show. All right, So I set the time aside on Wednesday to finally watch a GOP debate, and I was just so disappointed that this is how far the GOP has fallen. Now I understand that that the front runner was not on the stage, right, Donald Trump was not there, but from the four and I'm putting this in air quotes contenders, I have never watched the bait and come away so unimpressed and again so disappointing by the by the candidates on the stage ever in my life. And so if you know me, you understand, yes I do care about politics, but if you're not good at that, the least you could do is entertain me. Right, That's where I started initially with Trump, where I was like oof in twenty fifteen, twenty sixteen, it was like ooh, not really a big fan, don't you know. I can't really get with this. But the guy's in and he entertains me. I don't mind. I didn't mind watching him punch figuratively of course, punch down on like Marco Rubio and Ted Cruz and Jeb Bush. That at least entertained me, right, and then it became like, oh wow, he can actually win this thing. But that's you know, so at least if you are not good politically, be entertaining. If I you know, it's on TV, it's a TV show, at least give me something. I got absolutely nothing. I had Chris Christie, who tries to distance himself so much from Trump. It's almost deplorable in my opinion, simply because you know, I'm old enough and I have the memory of somebody who's, you know, not a toddler. So I remember when Chris Christy was essentially a Donald Trump boot liquor and was on every single cable news show talking about how wonderful Trump is. And now he can't stand the guy, So you instantly have no credibility with me. I watched Vivek essentially do a Trump impersonation all the way down to his hand movements, you know the thing that really you know, I'm a Second Amendment guy, right I talk about this all the time. I'm a gun owner. I'm an avid shooter, right this. I I have firearms. I always believe I am considered radical when I believe that we shouldn't have any any laws for you know, regarding guns. I watched Vivek say that the best way to deter China from invading Taiwan is to make Taiwan have a Second Amendment and arm every civilian. In what universe do you get off telling another country, hey, you need to pass a law that makes you look more like America, and everybody in your bro they that's not how they operate. And I understand American exceptionalism, but that's not how this works. I you know, we've talked about Ron De Santis at nauseum on this podcast, and I you know again, he is, in my opinion, the most boring of the candidates. He looks so incomp comfortable up there. There's just something about his whole demeanor that I just ever since the stuff with him has continuously come out, and as Darviyo put it on the show last week, how he seems to go out of his way to be disrespectful towards black people. It's just something about him that sort of makes my skin crawl. And then you have Nicki Haley, who everyone wanted to attack yesterday and or on Wednesday, and the thing that really just got me was like, Wow, they're really coming at Nicki Haley. Nicki Haley a complete non threat. That's where your party is, that the front runner can't be on stage because he's an illegal bride, he's in a legal battle trying to keep himself out of prison. And then the four next candidate, or that your three next contenders are attacking Nicky Haley because maybe she's the next front runner. I don't know, man. I was just it again, so unimpressed and also disappointed. And maybe I should have been disappointed with myself because I've talked about this for over a year now that Republicans should have pivoted away from Trump, because when you saw that he was the Republican candidate that lost you the Senate in Georgia, maybe it's time to pivot from him. Maybe it doesn't work anymore. Maybe I should be disappointed with myself for still finding the time to watch that, knowing that they haven't developed any other candidates, and that I knew it going in, but I still decided, no, I'm gonna watch. I'm gonna give it a shot. And I came away distraught because that's on fund side and Joe Biden is on the other side. So I would say, first of all, I think Trump. I think the reason I don't even think I had much to do with his legal cases, that he's not at the debates. He's not at the debates because he didn't want to be on stage with the pips, like it was, that's the JV, that's the JV squad. And he was like, I'm up forty in the polls, right, He's like, what incentive do I have to come down here and you know, participating. Let's see who the tallest midget is debate, you know what I mean? Like that is who I heard is like five to five and a half. I heard he wear heels too, but I digressed from topway boots, so he could be five nine. I digressed. I digress. I mean, I would argue in the polls, the poll suggests this too, that with the exception of maybe Nicky Haley, who doesn't have a chance to be the Republican nominee, none of the other candidates performed better against Biden than Trump does. So with that, yeah, those come on, come on. Can you imagine if a VEC on a national stage with with Joe Biden, Now he may win the debates because you know, Biden's not lucy, but that wouldn't be that would not be a competitive race in a general Come on, no, And and by Biden would be DeSantis as well, and this is Roger cam Yeah, and I'm not even gonna go there, but so you know, none of those like the problem that Nicki Haley has is that she would be a good general election candidate, but she's a terrible primary candidate. And if you're a bad primary candidate, you can't get to the general election, right, So that's the issue. That's the issue that she has. DeSantis is just a bad candidate, period. And you know the interesting thing about DeSantis is, and I say this all the time, and people don't understand what I'm saying. Now, I know that there's a lot there's there's a percentage of people who like Trump's demeanor and attitude and the way he talks, but that's not the majority of people. Even the majority of people who voted for him. The majority of people who voted for him voted for him in spite of his of his attitude. They voted for him because they like his policies, right, And what a lot of these frauds try to do is they adopt Trump's attitude without adopting his policies. So they and then you wonder why it doesn't work. It doesn't work because you adopted the one thing that people don't like about him, and you did adopt the thing that people do like about him. Right, and then on top of this, on top of that, I used to call Trump during the primary in twenty fifteen, twenty sixteen, I used to call him Trump the insult comic dog, right, like he's nobody is better at that than him. You all look at pales in comparison. You can't out Trump Trump. You know what I'm saying. I watched his interview. He did an interview with Sean Hannity this week, and he said something I don't even remember what it was, but it was some insult that literally almost made me like spit, take laugh, you know what I'm saying. Like, he's just He's an actual entertainer. He can you know what I mean. He was on television for years and so when you have when you have the pips out there trying to do what he does, it just it. You know, you ever go to the store and you see like frosted flakes, and then right below it. You see frosty flakes, where got like the faith, Ain't it ain't a tiger's like a kangaroo or something. You know, they're they're the great value Trump. You know what I'm saying. They're off bread like. It doesn't work, y'all, Cake, You're not adopting his policies, which is the thing that people actually like. And you can't adopt his personality because you're not as good at it as him. It just makes you look like a jackass. And that's what you see it. And finally to your point about Chris Christie, Chris Christie drives me nuts because again, like you said, he insults everybody's intelligence. First of all, he was as far as politics goes, he was Trump before Trump was Trump. He's always been an ass. He was an ass when he was the governor in New Jersey. He had his moment. I think you're seeing to guy who knew he could have been president. His moment was in twenty twelve and he chose not to run. When Mitt Romney was running and none at the base of the Republican Party wanted him, right, Mitt Romney became the nominee because he was the last one left. People were calling for Chris Christy to get in that race. Chris Christy missed his moment, he missed his opportunity, and then, like you said, he kissed Donald Trump's ass when it was convenient for him, and then when he didn't get what he wanted from Trump, he turns one and now he's running pretending to be the savior of the Republican Party from the me and old Donald Trump. When just three years ago you were on your hands and or four years ago you were on your hands and knees kissed his whole ass. It's like, come on, man, like this is this is a joke. It's a joke, and you're seeing a bitter, broken man who knew he had a moment and missed his moment. And now Chris Christy will never be president. He will never be president. To be honest with you, I don't think. I'm not so sure any of them that were on that stage, any of the pips, will be president anytime soon. All right, last thoughts and let him know how to follow me. Follow me on Instagram and Twitter at tay Brian t A E b r Ye miss O'Malley. 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