This is the FCD podcast network. Great than this. When the truck job foot change at top DA, we don't listen to y'all. This the outtel, we don't listen to y'all. This d hotel make them scream out now, I gotta sound dun because the rockets in the crowds like a tune in the charge for the outdoor. Tune in the charge for the out dug. Welcome to the y'all Laws, Happy New Year. This is jarveyod the King's Tomorrow Along Time, Robbin, O'Malley and Done Bright. Don't forget too. Leg us on Facebook at facebook dot com, slash d Outlaws Radio. Follow us on Twitter and Instagram at the Outlaws or Radio Dante. How you doing, sir? I am good. I am good. I'm I'm bracing myself for this uh this winter storm that we about to have. I don't win grocery shopping and got all my stuff because I don't plan on going on leaving the house or all weekend. I'm about to just watch the playoff playoff football and watch college basketball all weekend, so I don't plan to lead it to lead a house at all, which I'm you know, the way this wind out here sounds it's ridiculous. I mean they say fifty degree or a fifty mile an hour wing gus, it sounds terrible outside. Man. I was just outside because I had to go to the bank, and it wasn't like that when I first was gone, And then when when I was still out there, it started and it got real bad, real quick. Man. It's just then I got I got food, I got beer, I got liquor. I ain't going no, it's disrespectful out there. Boy. When you feel your car move, when you're on a highway and you feel your car moving, it's oh no, it's windy. Let me, let me, let me get home. And then you know what's so funny is I live off the lake, so that lake effect might you know, it might hit us pretty hard. So yeah, but I ain't going on with that nowhere. No, I'm chilling. How was Joe New Year brother? It was pretty good man. I uh you know me, I was in the house. I tried. I tried New Year's Eve to go to sleep early, but I just couldn't do it. I really want to be one of those people that, uh, you know by nine pm. They sleep on New Year's Eve, just just to be different, you know, just but I can't do it. I always old, man, I just want to do it one year, just so that I can say that I get it, because it's always been impressive. When somebody says, no, I ain't doing nothing for New Year, I'll be sleep by ten o'clock, it's like, oh, man, you know what. I admire you for being different, but I would never be able to. I don't think I'll ever be able to do it, because you know, I ain't. I ain't no more. I'm a night person. I'm not a morning person. Yeah, no, I uh. I was in the house, man, I I got watched the ball drop, got drunk wine. That's all I did because I was so man. I was so tired, I was so burnt out that I was just like, man, I ain't even want to go nowhere. I ain't want to do nothing. I was like, man, I'm a chill So since then, of course, you know, brother had birthday a few days ago. Happy birthday, belated, appreciated, appreciate it. Also, your boy was in Cleveland magazine is one of the most one of Cleveland's most interesting people. Saw it happened since we were off since we were off on break. So, uh, shout out to everybody who showed me love for that, and shout out to Cleveland Magazine and you know, everybody who was responsible for that definitely appreciate it. So had a real good close of the year. Man, having a good beginning of the year. It's just been busy and crazy. It's a lot of stuff going on, but you know, had a good clothes and a good, good start to the year. Robin. Yeah, I mean I had a good New Year. I'm not one of those old people. However, I did get to party with the old people. Yeah. It was actually pretty fun. You know, like I've never done one of those hotel events for New Year's and it was pretty fun. It was you know, not you know how in our younger generation, you know, people are very chaotic, constantly fighting, shooting each other. You know, you always hear those stories. But this it was very calm and more like it appeared like a family type of vibe. And nobody knew anybody, but everybody sure showed love like they they was all related. So it was really cool. But you know what, Darvy, I'm gonna tell you this, These old people I'm telling you when I was ready for bed, you know, and it's like they were still a partying. It was like one in the morning, I was ready to go to bed. I was drunk, okay, Like I went to bed, woke up the next day, they were still party and they had a pajama party. They woke up having a pajama party. I'm like, listen, I'm about to throw up. And there was an ambulance that came for one of the older people. I'm like, see y'all thought y'all was one of those youngsters. Huh, Well it was cool, it real cool. No, it was like honestly, it was a mixed crowd. I actually seen one of my uh fellow ladies that was in the modeling photography industry. Uh, she was there as well, but a lot of them were. There was people about my age ish our age ish, but it probably like fifties and up forties, fifties and up. I mean, we'll say this. There was a soul train, Okay, it was. It was most I'm assuming these were this was yep. If you were there his majority minority. Most most black events have a soul train at some point. So I'm not surprised at that. Yeah, well the guy that with the guy that was kind of like hosting it more so one of the guys, I should say, because there was a few difference. One of them was like a jazz type player, but he played a lot of music that we would listen to, but like on his saxophone. But there was also a DJ and then a line dance king. I do not know names by heart, but he is. It's said that he is Cleveland's line dance king, so I'm assuming that he does a lot of you. Robert Johnson probably, yes, Robert Johnson, the line dance king, yep, that's so he was there. Yeah, yeah, it was pretty joco by the way, Yes he was. Actually I'm okay, let me go on the floor, okay. And I had one lady come up to me and I'm like complimenting her on her dress there, and you know, next thing you know, she was like, hey, she was like, I got a play coming up, mind you. Her plason isn't until February. And I'm like, oh, that's crazy because I do acting. And she was like, oh tree, So she takes my information, let's connect. I'm like, you know what, I can't go nowhere like it's everywhere always network drunk and all right. I so we have I don't know if I want to call him a special guest, but uh, we have a guest that we're about to go to right now. All right, we have a guest. I'll usually say special guests, but he ain't no special guests. He's been on here. He ain't special like that. Uh, political commentator and all around curmudgeon, Kalad Damar will talk. Come back. How you doing, Brether? I'm well, thanks for having me. I got a lot to say when don't you have at you said that that was news, all right man, So obviously it happened about two weeks ago now and set the internet on fire. You have some a little bit of experience in this space, in this industry. Let's talk a little bit about the Cat Williams interview. First for people who don't know, because you know, people a lot of times know you for political commentary and for getting blocked by people on Twitter. Help people a little bit of your history in the comedy space. Some of the stuff that you well, I used to promote comedy back in the day, I actually worked with and have been around the field of people who you've been hearing from lately. I've been. I promoted Corey hocom I was one of the first people to promote him in this part of the country. Actually, back in two thousand and two, I worked with Coco Brown, who you know well when she first actually got started. I promoted her. Actually she was on the same show with Corey, and I worked with guys like Lester Barry Houston, the host Comic View. I've hung out with Mark Curry on a few occasions, which I'll talk about him later. So I've been and my cousin Michael Williams, who actually just spoke to today. Michael Williams actually made the careers of most of the comics that you know of, possible from the comedy theater which he started in the nineteen eighties in Los Angeles. So Robin Harris was a MC. Every comedian that you know of over a certain age, particularly the Steve Harvey's and the Martin Lawrences and the the Berdie Max and well particularly the Jamie Fox and Mark Currys and all those guys from the nineties from the eighties on started in Michael's club in Los Angeles. So anybody who's anybody who was in black comedy the last thirty years. They've worked with my cousin at some point. So these guys are I know quite a bit about them. I know how they think. I've worked with some of them. And that's where I started to look at what's been going on with these guys. Black comedians are the most successful they've ever been in the history of planet Earth. But apparently there's just so much toxicity going on with these guys. So I looked at this Kat Williams interview a lot differently than everybody else did. Okay, So, and for people who don't know, if you've seen the Deaf Comedy the Deaf Comedy Jam Special, and I think it's still on Netflix now, they mentioned the Comedy Act Theater in that special, that's yeah, Michael. Michael actually gave Russell Simmons the and this comes from Russell gave Russell the inspiration to do Deaf Comedy Jab and put it on television. Michael got sick, he got cancer and it took him out of commission for a few years, and Russell kind of took it and ran with it. But all of that what you saw in Deaf Jam was from the club. He wanted to take the club and put it on television, and he admitted that Michael's comedyact theater was the inspiration for him and all of those people in the early days of Deaf jam particularly the guys on the West Coast, were working at Michael's clubs, and he had won in Atlanta as well with Jamie and all those guys. So Michael is certaly a pioneer in the industry, and actually had a conversation with him today about this stuff. So so, all right, so when the interview dropped, and of course we're gonna talk about this a little bit more and uh later on in the show and Robin segment t time. But when the interview dropped, what were what were your thoughts, particularly particularly from being somebody who knows some of the guys he was talking about actually and had some experience in that space. Well, for one, here's the thing, Kat is one of these guys that he is known for being a little delusional in some respects and dramatic. However, not to say that he didn't tell some truth. If you talk for two hours, you're gonna tell some truth. But he also sold a lot of nonsense as well, and he just goes off and starts talking, and a lot of the stuff you go, okay, yeah, that's true, that's true, is true, and then a lot of stuff isn't true. So it's like, unless you know, you don't really know how to unpack a lot of the stuff. He said. Now, Kat talks in riddles as well, and all of the guys steal jokes. They all do. And you know what, the first thing Corey Holcombe told me about Coco that she steals his jokes, which she says is a damn lie. That's the first thing he told me is she was really new to the business. This was like in two thousand and two. And he was like, yeah, you know, she stole to be stealing jokes. Man, I had to check her about. They all steal jokes or they all use jokes, and they all accuse other people of stealing jokes. It's like that's just what they do. And so when I was listening to to Kat, I was like, okay, yeah, well some of the stuff I just think it's pure nonsense. Like when you say Kevin Hart is a plant for what purpose? And what is what influence does he really have for you to say he's a plant. I mean, people's careers go in different directions. Kat was saying that, who do you know in their first year of comedy has their own TV show and blah blah blah. That's not what happened with with Steve, with the with Kevin Hard, he didn't come out and win one year to have a sitcom and have he hain't been in the game for ten years exactly. He really blew up. Yeah, and he had a couple of he was then right, he just yeah. Cat was just saying a bunch of nonsense. You can say whether, I mean, whether you think somebody's funny or not is relative, right, it's subjective. You could say whether you think Kevin Hart is funny or not funny, But you can't say he didn't work. He worked, Oh he worked. Yeah. But see it's jealousy because they always take shots at the guys at the top. So the guys that take the most shots are Steve Harvey and Kevin Hart because they're the most successful. No coincidence, Right, People talk about you when you're at the top and you're at the bottom. They don't talk about you when you're in the middle, Right, so, and and a lot of the things that this you know that that should I say. So, there's a catalyst for this nonsense about oh, you're wearing a dress came from Dave Chappelle. We all in nineties love loved Martin Lawrence, and we loved a Living Color. We thought it was hilarious, Wanda uh shanee ay and all that. We thought it was funny. But as soon as Dave Chappelle comes out and says, oh, they're always trying to put a black man in a dress, which is nonsense, which is which is just flat out nonsense. And anybody who knows history of comedy, that's what comedians have been doing for one hundred years, from Milton Borough, Jack lemon Tony Curtis, the Three Stooges, the Marx Brothers, uh, you know, John Robin Williams on and not. That's just what comedians do. You don't have to like it, but it didn't become this thing where you're accusing everybody who played a female Flick Wilson can't forget him. Now, all of a sudden everybody has somehow been emasculated and is some sort of secret transgender person. I don't know, it's just this mentality of putting all the comedians who were dresses, particularly black ones, and somehow that means they've joined some club and they've been violated. Uh. This is this is the mindset that people like Kat perpetuates, and he appeals to a lot of people with with this with this mindset. Secondly, I look at all of this. Everybody's beefing with everybody in comedy. You have Bernie and Steve were beefing, you know, Bernie Steve Harvey and you know Mark Curry you stole my joke or uh, Bruce Bruce and Revel Crawford had a little beef for a while. Corey talks about everybody, you know, segregator Tayler was going in other words, these guys act just like dudes in the hood. And I'm gonna tell you something. This is indicative of the entire what I call the black sphere, this entire culture of toxicity where everybody's arguing with everybody, even the women too, of course some more and Shaw Underwood and Monique and they all had their beefs. We just don't seem to like each other, and we always seem to go at each other, whether we are on the corner, whether or not we're in Hollywood, we all just seem to attack each other just because that's just what people seem to do. Uh, particularly in the called the black spears, and social media is the oil that greases the skis for this stuff that happens. Everybody can post a video, everybody has a platform that can make its way around the world in five minutes, and then somebody has to respond, and then you got all these beats going on. This is just insane to me that all this toxicity. And it's not just in the entertainment space. You've got Roland Martin and Umar Johnson going at it, and then Roland Martin, Boys Watkins and Umar not Umar, Michael, Eric Dyson and Cornell West. It's it doesn't stop, and it's so right, it's ridiculous. All right, hold on, hold on, take a take a breath. I don't think you breathed at all. And I want to do so a couple of things that I know doubt they want to jump in here too. So first I got a couple of points, and then I have a question for you, and then not take on jump in. First of all, I think what you're seeing. Obviously it's more acute, we're more aware of it. It stands out more to us because we know these people, you know what I mean, a lot of these people or whatever. But I think what you're seeing is a level of toxicity. Well, I think there's two things. One, Yeah, there's a level of toxicity in the culture. And when I say culture, I mean American culture across the board, black, white, blue, pink, purple, polka dots, orange, Like, there's a top level of toxicity in the culture period. I believe social media has a lot to do with it because of the fact that negativity like it, people feast on negativity, right you can I can go on on Twitter or x or whatever and be like I love dogs, and they'll be like, you're discriminating against catch your son up a bit, you know what I mean, Like, it doesn't matter what you say, there's always gonna be a level of toxic. So and I think whereas maybe back in the day, like people are not gonna get along, it's just that's just what it is. But back in the day where maybe some of those things would be behind closed doors or or you know what I mean, they wouldn't get public. Now in the era of social media and TMZ, everything ends up being publish. That's number one, number two. And then I'm gonna go to Dante since you made the comment about wearing dresses been the tradition in comedy and stuff like that, with kleaving the bar ever getting the no, that is't my thing. I mean I can laugh at somebody that's doing it, you know, like I've watched I've watched FLT. Wilson growing up. I watched you know, uh Eddie Murphy, and you know, it's just it's funny with somebody else that does it. I watched John Riddard doing On Three's company growing up, but I would do it. Yeah, So that's so obviously with me being the youngest in here, I didn't. You know. All I remember is that Dave Chappelle on OPRAH talking about what is it with these black guys wearing a dress? Well, he didn't even say black guys, he said, what is it with these guys wearing a dress? It seems to be something, And you know, ever since then, it's always been you know, is it a conspiracy, whatever group or secret society people have joined. Once they put a you know, once they put a dress on Illuminati you call it whatever you want, but that I remember, you know, Robin Williams, you know, Missus doubtfire. But that's it. So this is always been a thing than black white any you know Jacobs back to Shakespeare really Okay, see I didn't, I didn't. Yeah. Yeah. And growing up, I'm telling you, there was a movie called something like It Hot back in the fifties with Jack Lemon and Tony Curtis and they were dressed up like like women. Uh it just what comedians at. Then Flip Wilson, who's one of the pioneers in black comedy, had a character called Gerald Deane in the seventies and that was a very popular character. Yeah. And then of course you got you know, Shane Wanda. Yes, right, so a lot of uh dia madea yeah now you know that and so yeah, so it seems like but there's it seems like there's only a certain select few of people that get criticism when they put the dress on, right. So like nobody ever really came at Jamie Fox or Martin, but like Tyler Perry mm hmm, it you know, it's there's rumors and stuff about him. It just seemed like you said, maybe just guys at the top water at the top, but I wouldn't know if you know Martin or Jamie Fox got that type of heat and the you know, they didn't. Okay, everybody enjoyed it doing those days, and we we sat around couldn't wait to see Shane na on Martin and Jamie Fox and Wanda back in the day. Everybody thought it was hilarious. But it's the generation. Something changed after that. Dave Chappelle thinks it's almost twenty years now, says to Dave Chapelle debuted, right, Yeah, yeah, so yeah, it's something changed with with social media and this talk of the illuminati and all this sexual predator talk, which I'm sick of from everybody. It's it's just everybody's turned into a complete zealot on this stuff where everybody's questioned everybody's sexuality, which is what Curry Hokum does on a regular basis. Everybody who he disagrees with, particularly a black male, he questions them and starts talking about them they're gay, and they're this and that, this and this is the difference. Start you talked about this everybody. Yeah, there's a lot of toxicity in our culture for sure, but with us it plays out everywhere everywhere in these schools, on the streets, in chuck e cheese, you name it. We're fighting and brawling and shooting. Uh. It played out during the Death Row whole thing back and forth where people on different parts of the country fighting and shooting and killing each other. And it keeps playing out no matter what space we get in. There's fights, brawls, conflict, back and forth. And with social media it gets real serious because people run their mouth on social media and then they see each other. Even in the sports thing. I heard Randy Moss threatening Jason Whitlock last year when I when I see you, it's on site. You know, it just keeps going. And this is ridiculous to me because haven't you been in twitter field before? Oh no, listen, It's never gotten to the point where nobody's threatened violence, you know, or I've threaten threaten n Oh. I'm trying to find out what your secret is because I'm I like a good scratch, so I want I'm like, how do you do it? I never threatened violence in public because I don't want no record of it. Right, Like, I'm like, okay, we can we can we can meet and have this conversation in public if you'd like, you know what I mean. But so I think part of it, and I know Robbin wants to get into so I'm gonna go to Robbin and secondary round. I think part of it too, is like I said, Man, I think it's just the I think it's the nature of the beasts at this point. I think this the world in which we living in, the time in which we living in the level of lack of compassion and lack of civility and and all of the things that's going on. Like like somebody asks me all the time, like you y'all know you got this question, Cleve, and I laughed when they asked because I'm like, you'd be a terrible candidate. But people ask me to when you're gonna run, Volveice, I'm like, I can't run for office because I'm not gonna I don't have the ability to stand across the stage from somebody who trashing me to my face and I don't do nothing about it. And this is this is the world that we right now. Robin, go ahead, Yeah, I was agreeing as far as like what you guys were saying with people are just really soft. Now that's really what it is. But I do have a question as far as Kat Williams, like in the whole interview thing, what do you think was the whole reasoning that he even just just started coming out with all this tea Like what caused him to be that? You know what I mean? Well, Number one, kat kat Is is a little Listen, kat Is is a little off, not a little off. Everybody knows Cats. Cats is definitely off. He's a highly intelligent guy, but he's also a nut and he's arrogant at the same time. He thinks he's funnier than everybody, even though he says he's not. I think a lot of the nonsense he said in an interview was just like, okay, dude, you have you met him? Have you met him before? You know in the revesting story. I have never met him. But I stood next to him after a comedy show about twenty years ago down in public hall and I looked and he was standing next to me. And you will but not believe how small this dude is. I mean, he is smaller than you think. He was like right next to me. And before you get to your point, just to kind of piggyback off of that, Like, there were some things that he said in the interview that I thought were true, that I believe to be true, but there were also some things that I know wasn't true. Perfect example is when he said Steve Harvey was never homeless, where I think all of y'all know, my mother went to college with Steve Harvey, and she still knew people who knew Steve and was still in touch with him when he left and started his comedy career. And I was watching that interview or whatever with my mother and she was like, that's not true. She said, I remember specifically people that we went to college with it saying, hey, you heard the Steve is homeless and blah blah blah blah blah. So that's one thing that I wanted to point out that I believe was not true. And you know, I trust my I trust my mama more, not trust Cat Williams. So I trust what she said, go ahead. But he said he made two thousand dollars a day down in Florida stealing car radios. Okay, And when he said that, he the Tiffany Hattish and I figured we said they've never been to the comedy store. Blah bla blah blah. Was guy Tory came out with photos showing these guys at the comedy store with him. Uh, everybody DC, even Ice Cuol came out and said there was never a rape scene. He said, I don't even like stuff like that, and we would never change a scene for one actor. Yeah. You know what what stood out to me on that with where I immediately questioned that and you you'll you'll understand this. Kaleigue ice Cube is a Muslim. I'm like, there's no way he wrote a rape. He said, I ain't even know know stuff like that, right, He's not right, rape of a man getting raped by another man. He's movie. Yeah. So to answer your question, Robin, Uh, I think it's also he is he's got he's got some delusions. He's also got some arrogance about himself and he doesn't he has resentment with a lot of people. So a lot of these things were personal. I hear he had a personal thing with Steve because Steve didn't autograph something for his sons years ago. I heard everybody's got some little slight thing and Mark Curry, I'm gonna tell you about Mark Curry. I hung out with Mark. I'm talking at the barbershop. Another time he can't no. I think that same night we went out to the Mirage and he was off the hook. That's why I know that that story he made up about racism at the hotel, I had a feeling that probably what happened with that story is I know how Mark is. He probably was in the lobby ripping on people because that's what he does, and somebody was like, man, who is this dude? Does he have a room here? And then he started filming. Then started like why they questioned me? He was Mark Mark? Mark ranks on people. Mark's one of those comedians who's a comedian most of the time. And I've seen him do this at a nightclub, just ripping on people, you know. And another time he was at Caygar Falls. I hooked up with him down down Kigo Falls when he came to Hilarities down there. He now talks like he's a gangster from Oakland. Marcus never talked like that. If you listen to his interview with Willie D. He's dropping F bombs and MF bombs and inn bombs. Marc has never talked like that. Now he's Oakland. Now he's a street dude, and I'm sitting there, go who is this dude? These One thing you got to know about comedians, This is very important. Comedians are not happy people. They are pained, painful people who got a lot of a lot of baggage, which is which is why they do comedy. And they're petty. They got a lot of issues and a lot of baggage. And people see them on stage and you think they're a fun time all the time. They're some of the most difficult people you could ever work with. And they also now they've all successfully got money, they're all at each other. These guys have suffered together. Coming up, Mark Curry, Jamie Fox, and I forget who else. My cousin said he paid them all fifty dollars for a whole weekend in Atlanta thirty five years ago. Right, they struggle together, but once they make money, everybody's at each other's throats. Everybody, everybody eat, everybody hate each other. But these guys have suffered together. I talked to Michael Blackson. He said, Michael Blaxson got a fake accent. His accent is not fake. I mean he exaggerates it on stage. I talked to him on the phone some years ago, and I think he gave me a phone number for somebody, and he he is he exaggerates his accent. But he went in on Michael Blaxon. You know, that's just what he does. Kat is jealous of certain things and certain people. But he's also arrogant, and he now has spread so much toxicity through the entire commedic community. And I'm gonna tell you something one thing interesting about he went in on Ricky Smiley. Strangely enough, when I got off the phone today with my cousin Michael, I go to the good Will because I bought a bookcase. And who do I run into a woman that I used to work with. Who is Ricky Smiley's aunt. I used to drive her home and I found out through her that Ricky Smiley lived two blocks from me on one hundred and five on Summerset. And she told me, and they came from Alabama. I said, what did you all live when you were here? She said, on Summerset? I said, you kidding me? I said, that's two blocks from where I grew up. So I saw Ricky a few months after that at at the improv or was whatever it was then if ball now, yeah, exactly. And I talked to him after the show. I said, I work with your aunt Brenda, and she told me I lived on Somerset. He said, yeah, he's a asker about the time she tried to whoop me and I jumped off the top porch. Go ahead. So it's it's just crazy how now he's going after something. He's never played a man, and he's just going in on everybody. So he's got some issues that he's working out against everybody, because that's just kind of person he is. Go ahead, Dante, Yeah, I saw the one thing that really bothered me because, like you said, it was a you know, with cap Man, you're gonna get some truth and you're gonna get some some other stuff. I wanted to say, when you were standing next to him, you could tell that he wasn't a physical specimen like he said that. That was the part that made me laugh, or than anything somebody else was talking to somebody else, you know, because you know he was saying, he, you know, I'm the greatest physical specimen. I could you know, run a four for right now? You know somebody? Yeah, yeah. Yeah. But the one thing that really stood out about the reaction more so than even cat putting it out there was black folk. We got to really stop with the you know, the secret society stuff and putting whether it's homosexuality or devil worship or whatever it may be, on black people. I think about what Malcolm said a long time ago, who taught you to hate yourself? Why is it that you'll have a group of black people see another black person get wealthy in the entertainment space, whatever space, athlete, whatever like, he must have sold his soul to the devil, and then you'll just run with it with with just nothing. You don't know this person, the person who talking to them, you talking about them, may have an agenda against him. You don't know it, and it's just yeah, yeah, look well he did do his hands like this, oh he did put a dress on it. And her question is always are there any white people in the Illuminati, because you know, we got we got we got Jay Z and Beyonce, right, we got Pete Diddy, we got Lil Wayne, we got bird Man, right, all these you know, every black rapper that's made some money as any ILLUMINAI we got Lebron James, we got all these It's like, okay, do anyone what you said? Focus? What are they saying that black people can't be successful without being in those exactly? So let me give you this little history on that bothers me. You remember, make it quick because we got we gotta wind down so quickly. Do you remember twenty years ago they made this foolish, stupid video about all the black people who were in Luminati. I didn't even think it was serious. It was about twenty years ago. It came out where they said that, oh, you see the little three hands like we took a picture. They said, it's a little hand gesture people were making, and they started naming all these people. That was like about twenty years ago. That's when I first heard start hearing this Illuminati nonsense. It was a VHS tape that came out that you could get it any gas station, and it's spread and nonsense to social media spreads quicker than lightning. And the silliness is people swallow a whole everything you hear about this secret society, homosexuality, anything that somebody says about it. Automatically, they give you the benefit of the doubt that you're telling the truth, especially if you've been in the industry. You got this nut moon back Jaguar Wright all over the internet. And you ever noticed that everybody's now claiming that they walked in on somebody in some kind of homosexual act. Right, everybody walked in on Diddy? I heard two three people say he walked in on didty with somebody? What did he do on locked doors? Means just nonsense. They got to start sewing the some of these guys have to start sewing People are making examples out of who was the guy that walked in and said he walked in on Will Smith? Yeah? And Dwyane Martin. Yeah. You gotta start suing these people into it. But you got to because this type of stuff is outrageous, you know what I'm saying. It's just like you can just put oh he's gay. I mean they're doing it with you know, there's been stuff out there, you know, with with Diddy for years, people have been saying stuff about him, but like and now it's with T. D. Jakes and all this. Yes, but no proof, no proof whatsoever, not at all. And my question to us, to us regular black is why are you so quick to believe this stuff about these people. You don't know anything about these Here here's the thing, and we gotta wind down. But so to me and Khale, we talked about this briefly a couple of days ago as we were kind of previewing what was the conversation gonna because I always got to scan things when it comes to co Leage because they'll was gonna come out of his mouth. But I think the thing that was kind of disappointed me. And I'm a Cat Williams fan. I'm a Cat Williams fan. I'm still a Cat Williams fan. But I guess the thing that was there were two things that was really disappointing to me. One is just the denigration of people's journeys in this business. All four of us on this show right now know how hard this is, right I got, I started when I was nineteen years old. I just turned thirty seven last week, right, I got almost twenty years in the game, and I've just now started to make that ascension, you know what I mean, And so I understand how difficult this business is. So it's unfortunate to see people dinegrate people's journeys like they didn't put the work in. Regardless of how you feel about Kevin Hart or Tiffany Hattish or Steve Harvey, any of those cats, they put the work in. They put the work in. They they they absolutely put work in for this, I think the second thing, and this kind of goes to to your earlier point. I'm not going to go as far as you, which should not be shocking to you can leave as long as we know each other. But the the level of like people love drama, yes, they love that. Why they love it? They they people would put it in their veins if they could. The thing that that just kind of urged me, and I guess maybe just as as a professional as somebody who who does this. We we talk about stuff like this. We had those, you know, the tea time, we had these type of topics. But we're not trying to build our brand off the backs of tearing people down. I've seen so many people on TikTok and you Too and all of these other places trying to build their brand the foundation of their brand being the denigration of other people, and that doctor carry that bothers me, and it particularly bothers me when there's black people doing it, because we don't have a luxury to do that kind of stuff. Go ahead, let me say it. That's what I mean about the so called black sphere. There's a ton of these websites talking about people being gay, talking about people in secret societies, talking about people. It's a ton of these trash websites, and it's a lot of them are piggybacking off of the Cat Williams stuff now, because again, everybody's gravy training off of these views. Every Spears is another one. He's a funny guy, but I lost respect for him because we are the only people that do this. I'm telling you, you don't have a white comedian sitting up on some podcasts talking about all that. Dude ain't funny and blah blah blah. They may not like each other behind the scenes, but they're not out making a living off tearing down other comics. Every Spears used to go after Wayne Brady. I know why Avery Spears is going after people like Wayne Brady because every Spears is jealous. Every Spears is stuck in comedy clubs. He after Mad TV. His opportunities have dried up. He don't have any movie roles. He's not going to be hosting anything, and he goes after Wayne Brady. Because Wayne Brady can put on the tucks and host a TV show or on award show. He can't do it. So he decides to question Wayne Brady's blackness. You know, this is why comedians, particularly these black comedians, they always taking shots to somebody who's doing better than them. And that's the thing. They're tearing people down. And the toxicity that goes on with these people who are more successful than anybody's ever been in comedy. It's something wrong here. And now they're talking about fighting in the streets and all this other stuff. Michael told me some stories about some of the similar things that he's had or seen with these guys threatening to fight, meet each other in the parking lots and all this stuff. He said, these are the Bloods forty years ago, still acting like Crimson Bloods. Well, and I guess too, there is And we talk about this all the time, and we'll close on this. We talk about this all the time because of course there is a considerable age difference between the two of us. I mean very very considerable. And what's interesting, there was something that kind of dawned on me once in a conversation with you and I had where I really kind of understood your curmudgeonly nature better. And we've talked about this before. You know what the community used to look like. You old enough can remember what the community used to look like, right, And to me, you remember what it looked like BC before crack right, yeap? For me and then, and especially for people like Dante who's younger than I am, that's the only world we know, right. We don't know what the like we know like in books or what our parents tell us, what our family tell us, but we don't have that experience to understand what our community used to look like, right, And so I think it's the same thing with this. I have a I have probably a higher tolerance level for beef than you do because I grew up in a beef culture. You know what I'm saying. Kids was getting jumped all the time when I was I was going I used to carry I used to carry a pocket knife with me going to school, and I went to private school. So you get imagine, you know what I'm saying. So I do understand that. So I understand your perspective, and I understand where you're coming from. And I understand the difference because to me, a level of beef has always been the case. But I do agree with you though, that it's that in many of these cases it's getting a little bit out of hand. Yeah, but Cats set it on fire with this because he has basically put this negativity there and he's talking about this a year of exposure. Well he's got some demons as well. And all these people now they may see each other and they may start having issues and words and who knows, I hope not. But this, this toxicy I'm saying, top to bottom is starting to like make me go, what is wrong with us? Where people are fighting everywhere or brawling everywhere or threatening, you know, everywhere. It's like, come on, stop the silliness. You know, Mark Curry's complaining about you stole my joke or you stole a joke man. Man. The reason why he's after Steve like this because Steve is highly, highly successful and just a little dirty little secret. I heard from a good source he was almost in tears a few years ago privately to somebody about how his career turned out. And nobody's offered him a movie, nobody's offered him the special of none of this. He's he's heard about it. That's what comes That's what it comes down to. Man, There's a lot of jealousy and a lot of pain, which these guys are in comedy in the first place because they are a lot of pain. Dot everybody know how to follow you, Sir k Khalid Lamar is speaking on ig and x Twitter and Khalead Lamar on Facebook. Uh Dante, you see how you had to concentrate to remember his long ass long there about. That's what all the people do you like? What's the name of that damn thing again? I actually was about to write it down? All right? Thank you, brother, appreciate it, Thank you, appreciate it. All right, stay tone. We'll be back with bord Yallows after this. These days, it seems like everybody's talking, but no one is actually listening to the things they're saying. Critical thinking isn't dead, but it's definitely low on oxygen. 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It's Tea Time with Roe on the Outlaws Radio Show. Hey y'all, you miss me. So we have some tea which we had already spoke a little bit about a little earlier. So I'll just touch up on that, just the little little tiny bit. Kat Williams, he first and foremost I want to say I I understand that he felt upset about one part of the interview where he spoke upon where he was saying the whole the whole rape thing in the Friday movie, as much as that may potentially are allegedly be disturbing to him or made him feel some type of way, I ain't even gonna lie. That's one of my favorite lines to say, always talking about pimp down, pimp and distress every time. I'm sorry, that's my favorite line. But anyway, so I will go too where he says, give me one second. So he actually is being sued if I'm not mistaken. So Kat Williams goes in again. He went on another live show talk some more crap. Then Oprah came out and she threatens to She threatens Kat Williams for exposing her, and she says, I have your dirty laundry. Then there is also Kevin Hart. Kevin Hart also sends a warning sign and sues Kat Williams. I mean, I that's why I was asking earlier, like what really made him come out and just do all this? It's crazy. I mean I did see all that alcohol on the table. You know, I'm saying, so if people and it was it was dark liquor too, you know what I mean so it was and you know that usually brings out nothing not good? Was that was that that Jack Dante? Was that that yack on the table? It was? It was I think that's Shannon Shark's own you know, own brand, and I know somebody else had commented that was on his show, was like, this is actually really good liquor, right, because this is actually really good cognac because it it's very smooth, but there's no aftertaste. And I was like, oh yeah, see that's dangerous, very dangerous. It has it's a very it's very mild. It's it doesn't have an aftertaste. Oh so basically what you're saying is this is good, which is ever where you want to be when you're talking about something that's gonna make your kneebred, Like oh no, no, look look I ain't drunk, I'm cool, I'm cool. Then the moment dangerous up. Now you know the most dangerous thing about the dark liquor in particular. Now you know, I'm I'm a Voka guy, so I don't even really drink dark liquor all like that at all, But there was one time I had my aunt had the that Hennessy v O vs O P. I think right, it was the smoothest thing I ever had before in my life, and you put it with some PEPSI you barely like it's I'm like, oh, this is a problem. It had no bite, no nothing. I'm like, oh, I fool with I don't do it not when it's smooth, and just like if it's if it's not too rough, yeah that's dangerous. Yeah, you want your liquor to have a little bit of bite, just to remind you that you drinking liquor so that you can't drink Okay, listen, but yeah, So what was his name? His name Shannon Sharp? Right, yes, so he actually does know. Uh, he's really good friends with a lot of the people that Kat Williams was talking crap about. And he's so basically what Shannon Sharp was saying, you know, in an interview of his of another was that he wasn't really sure how to approach it or how to handle it. So because he was like, you know, these are people you know that I'm really good friends with. You know, I was just at so and So's house just recently, Like we talk all the time, like we spend holidays, exchange gifts, et cetera, et cetera. And I'm sitting here listening to Kat Williams talk crap about this person in that person. So he basically was saying, like, you know, this is one of those situations where you have to pick your battles and you just kind of got to sit back and just let him have it. And I'm like, you know, that's pretty understandable. So I think, you know, if you watch during the interview where his like he's just really silent his facial expressions, he just appears like he's just shocked, and a lot of people just assume like, oh, he's you know, he's speechless as far as what Cat Williams saying he is, but not in this sense that a lot of people were assuming. Now, but with how much Shannon Sharp did make for that Cat Williams interview, He made one hundred thousand just from that interview alone. Oh wow, yeah, that must be the YouTube views. Yeah, But then the question becomes he got forty two million views and not only paid one hundred thousand dollars. Well, that video I'm sure was well because I've seen a video on YouTube of that. So do you know the time? Oh, you know, the calculation. I don't know the calculation about like how much money YouTube pay you the commercial? Do you know what that is? I don't, but I can say if you're looking at forty two right now at the time, it was thirty four when I seen that how much he had made just from that video. So it's more than that interesting, all right? Next, so the next one. So I actually just wanted there's two things that I kind of want to throw in here, so I know how if anybody does not know, then you are living under a rock. Everybody should by now know who Tupac is. So allegedly they caught, you know, the person who allegedly killed him, but then they turned around and his name is Dwayne Keith D. Davis. He was charged with Tupac's murder, but he has now been granted a seven hundred and fifty thousand dollars bail. He got that money. Wow, Okay, so hold on all right, So I think we mentioned, yeah, we did mentioned this briefly on the show, and we went back to our interview with Greg Caden, who was the cop that basically broke that case several years ago. So he uh, he had seven hundred and fifty thousand dollars bond for those of you who don't know how that works. Normally, in order to get out, in order to post bond, you got to put ten of the bond, So that means he put seventy five thousand dollars. This dude, where do you used to do? You want to know what? You want to know what? A lot of people are saying, that's what I'm That's what I'm saying, Where the hell did he get this money? So you want to know what? A lot of black TV interviews don't pay like that, right, go ahead, Rob so what? A lot of people are saying, like, I'm sure it's Joki Joki, but a lot of people are saying that P Diddy had made him take the fall for it. He's like basically basically saying P Diddy was like, you take the fall for it, and I got your bail money. Uhh. I mean because I'm saying in a hypothetical way, we just talked about it hypothetically we're not getting Yeah, yeah, I was just these black we just start suing people. She's joking. I said it like five times before I said it. I'm just talking about allegedly allegedly allegedly, like we ain't say that, we keep we're just reporting, We're not saying, we're not confirmed. That's not even an alleged really, it's more so he says, she said comment section yeah, but yeah, so it is a joke upon the people. Am I do wonder though, where the hell he got seventy five thousand dollars, Like unless you still had drug money, because you know he was a drug dealer. Come from the nineties. No, no, no, remember in the two thousands, Remember what Greg Kanning said. The way that he was able to get him to confess on TUPAC, and this was like in twenty was it twenty twelve something like that, twenty twelve, twenty ten, something like that. I can't remember the exact day. But the way that he was able to get him to confess is because he got caught doing a PCP operation and they held all that jail time over his head in order to get him to sign that profit agreement so he could still he might and he and they dropped that case as a result, so he might have went back to selling PCP. I don't know, but you know he didn't get no lad TV check like that. No, no, because seventy five thousand dollars, that's a lot of money, unless maybe that's maybe he's got that some type of collateral. I don't know. I'm not sure how. I'm not sure how that works in the valley. He might have a host or two or something like that, you know, and if he got a cast, and if he got a cash bind, he probably had to put up cash, so he might have Yeah, if it's a cash, if it's a kashbin, that ten got to be cash buddy. So I don't know. I had to ask my father used to be a bail bonds, but I had to ask him how to how that work. I'll ask him that when we when we finished the show. Nick Robin, Yeah, so next is not really a celebrity gossip kind of thing. This just kind of blew me like and I mean, no pun intended, but so if anybody's been keeping up with this story or if you're on social media, often Alaska Airlines their door. I don't know how it happened, but they were up in the air. They were they were definitely up in the air, and they their door like just came off, just completely came off, just blew away, and luckily we'll say this, so in this story, the family that was actually supposed to be sitting right there where the door blew off, that family actually missed the flight. Wow. Yeah, I mean, talk about a godsend that it's crazy, but it was dead. Yeah. Yeah. So now now Alaska Airlines the passengers, all the rest of the passengers that was on the flight, they are to receive fifteen thousand and full ticket refund after that door flew off. Okay, and I've seen a thousand or fifteen hundred thousand, oh so it is fifteen thousand, one point five one point five thousand, fifteen. Yeah. It just made me feel like real slove for second, I'm like, wait a minute, rewind. But yeah, so that that's crazy to me. It's that like I said before, that that is a stimulus check, right, I mean they that is a lifetime of I will never get the hell on a plane again. You know what is that? What is that? One? Okay? It is it is. I looked it up just to be clear. It's fifteen hundred, not fifteen thousand. So so one thousand, five hundred dollars like you said, that is a stimulus Yeah, that's that's a tax. That's a tax return and such a tax refund right there? What is that? What is that movie? The are you? What is it? Final Destination? Yeah, the one that hold on before you tell your story, before you make your point. I just want to tell this story real quick. Robin is so paranoid about that movie that when we were traveling, I can't remember if it was to Florida. I think it might have been to Florida. I was behind one of the trucks that had a log on it. He started patticking, like can you move please? Listen? Okay, even with tanning beds. I haven't tanned in so long. And it's in that movie too. You know it's listen because where do they get these ideas from. That's how I mean, clearly, go ahead, rob No, I was going to say, clearly, this story shows exactly what it is. Yeah, fifteen hundred dollars is freaking absurd, Dante, fifteen hundred dollars, that's it? Yeah, I don't know man, that yeah, like and stuff like you said, it's a stimulus chair, like, come on, min that's gonna be gone in a week. If that well with the president might not last your dad, depending on how big their family is, right right, Come on, man, I don't know. That's that's pocket change, especially in this day and age. That's nothing. That's nothing. That's ridiculous. Not only do you have things to cover, but you also have, like I was saying, you know, they're half them people probably gonna need therapy for the remainder of their lives because of that, you know what I mean, they will probably never get on a plane again. You know, they're they're gonna need therapy. Lord knows that it's not gonna be cheap to pay for therapy if they don't have already have insurance. You know, Like, that's wow. I would definitely I would. I would say I would go go up in them. I would. I would go up in them for that because msuing the hell out of them, No, no doubt about it. That's an insult. All right, Stay tuned, We have Dante's hot takes coming up next here on the Outlaws, Sir, Welcome back, Welcome back, and listening to the Outlaws. Make sure that you follow us. Will like us on Facebook at facebook dot com, slash the Outlaws Radio, follow us on Twitter and Instagram at the Outlaws Radio and now is the time to show that we like to call Dante's hot takes telling the truth. Whether you like it or not, it's Dante's hot takes on the Outlaws Radio show, all right. So Charlie Kirk, the founder of Turning Point USA tp U s A, is essentially going after one Martin Luther King Jr. Because a lot of people on the right have their heads exploding because they can't wrap their minds around diversity, equity and inclusion. Right. So a lot of talk in certain political circles is how DEI has become a bad thing, right, We don't want diversity, equity and inclusion. Right. This campaign sort of started and came to a head with the end of you know, affirmative action and you know, with colleges and things like that. But Charlie Kirk has taken it a step further. And just as an aside, we should probably mention that Charlie Kirk is who taught Candice Owns black history. According to Candice Owns herself, right, So Candice Own's black history teacher, a white man is in hot water because he says that quote MLK was awful. He was not a good person. He said one good thing he actually didn't believe. This is some of what he talked about. He says, as I just read further that I have very radical views on this, but I can defend it. I've thought a lot about it. We made a huge mistake when we passed the Civil Rights Act in the nineteen sixties. Kirk says that barring discrimination solely on the basis of race was a mistake. He says that it is a permanent it ushered in a permanent dei type of bureaucracy. The article points out that he illustrated how the law has gone wrong when responding to a question from a student who said they became the subject of a Title nine investigation after posing and posting an instagram or a mocking transgender people. So what I really get out of this is, let me just I'll say this too the court. Charlie Kirk quoting him even more, he says, the courts have been really weak on this. Federal courts just yield to the Civil Rights Act as if it's as if it's the actual American constitution. The law is ultimately a way to refound the country, a way to get rid of the first Amendment. According to Kirk, So, now Martin Luther King is somebody who Charlie Kirk and a lot of other conservatives will point to and say, you know, this was a great man. Why don't you think like him? You know, we're all one and we're all equal on the basis of race. Right, They will use the one thing that doctor King said about that, the one thing they agree with about race, to try and shut down any other conversations about discrimination or anything like that or racism. They'll say, why don't you be more like King? Well, now they're turning on King because they hate DEI. It's to me, race makes a lot of these people so stupid they really just can't wrap their heads around it. And Darviille, this is something that we've talked about a lot where I wish, I really wish a lot of these people actually studied Martin Luther King a lot more than they have, because they would find out that he was way more radical than just I have a dream. Wait until they actually find out that doctor King would have been pro reparations. Wait until they actually find out that that doctor King about Doctor King and the poor People's campaign. But like they would lose their minds. But this is only a glimpse into that because they only want to parent him and use him as a gotcha towards black people when we're having a discussion about discrimination race, right, anytime they bring up you know. The other time is whenever there's outrage or unrest about you know, a police a police matter, they'll use you know, Martin Luther King wouldn't want you out here, rap, wouldn't want you out here rioting. You know, don't don't do this, don't do that. Martin Luther King wouldn't want you to do this. You know, don't don't worry about racism, right, I want I want people to be judged by the color of their skin, not the contentent or by the continent of their character, not the color of their skin. But the second that they can turn on them because of something else, they'll do that. So I my wish is that they would go ahead and uh keep studying even more. Go go read My advice to carl Charlie Kirk is, go read the book Where Do We Go From Here? Go read that book, because he would lose his mind and just let people continue to see your real colors. Because if anybody that has paid attention to him, even just a little bit to TPUSA two. We know what he is, but just keep going, don't stop there. So now it ain't for anybody who might have been confused or thought we were being sensitive or anything like that. If you don't see it now, you don't want to see it. Charlie Kirk went full white nationalist, just flat out, and let's start here. Charlie Kirk is a piece of garbage on social media. I used a different word. First of all, he's an idiot, and anybody who's getting history of lessons from Charlie Kirk is an idiot too. Perfect example in the article that you read where you mentioned about how one of the students had a Title nine issue because of whatever he said about a transgender about a transgender person, and Charlie Kirk used that as an opportunity to attack the Civil Rights Act. Well, guess what. The Civil Rights Act was passed in nineteen sixty four. Title nine wasn't passed until nineteen seventy two, and Martin Luther King was killed in nineteen sixty eight. So Charlie Kirk is so damn stupid that he doesn't even know the dates of what he's talking about. Not only that, you want to know what Title nine is, folks. Title nine is the thing that protects women's sports. Title nine is the thing that guarantees equality for women in college. So these very same people, these same people under one on one side of their mouth, talking about the transgender bathrooms and all of that and saying we have to protect women and girls, while at the same time advocating for removing the law that protects women and girls. Stupid. And let me tell you something else, ladies and gentlemen, the Civil Rights Act. Even though the intent, the intent was to write this for black people, and the Civil Rights Act is what ended government sanctioned segregation, the Civil Rights Act also protects the rights of other folks. The Civil Rights Act protects the the rights of women. The Civil Rights Act protects the rights of all sorts of minorities, including people who weren't even in the country at the time that was passed. Our entire civil rights framework in this entire country is built from the Civil Rights Act. So guess what if you start to tear down the Civil Rights Act, It ain't just black people who are going to lose rights. Other minorities are going to lose rights. Women are going to lose rights, and women in particular should be paying very close attention to this. Look at how some of these same people who think like Charlie Kirk. Look at how they talk about women on social media. They don't think you should have a job. They don't think you should have a career. They don't think you should do nothing but literally be in the kitchen, bare foot and prick. As a matter of fact, there was someone else that came on my social media today and said, if a company wanted to say, hey, you know what, fifty percent of our hires need to be women, that inherently they're going to get women who are unqualified. You know why, because they don't believe women are qualified to do anything, so we can hire the black conversation. But it ain't just us that this would be affected that who would be affected by this. It ain't just us. These people are so stupid. They are so stupid and so incompetent, and so afraid of their inability to compete on a level playing field that they would go above and beyond to even hurt their own children and wives. These people are idiots. But not only are they idiots, They are dangerous because of the level of the platform that they have, because of the level of access to money that they have. They are dangerous because of These fools can convince enough of the country to go along with this garbage, then it's gonna be a problem because guess what, we're not going backwards. They will tear this country apart trying to do this foolishness. We've spent all of this time, and this is a perfect example. This is a perfect example of why a lot of these people who are pointing at us for their misgivings, this is a perfect example of why you are still poor the elite because these people are elite. A lot of these people went to Ivy League schools. A lot of these people are millionaires built off of your backs. So the elite have had you fighting in a BEEI Affirmative Action panic over schools they wouldn't let you get into in the first place. What the hell are you fighting for? Why are you worried about us? Your problem is not us, I said on social media. It is going to be hilarious when the same people who blame black folks for all of their problems realize that once you've chased us out of the public sphere. You still can't get a damn job because the jobs will then be filled by foreigners and illegals. Hiring more black people, Hiring more Hispanics, more minorities, more women, is not a threat to you. You better get it together because you can try to screw us around all day long because you know what's gonna happen. We know this, Dante. What do black people do? We are resourceful. We gonna find a way to get it one way or the other. We thrived, and we thrived during Jim Crow. We gonna find a way. We gonna find a way to make it work for us. We always do. In the meantime, you still gonna be busted and disgusted because the problem ain't us. The system don't work right for nobody. But instead of trying to address that, you listen to these idiots who weaponize your anger and turn it against us in order for them to get power, because they're too stupid to get it any other way. If these people weren't in politics, they wouldn't be capable of running a car wash. That's how stupid some of these people are. The Only power that they have is the power that you give to them. That's how they make money. That's how they raise money, that's how they get donors, that's how they do all of the things that they do to make their crooked ass economy, their little small micro mini economy work for them, because they couldn't compete anywhere else. You want to talk about meritocracy, they don't believe in a meritocracy. They don't live in a meritocracy. They don't want people of color, they don't want women, they don't want anybody in those spaces who do not want thousand agree with them. That's what this is about. This is about power, nothing more, nothing less. This has always been about power. Dante last words, and let them know how to follow you. Yeah, I got a buddy on Twitter who always calls them mediocre. Was just like that that they will pray. They will use the inferiority complex or or or their own mediocrity to try and pray on other people, right, whether it's to give them money or to accept them. And you can see how every time Charlie Kirk does one of these or somebody like him does one of these dumb things, says one of these dumb things, or you know, or has one of these you know, silly town halls. You know where it's always at. So he is at a college, right, It's always at some college. And the reason why is because you need to get people under the age of twenty five who haven't really experienced a lot yet, who you can talk over and bully if they disagree with you, or who you know may want to already believe what you say, so you don't have any pushback, right that, because their ideas don't work, because let's just beyond racism is illogical. It's not like you're not a smart person. So you have to find people who either can't go back at you or just don't want to. That's why it's always you know, some it's you know, it's always some small college somewhere, right, or they'll get these viral clips when somebody does disagree with them. You know, it'll go viral, but they can talk over them, right, because it's at the end of the day, it's probably a nineteen year old, right, it's never anybody that's that's serious. So, you know, I think it's been very easy to see through a lot of these people with It's crazy is that, you know, these people still have platforms and things like that. That's the part that you know that that really baffles me. But you know, it is what it is, man. You're always going to have a I don't really want to call them a villain because it's like you're not smart enough to be like a villain. But uh oh, and by the way, before you close, when you have a when you have the richest, one of the richest people on earth, you know, agreeing with tweets about racist tweets about black people's IQ, of course they have a platform, right yeah, oh yeah, that's that's another pot takes for another day. Man. He's a incredibly problematic but I you know, well, like I said, we'll get to that one another time because that that's a whole different ballgame, man. And you know it's funny to me because you know what, let's just do part of this right now. See, people have done this whole People are afraid to admit when they're wrong and pivot. Right. We see it all the time, whether it's in politics sports. Right, a team hires a bad coach and instead of just firing them after years, like now, we gotta give him two more years? Like no, you know he's suck. Get rid of that, don't double down on it. But people have been calling this man a genius, have been saying how smart he is. Oh, he's gonna save free speech. He's the smartest guy out there. So that now in order to if they were to come out and be like, hmm, you know, I don't actually think that this is all that beneficial, it would it would make you have to you would have to basically reverse everything you've been saying about. You know, this hero who's going to take us to space and and you know, save the save the universe, and save human race. Right you have. But but the evidence is right there that you know, maybe maybe he's not everything you cracked him up to be for the last fifteen years. So that's another that's a whole nother story, but it's it's something that I just noticed about humankind that we you know, a lot of people are afraid to just say no, I had it wrong about this guy, right, And that's really where I think a lot of people should be when it comes to him. But you know, you have to do something truly terrible in order for that to happen, right, And nobody cares that he's you know why, he will elevate the platform of white supremacist all throughout that, all all on that platform. We're already saying it. We're already saying that. It looks like four chan over here sometimes, which is it's crazy because you know, even the whole you know, and then you get you get some right wingers. You know, well, he's not a he can't possibly be a racist. He's in he's African American, right, because it's like, okay, you guys are just again race. You know. I will say this, I didn't put it, you know, and then I'll close with this because we're not gonna We're not gonna dig in and do this. But you know, I kind of just missed some of the things that people said about mister Musk at the beginning. But he's it's hard to prove them right. I'll just leave it at that, sir. You can follow me on Instagram and I still call it Twitter Instagram Twitter, that's whatever, uh at T Brian t A E b r y E miss O'Malley. You could follow me on Instagram at real Robin O'Malley, and you can follow me on Facebook at Robin O'Malley and you can follow me aery, where as d D King pan as V T h E k I N G p I N. One more time, I want to thank you to Kaleen and Mark coming on the show. We really appreciate it. We are out of here. We'll see you next time. This has been a presentation of the f c B podcast Network, where Real Talk lives. 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