This is the FCB Podcast Network. Break this when they drunk job boot Tat said, don da, we don't listen to y'all this. We don't listen to y'all. This the out make them scream out down us sound cause the ruck is in the crowd. NU tuned in the charge for the Outlaw. Tun in the Charge for the Outlaw. Welcome to the Outlaws. This is dar Y D. Kapa tomorrow alongside Robbin O'Malley. Don't forget to like us on Facebook. At Facebook dot com, slash the Outlaws Radio, follow us on x and Instagram at the Outlaws Radio. Also make sure that you go to the. Website Laws Radio dot com. Make sure that you check that out. Miss O'Malley. It's been a minute. How are you? It has definitely been a while. I am good. I have been crazy busy looking for houses and taking my kids to Muay Thai kickboxing, so it's been eventful. Speaking of DARBYO boy Ti kickboxing. With it, it has been good. My son, he's doing really well with it. He was trying a little too hard, you know, but you know, he's doing much better with that. My daughter, however, my. Poor child, she takes after my me and my mother very clumsy, if you may, I apologize to her. So my daughter was in her kickboxing class, actually her second week going, and she and another new girl decided that they were ballerinas in kickboxing. So they started swirling around and there's matts on the floor. Yeah, pinky toe caught on the mats and went sideways. Oh god, and it was actually broken right at the joint. And so she had to wrap those two toes together. She had wrapped the two toes together and wear a hard soul shoe for a month and then wear wrap her toes together for another two weeks called buddy buddy taping. And by the way, I had to pay for that kickboxing class, like you know, so I gave that she didn't take for an entire month. So I basically just gave the guy free money. And so she healed, which, by the way, originally they said that had she acted any further, she would have potentially been looking at surgery on her foot. Oh oh my goodness. Yeah, so. She was healing, doing much better. She was out of that shoe for a week. A week, yeah, just a week. She's out of the shoe for a week and Then this past Monday, she was in her kickboxing class and you guys guessed it. She messed up her toe, not that toe, another toe on the same court, though this time it was her big toe and her and another girl. They the girl came towards her and my daughter bent her toe. The toe went bent under instead of you know, it didn't go sideways, didn't go up. It went under like down. And that was also around the joint area. Her toles swell, it swoll up bad. It did not bruise that night. I ended up taking her to urgent care the next day because that night it was closed and she seemed fine. She wasn't crying, you know, no bruising, so okay, just let her rest. I did buy her heart a heart soul shoe because I threw away the other one that I know. It's not wise. Guys don't come for me, I know, so I to buying her another one. Took her to urgent care next day, did X rays. It is not broken, but it was very much more swollen and black and blue. So yeah, we are currently back in the heart Soul shoe for another possible two weeks. Back in the hard soul shoe. Phase. Her summer's going great. Oh my goodness. How long is she gonna have to have that? Possibly one to two weeks, they said, But you know, well we'll see. I mean, they didn't ask for her to come back because it's not broken. So I'm really just lots of elevation ice and I be proven as needed. So she's she's been resting, the swelling has gone down, the bruising is yeah, the bruising is subsiding, so it's looking up. Lord Mercy, she got a thumb on her toe, Lord Jesus told her. I said, it looks like you got a thumb on your foot. Like, really, would I be a proper millennial parent if I didn't do do things like that. No, No, we different like we now we're the adults now, so. I don't know who allowed this. We are we're a different breed. So and I already sent you a bit earlier about what you're going to be like as a senior citizen. It was somebody's grandma squaring up with her grandson. As he jumped, he jumped at her, he jumped at her, and she was like, she called him to b word and she said, who you jumping at he said, that's gonna be me as a senior citizen, and he's probably right. He's probably right, you know. I mean, but I get it honestly. I get it from my mother because she is very much so that grandma really but. Except except she my mother is a little different. She might actually like grab grab one of us or the grandchildren by our ear. And or pop us with the three fingers. She still do it, yeah, or here comes the cane or something that she's gonna do anything insight she will throw at us. Get cracked by that tame man. So I probably would be like, you know, I probably would be like that grandma. You got it honest right, So. So for me, I've been cool. Man. We just had my company just produced a Juneteenth celebration for the city of University Heights. It was a suburb here in the greater Cleveland area. It went really, really well. From my understanding, about two thousand people showed up. At one point or another. It was a large event. It's either one of or the biggest Juneteenth celebration they've ever done. We had three great performers on their headliner. The headliners were Hubs Groove, which is an incredible R and B and jazz band. We also had FCBS on. Aaron Malik was on there as well, in addition to a renowned gospel music singer and also my aunt Connie Morrow. So there was events for the kids. There was bouncy houses, there was dancers. We had djk Nice and DJ step One where the DJs. We had line dancing. There were vendors, there were food trucks, there were you know, all sorts of things, man, and it just it was really awesome. Man. It just felt like a. Like a cookout, you know what I mean, with two thousand of your closest friends. Like it was. It was dope. It was a really dope experience. I put a I put a recap video on. My Instagram at d the Kingpin. You can go check it out. But it was it was. It was a very special event. It's something I'm never going to forget. I was really really glad to be a part of it and to uh, you know, lead the production, the stage production and all of that good stuff. So so it's been a lot going on, man, a lot of other stuff going on, a lot of good stuff, uh some not so good stuff, but you know, people be hearing hearing about some of the things going on soon. On the good front. I don't know if many of you know or not. Many of you may know. But FCB has a radio station like an FM station, our or. Christian pop, inspirational pop, whatever you want to call it. Radio station. FCB Faith is on the dial on one O seven three HD two. That happened in late April, I believe. I think it was either the twentieth or the twenty first, one of those dates. It's my first station that I've had that because it started digitally two years ago. It's the first station that I've had to go from the Internet to the dial. It is, which is. You know, a huge moment for us as an organization. We've had a lot of. A lot of support, a lot of success. People are really people who listen to or really enjoy it. We're we're starting to get some you know, some more support as well from different entities and stuff like that. So things are going, Uh, things are going well. Keeping me busy, and like I said, there's some there's some other stuff that I'm not going to get into right now that we have talked about on this show before, not in depth, but I've you know, let you know that there's some other stuff going on that but we'll be addressed at some point. But for the meantime, that's that's my report. That's what's been going on with me. So what we're going to do is we're going to talk about a couple of things that have happened recently to people that we both know. That is really really unfortunate. And I'm also going to address another almost kind of dovetails into what I was just saying, Like I produced a Juneteenth event that was excellent, went off without a hitch. There something else that happened that day that didn't that cannot say the same thing, And we're gonna address that in a little bit too. But first Robin talked about we were talking a little bit about it before the break, I mean before we started talk a little bit about what happened to the person that you and I both know, and let's let's unpack that. Okay. So first, he is somebody we have, well, I've known for quite some time. He was actually one of my instructors at oms. That's how I know him. He also has been an on air personality, he. Deuce. He was hanging out with some friends and I see he shared this video. He shared this video, and he was hanging out with some friends. He was going into the story get a juice. The store, that particular store did not have the juice. So there's a store across the street. So he had his charger rolled up in his pants pocket and his cell phone also in his pants pocket, and it was so it's kind of bulged out, you know how when you have, you know, just too much in your pocket, it looks bulky. So as he's walking out, a bunch of cops pulled up on him, drawing their guns at him, told his friends to stay in the car, and told him to put his hands up. He was like utterly confused, like what the heck is going on? And they asked him what's in his pocket? He said, all I have in my pocket is my charger and my phone. That's it. They pulled the charger and the cell phone out of the pocket and said, that's what that's what's in his pocket. So they confirmed that's what he It's true what it was in his pocket. They said, they give him his phone and his charger back, Okay, have a good day, and that was it. And the thing is is he said in this video where he seemed pretty shooken up telling the story. Yeah, is that. One of the cops, the main cop that approached him, that checked him and everything, was also a black cop. Deuce is a black man, but also was confronted by another black man, a black officer, and that right there that hurt him because it's like in today's world, like you know, what goes on and what happens obviously is said situation. So yeah, that that is what happened. And I was just like I was appalled to even just like I apologize to him, like I'm so sorry that you endured this trauma as a black man, Like I am so sorry that you had to. Go through that. Now, did they give him his stuff back? Yes, they gave him his cellphone and his charger and went on about their. Day like it was like nothing happened. Nothing. And did he say where that happened at? What area? I think it was East Cleveland somewhere I do not remember. That part. I do not remember, but it was East Cleveland. M Yeah. So that like when we were talking about it before the show, it was like wow, because that kind of reminded me of what happened with Aaron Maleik. I just told y'all. He performed at the Juneteenth event well that day. Earlier that morning, he was on Fox eight, which is obviously the local Fox affiliate here in Cleveland, and he was on the Fox eight in the morning, which is the biggest morning show. In the in the region in northeast Ohio. And he left there and he was doing an interview to promote Juneteenth. He left there and he was in the car. He was in his car in the suburbs. That he lives. And I'm just gonna say it. They happened in Parma Heights and he was driving listening to music and like dancing in the car. He gets pulled over by the police. The police comes to the car and tells him that somebody called nine one one and said that they were in fear for Aaron's life and that's why they called. And so when the cop came to the car and saw that there was nothing there, of course, no issue, no problem. It was a bogus call, you know, they let him go on by this day, but it was like, man, you got pulled over for driving while black on June tenth, of all days. It's like man, like, it's just crazy. So like when I hear about with Duce and then that and then Robert, I don't know if you saw what happened in Juneteenth in Alyria. At their Juneteenth celebration. Unfortunately, there was an incident. I guess it was some disorderly conduct or something like that. I don't really know what started it. But there was a video came out of them arresting and swinging and slamming. A fourteen year old and a fifteen year old. Putting a knee on one of their next and you know the whole bit. And obviously they're still doing the investigating. But the police chief said that from what he saw the video that he saw, it gives him grave concerns. So that tells me something right then and there. Right So if the police chief, if the police chief is saying that, then obviously there's. You know, some issues and there's some things that the cops did that they probably should not have done. But it's just it's unfortunate, man. And just you know, to be clear, I know, like every CoP's not like that. I know that there are good cops, just like there's bad cops. Because there's good peopeople and there's bad people. That's just as humans. That's that's the case of being a human being. But at the same time, man, it's it's unfortunate because we've seen so much of this, and not only just like high profile stuff, but just like we know people who've been through something like that. I have been put in handcuffs by the police for no reason, you know what I mean. So it's just it's a sad situation when you see these things. It's unfortunate, and I hope we get to a day where people can just look at people as people. You know, your job as the police is to serve and protect. That includes us too, so you know, hopefully we can get. To that point. And so. With that being said, Robinardgai the last word, yeah. I definitely agree with you. I hope that one day it does just peace, just peace and everybody being kind to each other. There's no reason to treat somebody different just because the color of their skin. There's no reason, like we're we are all human beings. There's there's no reason. It's not like you know one or the other is like just I mean, there's bad people in each race, but it's not like you know, it's a very all around thing, you know, for one particular race, you know. So I just I think that definitely that. People got to work on that, people got to work on their people skills. Yep. Yeah, because there's good and bad in everybody, and you can't treat everybody like they all bad exactly. All right, stay tuned, we have more to come here on the Outlaws. Yo, what's up? Bring the noise right here, Chuck, Republic Enemy number one. You are tuned in the Outlaws Radio. Show, Real talk, real conversations. We got the heat. This is the Outlaws Radio Show. Welcome back and listening to the Outlaws. And before the show started, as we were doing doing show prep, Robin, you brought up a very interesting I think it was a post or something, and I would love to dig into that. Yeah, you know what, So I was reading this post. It was on Facebook, and it's kind of interesting. I'm gonna I'm gonna read it. And the reason that it caught my attention is because I know me personally as a woman. I have learned my wrongs, my flaws and things that could use work not just about me, but about understanding. So you'll understand more when I get into it. So it says it was a guy that wrote this. He said, I've come to the conclusion that a lot of men will never be good enough for women nowadays. If you're broke, she don't want you. If you got money, If you got money now, you got to spend more. You work hard, that's expected, if you provide, that's your responsibility. You're loyal. That's the bare minimum to quiet. You don't communicate enough. Speak up, you're controlling. Good guy, you're lame. Treat her right, you're soft, too nice, you're boring. Got standards, you're insecure. To avail, you're thirsty, fall back, you're acting funny. Lead the relationship, you're toxic. Let her lead. You ain't man enough. At some point, it seems like no matter what a man does, it still isn't enough. Because let's be honest, even if a man meets ninety nine point five percent of your needs, some of y'all will focus on the five percent he didn't get. Right. Meanwhile, you're probably meeting less. Than sixty percent of his needs and expecting applause for it. No man wants to spend his whole life trying to prove he's enough to someone who's already decided he's not. And my opinion on this I will give. I agree it is true, and I don't disagree with any bit of it. I will say this though, I had a conversation of similar in ways that and it made me realize that there is a lot of miscommunication and misunderstanding within these things. And I mean men and women communicate in different ways. Men and women comprehend and understand what is also being communicated in different ways. Granted, there are women out there that are just like, yeah, you ain't enough for this, ain't enough or blah blah blah. There are women that. Are like that. Yes, there's also men that really truly don't listen and they're like, okay, whatever you say, you know. But then there's. A man who is a trying man and a woman who is a trying woman. They're both trying, but they're not understanding and communicating with each other in the way that each one needs. So that's why the mist communication comes where it's like he assumes she is saying this or she's nagging, but she's communicating. What she's trying to say. Is like, you're not listening or you aren't taking me out on this date, or. Whatever however she may word her words. But and I know a lot of women are going to be like, oh well, if I got to do all that, then I just won't do it. So I know how this goes. But then there is it's like if you communicate in a way with a man is saying like, oh I love how you do this, I wish we could do this, or just you know, communicate in a way where it's not coming off like you are not doing enough. So that's really my opinion on it. So that's why I say I don't I don't disagree with what he's saying. I think that it is lack of communication and understanding of each other's languages. So I agree with that, I agree with the post, and I agree with you said. Well what you said, I think I'd like to dig a little deeper though, because I think part of it, yes, part of it is communication. But one thing, you know, when I got my degree in interdisciplinary studies, part of my track was communication obviously, but also part of my track I also had a psychology track. And the reason is because in order for me to be an effective communicator. Communication is partially about what I say to you and also about how you understand it. Right. So so because when I say something to you, it's not just going into the ether, right like something comes out of my mouth into your ears. It goes into your brain, and it gets filtered by things that have everything to do with the conversation and by things that have. Nothing to do with the conversation. It gets filtered by your life experiences, your perspective, your worldview, your. Traumas, all of those things. All those things and that's not just a woman thing, that's a human thing. All of those things impact the way that we receive information. It all has an influence where not none of us are robots, This ain't AI, right like. It impacts the way we think about the world, the way we think about ourselves. All of those things have an impact on messages that you hear. So communication is part what I say to you and part how you understand it and interpret it. So, and the reason why I bring up the classes that I took is because the reason why I thought it was important to. Take the psychology. Classes that I took is because I have to understand how you think in order to properly communicate with you, because I can be saying something and I can be communicating something perfectly well, but if it's not being said in the way that you can understand it, it's still going to cause a problem. And I think that happens with both men and women. I think we spend a lot of time talking about communication, but we don't spend as much time understanding that a communication is a two way street, not a one way street. So it does matter how they receive what you say. And also it's important to take the time to learn, especially if you're in an intimate relationship with somebody, to learn what makes them tick, to learn their perspective, their habits, how they process things. And that has to go both ways. Because communication, you can talk all day long, but if the if it's only a one way street, if there's only one person talking, or there's two people talking and nobody's listening, nobody's making the attempt to understand the other person's perspective, it's always going to be a problem. It's always going to be an issue. You're going to run into a brick wall. And when you have those situations, eventually one person in the relationship is going to feel like they're not being heard, and they're going to stop trying to talk, right, They're going to stop trying to. Communicate, and then that's when things fall apart. Yea. So to me, it's important, yes, communicate, Articulate how you feel, Articulate where you're, where you're coming from, Articulate your perspective, Articulate what you need. I think sometimes people aren't as vocal as they should be about telling folks what they need. That. Yes, all of those things are important, but it's also important for you to understand how that other person thinks and for that person to understand how you think, so that you don't have situations because communication, communication that's lost in translation becomes an argument. That's where arguments. Come from, yep, because emotions people. A lot of the times within these situations, emotions lead rather than taking the time to actually receive, understand and then you can move forward with. Communication. Well, and it's not even just necessarily motion it Sometimes it can be a misreading of you. You said something and I took it away that you didn't mean to say, not because I felt some type of way, but because everything in my brain tells me that when you say this, it means this right, So even that becomes an issue, and now you end up in an argument over something that the other person didn't actually say. But it's because what came out of their mouth and what came into your ears were two different. Things, you know what I mean. So that's why communication is important, but understanding is more important. I can just because I can talk to you all day long, but if I don't understand how you think, and I don't understand how receptive you are to certain things, then it's my ability to communicate with you is going to be hampered by that. But it also has to work both ways. I have to be willing to take the time to put in the work to learn you, but you also have to be able to be willing to put in the work to learn me too, Because when you have that, that's when the walls come down, and then we can communicate freely without having to feel like we need to defend ourselves or that we need to be put on edge, because we won't feel like the other person is attacking us if they say something that we don't necessarily agree with. You know what I'm saying, Yeah, yeah. I definitely agree with that. Definitely do. Trust me, I've had my fair share of days. I've had my fair share of day I think we all have, honestly. Yeah, and you're right like that that whole people and people do it, and you know what, that's your spot on with that people interpret things that you are saying because of their traumas. Yeah, that is crazy because I have actually I've endured that, not even just within a relationship like a relationship, but like with relationships of family members, friends, friends, like I have actually endured that quite a bit where it's like I didn't say that. I am trying to tell you, like listen, stop taking everything to a fence. I'm trying to explain to you, like this is what I'm saying, Like you know, I. Care for you and I'm trying to explain this to you. So you know, and then people because you know, a lot of the times people. Are like, oh you said this, or they're like oh you really like that, or no that that's not true either, you know. So yeah, that does make a lot of that makes up. Yeah, you know, I got a I got a homeboy and we'll we'll wrap it up on this. I got a homeboy who. Grew up very differently than I did in different environments, different situations, And we have a lot of conversations just about the world, right and just about like what we see in the world that we're in and the environments that we're in. And one of the things that we're really good at is like acknowledging. Like we could see one thing two. Different ways because we have two different perspectives because our worldview is influenced by our environment, by the environment, like so it's so people people try to simplify something that is not simplifiable, because your worldview is impacted by not only your traumas, but also your experiences, the things you are exposed to, your proximity, all of those things have an impact on how you see the world. That was one thing when I was in college, they used to talk about a worldview and this, and I'd always obviously heard the term worldview. But the way that they explained it to me what. A worldview is makes so much sense, and it impacts even this conversation today. They said, you. Have your experiences and your thoughts, that's one thing, but your worldview is the prism. Through which you see everything. So if you've ever worn sunglasses, or you ever worn tented glasses. Right, let's say you got on some red glasses. You put those glasses on, everything you see has a red tint to it. Right, That's not how the world necessarily looks when you take the glass is off, But when you put the glasses on, everything you see. Is from the perspective of that tent. So whatever your worldview is, everything you see comes through that perspective. So it's not just about understanding how people feel. It's not just about being able to effectively communicate. You have to understand a person's worldview. And those are the things that we don't take the time to look at. We don't take the time to see, we don't take the time, we don't even consider that many times, particularly in relationships, because you can have situations where it can be like how many times have you heard people say, you know, that's a good person, they just not good for me, right, And sometimes it's because the way that you see the world, the way that the two of you see the world is just too different, right, the way that like you're it just sometimes it just don't work because all of. Those things have an impact. Like, so you the way you see the world, your your traumas, your experiences, your life experiences, not even just so when we talk about experiences, it's not even just like as a bad thing, but just the things that you've been exposed to, you know what I mean, the things that you have seen in life. All of those things have an impact on how you receive information. So what a lot of people don't understand. And this is why I'm not gonna say all men or most men, because you know, I like to think I'm a pretty good communicator. I get paid to do it. So but this is but one of the reasons why many men aren't great communicators is because a lot of times it becomes difficult to take the time to understand that other person's worldview, because half of the time men haven't even taken the time to understand their. Own worldview, you know what I mean. So when you how can I understand, like, take the time to really dig into you and understand how you see the world. If I don't really know how I see. The world, I'm that's deep, you know what I mean. So a lot of men, a lot. Of men need to take that time. Yes, you have to understand, I gotta understand me in order to understand you, and a lot of times, like men don't take that time to understand me, like I can't. If I don't understand me, I can't understand you. It's impossible. I have to understand my perspective. I have to understand how I see the world. And part of it, going back to what you read, part. Of it is because we live in a world. We live in an environment that is constantly telling us that what we think doesn't matter. So men never take the time to find out what you think. So as a result, if I don't know how I feel, it's impossible for me to understand. How you feel. Because I don't have nothing to measure it against. Jeez, well that doesn't really balance things like ain't that difficult for the leadership role? But here's the thing in the leadership role that means I have to understand me first, because how can I lead you? How can like a lot of men talk this, you know. Lead lead? Where are we going? I gotta know where. I have to know what direction we're going in order for me to be able to properly lead you, because I can't lead you in the direction of I don't know where I'm going mm hmm. That's why, like the hierarchy, the way that this thing is supposed to work, we always have these you know, the protect and provide the men and the women, and we always have these conversations. But the way a household ideally, and I know that everybody doesn't come from these situations, and there are folks who didn't have this who who are doing amazing in life. So I'm not saying that. Well, what I'm saying is the ideal situation is God, man, woman, kids, that's the ideal situation. Ways and so a lot of times for men, it's not. Just hey, I'm the I'm the big bad leader. I'm the big I'm the big wolf, and and you got to follow me. Listen and listen to me when I say this, anybody who's listening. If that man ain't following God, don't you let him follow. You because he needs to be led too. Otherwise the whole thing don't work. It all falls apart. And part of what we try to do in this era is we try to skip steps, and it don't work that way. You yes, let that let that man lead you, but if that man ain't being led, don't let him lead you because both of y'all gonna be off a cliff. Y'all heard, y'all heard it here, you know, staying what I'm saying, I'm like, I completely believe, Like, look, yes, let that man lead. But if that man ain't being led by God, he is not qualified. To lead you. Mm hmm. That's the bottom line. I'll let you have the last word. You know what I think. You don't say a word. Nobody said. Hellllujah. Well on that note, Dan, stay tuned with have time when we come back here on the Outlaws say walking back. You listen to the Outlaws, make sure that you subscribe to the show on Apple, Spotify, iHeart, or wherever you get your podcast. And if you listen to this show on Apple, make sure you leave us a five star review. And the comment is very important for the algorithm and for those of you who already done so, thank you, oh so very much. And now was the time of the show that we like to call Tea Time with Roe. Turn it up the. Latest celebrity news and gossip. It's Tea Time with Roe on the Outlaws Radio show. All right, ch'all, so I'm gonna. Talk about a legend I mean, I don't know much about him. That sounds so bad trying to, you know, using the word legend and not know much about him. I'm sorry, I apologize, was it? Clive Davis live Davis legendary music executive and producer. Thank you very much so. Clive Davis passed away as of I believe three days ago. He was ninety four years old. Clive Davis, that's what it says. The legendary music he excuse me, He who helped the launched the careers of icons like Whitney Houston, Aretha Franklin, Kelly Clarkson, and Moore. He passed away, and there is a lot of people in the comments that are like actually celebrating. They say he's done things of different I don't know. I don't really know of what nature. But I don't know. Much much about the man. But a lot of people are like celebrating his passing. I'm not really sure what to take on that, really, but I do. Also see a positive outside of that negative, So within the positive of his passing. Jermaine Duprie also speaks out after he passed away and he urges be Et to honor Clive Davis during the twenty twenty six be ET Awards. Now, when I read this part, it was funny to me because clearally I know not thing. He says that he really understood what black music meant to the world. When I read that he said that he should be that he should be honored on B E T. I was actually quite a bit confused. But Darbo educated me. He got me together. First and foremost rested BEES to him. But yeah, I guess he's rightfully so he should be honored on B E T. Yeah, so he contributed. He contributed a lot to to black and music. He did launch the career of Whitney Houston. He launch a career of refa Franklin le Face Records, which was as Ellie Reid and Babyface's record label. They got their deal through Arista, which was ran by Clive at the time. And for people who are who are not familiar. The Face had TLC. The Face had a whole host of people. If I'm not mistaken, I believe Jermaine Dupree and Social Death worked with with the Face at one point. So he comes from the Clive Davis tree. Also, Bad Boy Records also comes from the Clive. Davis Tree bad Boys. First deal was with Arista, So Biggie and the Locks and Puff and Mace and all of all of those folks. Would not have they wouldn't have been around without Clive Davis either. So there's a lot of things. Yeah, yeah, So there's a lot of things that Clive was involved with through Arista Records. Tony Braxton, who was I believe signed to the Face if I'm not mistaken, and obviously they you know, that came through Arista as well. So yeah, Clive had a lot to do with with the development of black music. There's always been, you know, rumors and things that have been said about him. I don't know. I don't know what's true and what's not. You know, we live in an age now where everybody is always saying something conspiratorial about somebody, right, So whether things that people are saying are true or not will find out. I'm one of those people that is like, unless you are a certain fibly evil person, I don't like dancing on people's graves. I'm not a fan of speaking ill of the dead unless you are a truly evil person. You know, Clive is barely cold, and people want to have those type of conversations. If there's some validity to it, if there's some truth to it, then that's then you know, that's have that conversation at that point. But other than that, like, I'm not really going to speculate on things I don't know and things that I have not. Seen any proof of, and then we'll just you know, go from there. You got anything else. Mm hmm, that's all. I ain't got none to say on that either, because I don't know. I just know the comments, you know people, you know, the things that they're. Saying pretty wild. So they said, there's people. Saying they're going to be a surviving Clive Davis. You know, it was crazy. That's crazy. But his track record, that's insane. I mean, you educated me a little bit just now. That's wow. I mean, shout out to him for that, because that's that's like basically all that's that's all of our the millennial. Yeah, a lot of our playlists. Yeah, out of our playlist, Clive Davis has something to. Do with it. Yeah that is wild. Wow. Wow, Yeah he has a major track record. Wow, very true. All right, let me follow you. Follow me on Instagram at real Robin O'Malley or Facebook at Robin O'Malley and. You can follow me at dd king Penn Area where that's d t H d K I n G p I N. We are out of here, See you next time. This has been a presentation of the FCB podcast Network, where real Talk lives. Visit us online at fcbpodcasts dot com.
