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This is the FCB Podcast Network. Great when the trunk Job foot change said, Tom dun, we don't listen to y'all this d out. We don't listen to y'all this d hotel. Make them scream out now like go sound don because the rockets in the crowds like tune in the charge for the Outdoor. Tune in the charge for the Outlaw. Welcome to the Outlaws. This is Darvey O the King, Benmorrow alongside Robin O'Malley and Dunte Brian Don't forget too like. It's on Facebook at Facebook dot com, slash the Outlaws Radio. Follow us on Twitter and Instagram at the Outlaws or Radio. We have a lot of things to discuss. But first, miss O'Malley, how are you? Uh? You know, I'm good, you know, uh my birthday just passed this past weekend. Uh, well past week thank you, you know, I mean thirty six, but looking a lot younger. You know, my body sometimes be saying otherwise. But you don't be popping here and there right a little bit, a little bit sometimes pop like damn, where did it come from? No, be at work and next thing you know, I'll be Hey, don't let there be snow when we when we take that little that little trip there snow. We don't have a snowball fight. Does the weather get like that? I know it's cold there, but I don't know if it uh, I know it gets cold. I don't know. I'm sure it snows a little bit right there, so I'm sure. Well with me, we'll tell you the listeners. We'll tell the listeners a little later. The trip that we're talking about will stay tuned on the future episode for that. But yeah, I mean I remember used to like every once in a while go like sledding or whatever, or you know, snowball fight or whatever. But I was never one of those. I wasn't one of those kids that would like just go jump in the snow and just go lay in the snow. I ain't do that. I think maybe I might have did a snow angel maybe once or twice in my life. That's about it. No, it's see. I mean, the sledding is fun. I think my last time going sledding was actually when my kids were real little and we I don't know if you guys know where the kiddie park is, there's a big hill and that's the last time I went, cause I tell you what, I felt every bit of that in my back going down that big old hill. That's it. I'm done. Last time I went, I was a teenager and we went to Cane Park in Cleveland Heights and you know, they got a big and if you ever met anybody who's listening to ever been there, they got a big hill as you slide down on them, and I slid down and I wrecked my ass because the right the ride down was fun. But it's like when you get to the to the flat park, I'm like, no, I'm cool. I'm like this hurt. I ain't doing this no more. You never went slanting down. I want to tear you up. That was once and I was at uh. I was in a private school at the time, so you understand the demographics, correct was there they never never again, never did it before never never wife at the end. Uh yeah one of one time? Yeah yeah, and uh and we went to we went to Brandywine one so I don't know if that counts too, but that you know, sometimes I ain't brand but I you know, like I said, you know the demographic. I was in private school at the time, so how did you like brandywine. I ain't been a brandywine. Listen, I don't. I don't like real snow. I don't like fake No, I don't like winter stuff at all. It's a foreign thing for me that people like cold weather and snow. So what if you end up like with a wife who's like, likes to go out winter and the winter cabin and all that kind of stuff. Well, okay, if you don't get blasted with snowballs? Does so a cabin is sing inside? Like, I don't mind, not like a cabin a fireplace. You know, I can drink wine, wash TV. That's fine, but I'm not We don't need to go outside. What if she want to go outside? What if she want to go skin or even just sitting on one of them, on one of them what your calls I don't even know what they call it. Where they got it on the zip line and you outside? Oh, that would actually be pretty cool, you know what. I will compromise almost anything, you know, because I believe compromise is a healthy part of a relationship. I'm not compromising on that. Robert, watch this. I have a great question for you guys, Say, what if your wife says to you either you go out and do these winter activities with me, or I get to sit and talk to you and interrupt you during football season. Which one would you? You can sit and interrupt me all you want. You can sit and talk of talk all you from football season. He ain't gonna listen. Say you say you not can talk all you want to. This dude is a trip. Man. I can't wait till you get married. It's gonna be fun. I ain't doing that. Especially. I was like this this week. I mean old here and clear. I mean we had our temperatures were low, single digits and with the wind show they were negative. I'm not I don't want to be outside in that. Yeah, it was. It was a traditional Cleveland. But see if it's not like if it's not like how it has been, and it's the snowing outside like rough, fluffy snow like it is right now and it's not super cold out, no, I don't mind that. But if it was, yeah, I if you're outside too long or lose limbs, no, and we're not out there. What you think mankind did before there were houses? Right? Uh? Sat by fire? You? I mean we made fires, we survived. We all Shelter is the basic need of human life. Everybody, we we've always had shelter. But yeah, ain't nobody trying to be out say it's two degrees outside windshield negative fifteen. No no, no, yeah, no, no, no, not right now. No, that's crazy. We you really hope you don't get No, you don't get no girl that love this stuff, because you're gonna be in trouble. I wanted to make a joke so bad, but I'm not gonna do it. Oh oh yeah, I think I know I'm gonna do it with don't go there. All right, on that note, Now it's the time of the show that we like to go time with rope turned up, don't uptation, the latest celebrity news and gossip. It's tea time with Roe on the Outlaws Radio show. All right, y'all, So I got a couple of little stories for you. So the first one we're gonna go to is actually about Snoop Dogg's daughter, Corey Brotus if I pronounced her last name correctly. So she revealed that she recently suffered a stroke and she wasn't sure why or what happened, you know, but she's only twenty four years old, and it's I mean, it seems like that we are getting younger and younger and younger, and these things are happening. Like I've seen stories. I have a personal friend who is who that happened to as well, and they were in their twenties and they had a stroke and lost their sight for a few years. And I've seen yeah, I've seen other people saying the same thing. And they're all in their twenties and thirties. So it's like, what is going on? Yeah, you know, And first of all, I'm glad she's doing better, but it's crazy, man. And you know, Dante, I'm not no big h you know, hey, we got to change the whole world because of climate ray. I'm not one of those people, you know. I do believe it. I do believe it's world, but I don't think you can do anything about it. But there's clearly something in the atmosphere that's going on that's bringing on these you know, these things where you have people who are in their twenties having strokes and stuff. And we've seen like we've seen athletes like eighteen year olds, nineteen year olds running on the track and just drop die, you know what I mean, Like it's I don't know, it's something there's something going on out there that our parents didn't have to deal with. I put it like that. Yeah, you know what's crazy, man, is I think we talk a lot about you know, food not being natural and preservatives and you know, diets are not as healthy maybe as they once were. You know, God only knows what they're putting in the foods and stuff like that. We see stuff like that. I think our generation and I think if you under the age of like thirty five forty, you probably getting less sun, right because people don't go outside as much or right. I just I don't know at you know, so you're getting less vitamins and stuff naturally, your food is probably you know, with different antibiotics and preservatives and steroids. I mean we you know, we don't even know what organic is anymore. Right, And then the same you take and yeah, take things. You know, we have a living in a society now where everything is so focused on mental health. But in reality, man, people are more depressed, more stressed than they've ever been, you know, And so to me, I just you know a lot of people have these risk factors, but you don't really realize it until something happens because it's your day to day. Nor do you remember that story? I think it was like a do you remember that story? I think it was like a was it like an eighteen year old or a nineteen year old or something who was a he was a athlete and I think he was running track or something and he just dropped dead. Yeah. Yeah, And it's happening more and more and then, I mean, you know, back in the day, man, you people, you know, you say you smoke weed here and there. I mean even even just like smoking weed recreationally is more it's more dangerous than ever because you have no idea where it comes from unless you you know, unless you brought it from right, an actual dispensary, write something, or it's medicinal. But I mean, if you just barbra and I'm not saying that that's what happened in this case, but I'm just saying, like, just in general happened and you know, with people under the age of thirty five. But I mean, you just well and not only that, like even with that example that you just used, man, I don't know. I think we might have did a story years ago on this. But you know there's been even like with the with the stuff you go buy from the store if you if you're a weed smoker, like the THC, and some of that stuff is so high. They got issues in Colorado where these people going crazy, you know what I'm saying. So it's just ain't nothing natural anymore that we're dealing with. And then and the stuff that is you got to pay a million dollars to be able to get it. Yeah, it's just it's just crazy. Man. Were living in a in a in a crazy world and a lot of these people getting getting even crazier. Man, I don't know if y'all heard about what Klaus Schwab, who runs the World Economic Forum with this dude said where he said that, oh, we won't need elections anymore because everybody have a computer chip implanted in their brain and we'll know what y'all want already. What. That guy's a super villain if there ever was, if there was ever a real life Lex Luthor, it would be him. That guy's and somebody like, I don't, I don't want to say that, but like that guy is a real supervillain. The world is that this guy he bruh, That's exactly what I said on Twitter. I'm like, he sounds like a comic book yellain, Yeah, he's not a good person. Lock him up and throw y. I'm a very hesitant person when it comes to conspiracies and stuff like that. But when then when you see a guy like him talk and you hear him with that accent, it really makes you think, like, man, what if some of the conspiracy guys are not all the way crazy? Because this guy is a nut right right, who would say something like that? Just don't look But that's a whole that's a whole nother time, we're gonna and you know what, what that showed me to and people for people who like this kind of stuff, y'all love this, But that showed me. When I first saw that clip, I'm like what, because, yeah, I've heard about Klass, I've heard about the World Economic Form, but I ain't really paid that much attention to it. But when I heard that, I'm like, Okay, I need to do a deep dive. So later on in one of these future episodes of the show, we are going to do a deep dive on that. So y'all, y'all love that but in the meantime, next m So the next topic is this one we all should know, as I brought up when we were off air, we all should know how this goes because we've had it happen and just anyway, So, concert goers sue Madonna for starting her New York City show two hours late. The lawsuit states that they had to get up early for work the next day. Now, I did see you know, comments and stuff of people saying, well, if you knew you had plans to go to a concert, you're not supposed to, you know, schedule yourself where you don't have to go to work the next day. But the thing is is, like I get that you are a performer, but the thing is is that's your job. You're supposed to show up to your job on time. Two hours late. These people are coming to see you perform, and you have a scheduled set time. Like this has happened way too often with a lot of artists shows that we've gone to, you know, to interview or just to be present. You know, we get invited to events and stuff like that, and where it's where a lot of artists have shown up an hour or an hour and a half later, and it's like, Okay, what the heck is going on? People are getting rowdy, you know. I mean, it's just it's the same thing if we go to work, our boss is gonna be like you late, you know what I mean. So why does it make them any different? Yeah, So two things on that, well three things. One I completely agree. Two, it seems like there's because some of these artists there's a lack of respect for other people's time, you know what I mean. If I paid to see you, no, I don't expect you to be out there right at eight o'clock on the dot. I know that, I know it doesn't work like that, but two hours, you know, that's ridiculous. And then the third thing is, well Robin was kind of alluding to is that we almost got into a melee at a concert once. It was so many people there, the performer was late, people was getting rowdy, and then Robin was close to the stage trying to get in the head and everything. Okay, people was getting it away and all of this, and so after right after the concert was over. Uh. CJ Cobb, who you're familiar with the show, you've heard him on here before. CJ. Cobb was with us, and you know, he's a former football player, tall dude or whatever. And I'm like, hey, you see Robin. I'm like, I'm like, grab her and let's get the bleep outy climbed over the whole crowd grau, and we got out of there because I'm like, man, it's about to get crazy up beer now. Somebody rushed the stage that night. Remember that Robin, Oh, you mean the off brand, the dude who was dressed like Nelly from back in the day. Yeah, he had the whole band aid under his iron everything. Yeah, he thought like, well maybe if I look like her, maybe I can get it. Yeah. No, that was a disaster. So yeah, so no, we we understand how these things go. So Dante, would you this this is the one part I'm struggling with. So like, okay, and I guess it depends on how much money I paid. So if the artist is two hours late, do you stay in wait or do you leave? Well, I wouldn't know because, as you guys know, the only events that I go to like that where I'm I'm paying for entertainment or sporting events. I'm not going to a concert because of this very thing, right, And Plus y'all know I don't like big crowds, So the sporting event, I ain't going. What's that magic Johnson? Mean, I'm not gonna be here, but but I do sympathy because I could only imagine that. I mean that for me, Like in my world, that would be like, you know, I'm going or I'm going to the Cavs game and it's supposed to start at eight o'clock, but they don't start till you know, nine thirty or ten o'clock. And it's a Wednesday, so suppose you know what I mean, Like, yeah, it cant like yeah, Like you can say, well you had to go to work in the morning, that ain't no right. But if I'm going to a cash game, it's supposed to start at seven thirty, eight o'clock, Like I'm expecting to be out of there about ten thirty. I can be home by eleven, you know what I'm saying, Like that ain't no big deal versus you know, you starting at ten thirty when I thought, you know, now I'm getting home at one o'clock. You know, that's totally different. So yeah, I would be I would be highly upset, but it would be hard to leave if I know, you know what I'm saying, Like I paid this money, I'm gonna be I don't know, man, I'm that's tough. I don't know. I'd because I absolutely and what's what's his name? Big worm? Oh yeah? And with my money is like playing with my emotions, Like stop playing with me. No, I'd be furious. And then I don't know if y'all ever if y'all ever went to when they used to have this club called Peabodies back in the day, right now, I only went to these shows a couple of times because of stuff like this when and I think this was I think this was right before I started my radio station. So this was like two thousand and four or five something like that, something around there, right, And so I knew a dude that I had grew up with. He was rapping or whatever, and they were supposed to be doing a show at pea Bodies, and so we're like, all right, cool. So I came in like I just started my label at the time, and I'm in my I'm in my full hood the glory at the time. So we come in like ten deep, got a T shirt phone with logo warn and all the due rags on and all of that, because it's me two thousands, right, So we roll up to this concert deep to support my dude. We had the concert, it's hours before this dude show up. Before this dude gets on stage, it's like four hours. Because what peabodies used to do is they would book a major artist and then book like twenty independent artists that you never heard of and make them pay to get on the stage. So they would be like, all right, you get ten you can you can perform at this night that I don't know the diplomats are, are there Cameron or something. You can perform on the same show as him, but you got to pay us X amount of dollars and then you make your money back by reselling the tickets. That was the model, that's how they used to do it. But they would do that, they would get that same thing to like twenty people. So you end up with this showed us like five hours long, and it was at the dude that we came there to see didn't get on stage until the very end, like even after the headliner. I was like, oh hell no, I'm like I never do it. And the headliner was late on top of that, so it was like a five hour night. Wow, yeah my instinct, I'm like, no, idea. I went to one more show after that because they used to give us. They used to give us free tickets. After I started my radio station, they used to give us tickets to give away. So we would get the tickets away or whatever and people would go and I went to one of the shows or whatever after that. But then one of the tickets that we gave away, the guy that we gave it away to, he goes to the uh he goes to see and I think it was a diplomat. He goes to the door and prebody is. They try to charge him anyway, even though he got a free ticket in his hand and they know it's a free ticket and they know it's really on it. So after that, I was like, no, I'm just cool. So you got yankie yankie promoters too that, you know what I mean, try to screw people. But it was Peabody's concerts were known to be like that. It was like four and five hours long, and if the and if the headliner was late, it was even longer than that. It was awful. So like people will start getting rowdy like yeah, because they like, we're right, because they like, where the hell is the person that I paid to see it? Like, So I'm not a big concert person either. I'm not completely anti them like Dante is, but I'm not a big concert person either. I have to say, I will say this. I've seen jay Z three times. It's his concert was really good. As a matter of fact, one of those concerts I just didn't even say. I don't even know if you have permission to save this anymore. But I did see him and R Kelly together when they was doing when they was doing the Actually it was right it was the week before it fell apart, because you know, jay Z and R Kelly fell out in the middle of that tour. They was in Cleveland and then they went from Cleveland to New York and I think it was the New York show when they fell out. So we saw them right before they fell out. But yeah, it was a good concert. I'm sorry, no get back. My favorite type of concerts are actually more so like nineties R and B because I mean, people aren't they aren't rowdy, and they aren't pushy. Like I've been to a few of them. I've even gone to like Drew Hill, Like it's not too bad, like going to their type of concerts, but when it's something that's more you know, like Lady Gaga, uh, you know jay Z, people tend to get really rowdy and you know, like you remember those concerts like what a couple of years ago, a couple of years ago where people were getting trampled and stuff. You know, people were like bum rushing and stuff. So like that's yeah, so like they got to take that into consideration. Like you know, some people ain't got no patience first and foremost, Like yeah, I'll get mad, but like there's people that will like go above and beyond uh just getting mad, you know what I mean. So like they need to take that into consideration. I just find it disrespectful, like to waste people's time, because that's the one thing you don't get bad, like not waste my time, especially if I'm paying to see you, right, And let's just let's let's be honest. You wouldn't be nobody if it wasn't for the people, the people, if it wasn't for your Yeah, like you wouldn't have these concerts if it wasn't for the people that's coming to see you absolutely no doubt. Next, So the next one is going to be more so of a topic for Darvo and Dante. But I'm bringing it up because that's love. But so, the entire Sports Illustrated staff was notified of a mass layoff following termination of the magazine's publishing agreements, and they're basically I'm sorry. So they were basically saying, like, is this the end of the Sports Illustration. So first of all, I just want to point out not that she said that like a like a true woman that pays no attention to sports because she says illustration. I'm a supportive woman. That's you know, I'm supportive. But yeah, I mean this is it's actually and Dane, Dante and I was talking about this a little bit before the show starts. It's actually bad for the culture. It's bad for and I mean the culture of the country. Sports Illustrated, even though quality has went down a little bit in the last few years, but Sports Illustrated has been known as like a high quality journalistic product, like it wasn't just for people who want to know how many catches did so and so have at the football game yesterday, because you can you can see that on one within two seconds. Now, that's that's not the value of Sports Illustrated. The value of Sports Illustrated is the quality of the journalism that they bring in, the stories that they bring that you wouldn't know of otherwise. And and I say this as somebody who writes for a legacy news outlet. You know what I mean. For those of you who don't know I write, you know, I'm an opinion contributor at Newsweek and so or someone as someone who writes one of those type of brands, because I've viewed Sports Illustrated in that same vein, at that same level. It's a legacy brand that has a history of high quality journalism. I think it's bad for the country. Now, granted, they may from what I read, the owners may have another company. They may find another company to manage the brand so that it doesn't go away. But anytime you have a situation like this, you have uncertainty, and when uncertainty creeps in, you have no idea what's going to happen. Right, But it is. I think it's an It's another example of the world in which we live, Like people have no idea what to trust, They have no idea who to trust. They have no idea what a reliable sources, what aren't reliable sources. And just frank, there's a lot of bad journalism out there, just period, you know what I mean, Whether it's in sports, whether it's in news, whether it's in politics, whether it's in any any form of news that you can think of, from entertainment news to political news. There is a lot of bad journalism out there. And Sports Illustrated and they've had their issues, they've definitely had their issues, but the brand, the value of the brand has been a high quality journalism from a sports perspective, and anytime you lose something like that, I think it hurts. I think it hurts the country. Tell your thoughs, Yeah, I mean so, I'll My perspective on SI is as obviously all of you know, a diehard sports fan and somebody who really man. From the time that I was probably six seven, I wanted to be a sports writer. I wanted to be a sports writer and then use that to become a sports broadcaster. My first three year or so years in college was due to was me trying to I was in journalism school. Basically, I put it to you that way, like I wanted to internships. Everything was geared around trying to be a journalist, and so Sports Illustrated was one of those legacy brands that I looked at as this is high quality sports journalism, right, I can trust this, I can read this, whether it was you know, Peter King's Monday Morning Quarterback or you know different you know, even a guy like Lee Jenkins who and this is just this was right Lee Jenkins. Remember who Lebron went to when he broke the story that I'm coming home, I'm coming back to Cleveland. He he told that to Lee Jenkins. Lee Jenkins wrote that he's in Sports Illustrated. This is twenty fourteen, So I mean this is I mean not you know, twenty fourteen is still almost well it is about ten years ago now, but I mean that's how far we've come so in you know, print media was dying back then. So it's just sad. It's a sad day for somebody like me who at one point in my life wanted to go down that path. But it's also a heroin reminder too, as like, you know, don't ever become a dinosaur or whatever business you're in, right, So legacy print media never wanted to adapt. They never wanted to adapt. It took a long time for sports writers and colonists to adapt to television, and then it took even longer for a lot of legacy media to adapt to the internet, right, and even still today you'll see a lot of print news it's very clunky with how they manage paywalls and how their websites look out dated. They never wanted to adapt. And so, to steal a line from Evolution, the wrestling branded the wrestling faction, evolution, you either adapt or you perish. And a lot of we see a lot of what we would consider trusted journalists, trusted journalism going by the wayside, right when, like we talked about off air, when's the last time you read you sat down, not watched, but sat down and read a really good investigative journalism piece. It's been a long time, right sports or otherwise, And so uh, you know, and then you know, we talk about we understand, right, a lot of venture capital firms come in and they strip things down to the studs and they just try to turn it around to make a profit, which which doesn't help. And that's happened with SI before as well. So I mean, it's just a sad day for somebody like you know, for somebody like me who you know, growing up, I can remember, you know, in two thousand and two seeing Ohio, seeing the Ohio State having beat Miami on the cover, and you know, just being so happy because you watch the game and then maybe a couple of days later, you see, you know, whether you're in the grocery store or something, you see Ohio State beating Miami. Right, it was I think it was like the best damn team in the land, right because the Ohio State's band is the best damn band. So you know, being like six or seven at the time, it's like, man, this is great, right, that's that's my favorite team on the cover. Or like Lebron when he was on on the cover when he was in high school, right with that famous Chosen One picture where it was like wow, you know, he was like sixteen at the time on the cover of Sile was a big deal. And then you know, fast forward, like I said, in twenty fourteen, you know the whole I'm coming home thing, which was crazy for the city of Cleveland. Right, Lebron came back and we won a championship. So I mean, it's just been something to me to reflect all day on and just be like wow, but you can, you know, you can see really where print media went wrong in a lot of places, especially legacy print media. And I want I think a lot of people thought that, you know, they were invincible to the change, right. I think about another magazine, like you know in Darby you're not a big box fan, but you know Ring Magazine. You know, I'm not right garbage right, But you didn't you never adapted, right, And so now when people talk about Ring Magazine, it's always like, hey, remember that cover from the eighties, or like remember when we did this interview with Marvin Hagler in eighty three. It's like, wow, you don't have you know, it's twenty twenty four. Oh wow. You know, there's never when you're talking about print media, you're never looking forward. And so that's just something from somebody who you know, was very close to going down that path. It's like, you know, a very fortunate that I didn't, and but b it's it's also kind of sad because you know, as somebody who liked to write and somebody who came up in that and dark I know you agree like you, sometimes you just miss being able to read good good journalism or yeah, or sometimes you just miss being able to read like a like where's a good sports writer? Or where's a good opinion piece? Right? It's political? Yeah, but who writes a good column? Does anybody write a good column today? Like what happened to that? So you know, it's sad to me at least? Well, and it's absolutely and like I said, it's sad to me too it and it hits even more acutely because I write for a legacy media outlet and everything that you said is the things that I try to do in my writing. And you know, I try to have that quality of writing because you know, I went to college for this too, you know what I mean. So you understand the value of it, You understand the importance of it. And when people have this conversation now about whether it's about misinformation or disinformation or fake news or whatever, it's because people don't know who to trust. Yep, you know what I mean. Because there's a lot of bad journalism out there. And the unfortunate thing with a lot of these legacy media outlets is that, like you said, they didn't some of them didn't keep up with the times, they didn't adapt, and then some of them also allowed the quality of their journalism to decline. Sports Illustrated itself has had some issues with that absolutely over the last few years, you know what I mean. So the thing that people have to understand and and I will say this is just from knowing the knowing the history, because news we had to go through the transitions like that as well. And they're profitable now, so it's not impossible to be a print media outlet and be profitable, right. But here's the thing. You can't do what everybody else does. And I think a lot of the legacy media outlets were so slow to adapt that. Then when they tried, they just tried to be click farms like everybody else, right, And that doesn't work because you can get that from every from anybody else. Right. What works, and this is this is some free game for y'all who are listening, is high quality product because you can't get that everywhere else. Right. You can get low grade blog work anywhere, You can get that anywhere. You can get second rate commentary anywhere. But stuff that makes you think, those are the things that make you successful. Those are the things that make people want to say, I want to read this because I can't get it from Joe blow sports site down the street. One of the things that I respect about The Athletic is that the Athletic has tried to do that. There's the reason why they got bought recently by the parent company of The New York Times, right because regardless of how you feel about the opinions of The New York Times, and they're slanted because they are slanted, they are biased most of the time, they still have a high quality of work. Yep, you know what I mean. So the it's we need I think in journalism in general, in general, and this is this is why I like the Sports Illustrated Conversation because I think it's a it's a microcosm of the issues in journalism period. In journalism across the board, there needs to be an increase of the level of quality of the product so that you're actually learning something when you read these things. There's there are articles that I have read that other people have written who are not trying to produce high quality work that I feel dumber for having read. The artic. It's like I feel dumb for reading this. You know what I mean, Like, we need to raise the quality of journalism. And the only way that that works is these legacy media outlets have to get their bleep together because regardless of what anybody says, regardless of what anybody says about these media outlets dying, about these media outlets being dead, people still respect them. Oh yeah, there's a certain cash with the name that you know, there's a certain cachet with the New York Times, with the walls you know in Sports, Sports Illustrated. Yep, there was a certain there's a certain cache that comes with that, no doubt, no doubt. I mean, I can tell you personally. I know my writing career, which was just really a supplement to my other media. Like I wasn't a full time writer. I'm still not a full time writer. But my writing career changed when I got to Newsweek. Mm it matters. It matters. When I got to Newsweek and I started writing articles in Newsweek, you started seeing real clear politics picking up my articles. You started seeing stuff like that happening. That was how I got before they started allowing you to buy the blue checks. That's how I got my blue checks at Twitter and Instagram was because I wrote for Newsweek. Yeah, there's so there's still a certain level of cashet, like you said, that comes from these legacy outlets. So at the end of the day, it's important that these legacy outlets get it together because in certain corners of the country, whether you agree with it or not, these are the only outlets these people respect. It matters. It matters when CNN does something, for example, right So that's why it's not good that CNN is so bad right now, That's why it's not good that these that these legacy media outlets are so bad and and and nobody trusts them. That hurts the country. When you don't have have the Walter Cronkites, when you don't have a source that people can trust and say, I know they telling me the truth. That's how you get all this craziness out here. And that's the same things as sports and I say, you notice, and we'll close the segment on this. How many times do athletes complain about sports journalists? It's the same. It's the same issue, no matter what the what, the what the entity is, no matter what the genre is, that's the word I'm looking for. No matter what the genre is, it's the same problem bad journalists. Yep. How many times have we heard athletes complain about that a bunch? And now you know they're skipping the fourth of state altogether and doing it themselves exactly on podcast their own shows. Right, they don't, they don't need them no more. But in reality, I think you do because I think like when I talk about you know, Lebron's letter to Cleveland when he was coming back home. You know, as you know, Lebron can can speak his mind and stuff like that, but it's always nice to have a trained writer to be able to talk, right, And that Lee Jenkins wrote I'm coming home piece it was it wrote it read like a love letter to northeast Ohio. It was beautiful. It's amazing. It's like, yeah, you can do a podcast and just say yeah, I'm on my way back, like, but it's something about that, you know that print form, even though you know that was online, but it's something about that. It's like, these words jump off the page because this is a really good writer telling your story exactly. And not only that well, and not only that, and and we'll cause that this because I want to get your opinion on this. Not only that, but a lot of times, you know, when the athletes started doing their own media content that that itself causes its own issues sometimes, So like how many times has it been an issue where like Draymond is playing a game and then he goes right from the game to his podcasts and people and people start asking questions, well, did you really care that much about the game or do you care more about podcast? So that that rate that causes even more issues. Yeah, it's a yeah, and I think there's some good in that so that these guys can get straight, you know, can get their point across. But then you know, it does some harm too, and I don't think you know, it's it's just a sad day for somebody who grew up actually, you know, really like us, we cared about this profession a lot, right, right, and it's just a it's like wow, man, you really see the times change. And unfortunately a lot of these legacy companies decided that they you know, I don't think they realized in a moment right like this, it could either be your downfall or it it could be a detriment, right or you know, it could be your downfall or it could be to your benefit. I mean right. You need to you need to get on this ship because you know, the Internet was coming no matter what. Yep, that's right, was coming, right, So you can either adapt with it or you can die. And unfortunately they died right. And and this is the last thing I'll say on this, and this is the issue that we see though, is the Internet has been a gift and a curse. Right. The gift is that anybody can get access. The curse is that anybody can get access. So you'll have you know, shows like ours, for example, where you know elected officials listen to the show, like people who make this who make decisions in power listen to this show as well as the everyday person. That's the kind of quality of product we put out there, right, People know we have intelligent conversations about things that matter every every show. Don't do that though. It's a lot of stupid shows out there doing stupid stuff and just chasing drama and clicks and and trafficking in all of this nonsense that's hurting the the climate and hurting the quality of our conversations. And so that's the benefit and the drawback of the Internet. The benefits of the Internet is that y'all get to hear people like us. You get to we get to get access. But the drawback is people who are just trying to manipulate you for profit get access as well. And and so it's unfortunate, man, It's just it's it's not good. These companies got to figure this out. They got to figure this stuff out. They got to figure these things out, like like Newsweek did. I'm not just using that because I'm there, but i mean, go look it up up their history. They had hard times too, they had troubles too, and they figured it out. You got to figure this this out because we need we need high quality journalism. We need those brands that people used to trust and we need them to trust. We need people to be able to trust them again. People got to know where to go. All right, stay tuned. We have Dante's Hot Taks coming up next here on the Outlaws. These days, it seems like everybody's talking, but no one is actually listening to the things they're saying. Critical thinking isn't dead, but it's definitely low on oxygen. Join me, Kira Davis on just listen to yourself every week as we reason through issues big and small, critique our own ideas and learn to draw our talking points all the way out to their logical conclusions. Subscribe to Just Listen to Yourself with Kira Davis and FCB Radio podcasts on Apple, on Spotify, iHeart, or wherever you get your podcasts, True say welcome back and listen to the Outlaws. Make sure that you subscribe to the show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, iHeart, or wherever you get your podcasts. And if you listen to the show on Apple, please make sure you leave us a five star review. And the comment is very important for the algorithm and for those of you who've already done so, thank you, oh so very much. And that was the time to show that we like to call it Dante's Hot takes, telling the truth. Whether you like it or not, it's Dante's Hot Takes on the out Lawns Radio show. Well, vivek Ramswami, after a very poor performance in Iowa, decided to suspend his campaign this week and within what will we say, twenty four hours, twelve to twenty four hours, he was stumping hard for Trump. That's to be you know, that wasn't unexpected. We understood right that he was essentially just trying to be an Indian version of Trump. I guess you could say discount Trump. He would appreciate that joke, you know that. You know he's told some seven eleven jokes and we won't do that. But he he ran a very cringe campaign, I would say throughout. But one thing that really stood out to me was there were some focus groups in Iowa that this is just funny to really process. There were some focus groups in Iowa that were caught and several people came out and said things like I didn't feel comfortable with him because of his skin tone, or I didn't feel comfortable based on his last name. Another guy said, I can't pronounce his last name. Another person, a woman, said, how do we know that he has no connection to nine to eleven? Right? And to me, I just found the irony to be sort of funny in this that vivec ran a very He brushed up with racism multiple times. He ran a campaign that was so focused on anti woke and uh really brown nosing a lot of some of the fringe parts of the magabase that we've talked about on the show that make us very uncomfortable. So it's just funny to me that after all of that, that part of the reason why he performed so poorly was because those same people that he was brown nosing trying to cozy up to don't even realize that he's not Middle Eastern. They had no idea. They saw him as basically and you know, this is a joke, they saw him as just another you know what. So for us, I mean, you know, he he came on the show, and I to this day, I still will say I respect the fact that he came into the lions Den and did our show. I respect that there are some other candidates who did not. But I guess we'll talk about that later on a different show. But yeah, I just you know, I to me, I thought that there was a lot of irony in that, and I thought that his statement immediately afterwards saying, how you know, it was kind of hurtful to find that out, and he was sort of taken aback and surprised by it. And my only thing is why you spent the last twelve months sort of kissing up to these people? Right? You spent the better part of your campaign pretending as though you aren't a minority, as though people wouldn't see you as what you are, a minority who is going to draw some higher from the very people who you need, some not all some, So you know, don't forget who you are. Man. You you can you can play to a base, you can stand on your principles. But a lot of his stick to me, felt cartoonish, and I think people saw right through and I think that was you know that along with you know, some of the things that we heard come out of some of those focus groups from the from the caucing sessions in Iowa played a big part of his demise. Yeah, you know, I tweeted about this, like, that's the thing about racism is when you're a minority, no matter how much you try to pretend that racism doesn't exist or it's not impactful, real racist will show you otherwise. Because at the end of the day, and I felt like that when he accepted the endorsement of former Rep. Steve King, who is an open bigot. The thing that you don't realize no matter how cool you are with them or how cool you try to be with them, that ain't gonna make them like you. If they're racist. If they're racist, they just all they see is your brown skin. And so having someone who is here because their family came to the country as a result of the opening of the immigration laws, which happened as a result of the Civil Rights Act, well with the Civil rights movement. Excuse me. The Civil Rights Act was in sixty four. The opening of the immigration laws happened in sixty five, the year after. It was all part of that same wave. So it's almost like, you know, Nikki Haley to come here as a result of benefiting from the things that black people have sacrificed for, and then the slap in the face when you get here or when you when or your child slaps him in the face, that's the issue. But sometimes you have to have a wake up call. He is, what thirty eight, he's a year older than me, and he's you know that that is extremely young in politics, right in the political world. I mean were about to were about to choose between two eighty year olds. So so thirty eight is that's a baby in in the political world. And I think, I don't know how much exposure he's handling these issues that maybe he really believes that, oh well, it's not a problem. Look at me, you know, A lot of people get caught up in that. When you've had a certain level of success as a minority, you say, oh, well, this can't be a problem. Look at me, Look at how I'm doing, Look at I'm benefiting, you know what I mean. Like, but then you get that real wake up call, right yeah, where they think they like, I'm not going for you because I don't like your last name and I think you an Arab, Right, yeah, that's that's racist, my brother. And here's the thing what people used to understand, like, for example, Nikki Hayley's parents who benefited from black people when they came here. Her father came here to work at an HBCU. Just for the record, what that generation used to understand and what the generations after them, what many of them seem to not understand, is you better stick together because a racist is a racist is a racist. If they don't like black people, they probably don't like brown people either. If they're suspicious of us, most of the time, they're suspicious of you. Two. You are a brown skin Hindu with a funny lasses exactly. People who are racist gonna have a problem with that. And now he got to see and I don't know how much. Because I didn't see that statement Dante that you reference. I don't know how much. It's a really has sunk to him, like if he's really had the epiphany or not. But like, racism cost you votes no matter what you did, no matter how comfortable you try to make those people feel. They chose not to vote for you out of racism. So maybe this is the first time. This might be the first time in the next life that he has lost something because of who he is. Maybe he's never felt that way before. Maybe this has never happened before to him. Wake up, be right. I tried. I tried to dance around that earlier. You know that that you know still a blank, but you know, wake up. They all the look, we're all in the same boat. Brother. At the end of the day, a racist is a racist man. And so I hope this is a wake up Carse. I hope it is. Let him. How to follow you, sir. Follow me on Instagram and Twitter at tay Bride t A E B R y E. Mister O'Malley. 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