This is the FCB Podcast Network. Great thing when they trunk jump foot change at ton dun We don't listen to y'all this d hot We don't listen to y'all this d hotel. Make them scream out Now, I gotta sound due because the rockets in the Crown. Tune in the charge for the outdo tune in the charge for the out duk. Welcome to the Outlaws. This is Darth yod King Baymorrow alongside Robin O'Malley and Donte Brian. Don't forget too Like us on Facebook at facebook dot com slash the Outlaws Radio. Follow us on Twitter or x and Instagram at the Outlaws Radio. We have a very special interview that we're gonna get to, uh and just a little bit, but first a couple of little pieces of house cleaving before go to my co hosts. First of all, some of you may be aware of the fact that this show went viral again from the last episode from the story that Robie told about what was going on with her daughter at a local hospital, and I mean the story went international. Like first of all, right, now, the clip from that episode is at one hundred and fifteen thousand views, on Twitter slash x. Also, the story was covered in the Daily Mail in the UK. It was also covered in the Daily Telegraph out of Australia, and there was an outlet I believe in Quebec, Canada that covered it as well, which is crazy. We hit the Apple, we hit the Apple podcast charts, and I'm sure that you know O'Malley had something to do with that. So shout out to shout out to the higher than listeners. We absolutely appreciate it. So yeah, it's been uh, it's been crazy. It's been a crazy few days because again the show came out. We're taking this on a Friday. It came out last Saturday, so it hasn't even been seven days. Hasn't been seven days yet, and you know, in less than a week, one hundred and fifteen thousand views on on Twitter and coveraging the Daily Mail and the Daily Telegraphs and all the other places that it's had, so mess oballely, you've had a week. Yes, it's definitely been quite the ride. It's definitely been quite the ride. It's been up and down, up and down. And yeah, receiving that news was insane, and you know, with that going viral and whatnot we have had. I have had a lot of positive messages, people supporting me and just telling their story, and I am grateful to even be in this place where I can give people that spot to be able to be comfortable enough to speak on their story. I've also had a lot of not so nice comments where people said, you know, calling me a bad mom and all kinds of things, and it was a little triggering. But you know what one thing I can say is the bad comments, you know, they're they're actually also helping that clip go viral. So shout out to you haters, I appreciate. Yeah, if I tell you, no, being worried about they don't matter. But the good thing is that there were more way more positive comments than negative, and really thinking that there are people who are like, hey, this has happened to me, or this just happened to my kid, and you know, I felt like I couldn't say anything about it. I think like that was probably the most impactful thing. That it was almost like you gave a voice to those to those moms who had been in those similar situations and didn't really know what to do. I agree, Yeah, there's I mean, and one thing I do want to say is that I've had a couple of people say to me that it's more so girls than boys that's getting asked those questions, which is it makes it even worse. That is absolutely bizarre to me. They need to get that together, right, absolutely, and U hopefully they'll get it together because you didn't say who the hospital was, but we know who the hospital was, so uh that hospital, and I'm sure they may have a representative or two listening at this point. You probably want to get your stuff together. Just a suggestion. Dante walking back, sir, we're back. We were back. It took you a minute come back. You had to mic mut it. I had to mic mut it. Yeah, we uh we miss a lot. Man, it's been a week, I see, but uh, you know, I like calm and stable, so I'll pass on the week that Robin half for sure like he was like in my he was like in Miami when all this stuff broke out, We was looking for your ass. I think probably should have named the hospital personally, but that's just I told her. I understand why why she didn't at the time, probably in hindsight, if she hadn't known the story was gonna get this big. She probably would have she would have reconsidered that. Well, she got some conversations, she got to have first let her Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know, we'll see if we have to do that. But you know I told her, I was like, man, like, if you had to say the name of the hospital, man, it would have been a bunch of suburban moms with picket signs and all that protested that in the front of that door in that hospital, man. Because these moms when that story dropped, these moms were up set. Hey with some dads too, some dads too. Oh absolutely, yeah, I know some dads had to be upset because I know I would have been if I had what Oh could you imagine? No, you spent all that time cultivating this with your child and and trying to keep your child's innocence, and the doctor said what what how do you respond in that situationation? What would you do? Thank God, we hopefully we will never find out. I don't want to know. I really don't. I know I would be I would be furious, though, Oh my god, oh my god, I would be. My daughter had looked at them and she goes, yo, like you really said that? Yo. She was like what. And I'm just like, yeah, don't worry about it, that's for sure. But now it's just like it's crazy because and Robin, I think you mentioned this on the show. You know, she got about having like a tablet and all of that. But now you got to make sure you got the kids safe, the kid proof stuff for all of that. You gotta put everything saying on the air so they had a wandering mind, don't get curious and start looking at stuff, looking up stuff, staying on a business looking at you gotta have all the filters and all that stuff, you know, And it's already yeah that, and it's like it's already, it's already crazy because these kids, now you know, they have this, They have the Internet right in the palm of their hands, you know, YouTube for example, and so a lot of the times where you have to be like, hey, yo, you can't watch that or don't watch that. So now you have to put the parental control on there because people tend to target these kids with these so called children type of videos, and so they'll make it out to be like it's for kids, Like they'll act out scenes and stuff of the sort. So it's like you already have to protect them from things like that. And then when you go to a place like a hospital where you're you're thinking that they're going to they're there to care for your child and protect your child type of thing, and it's like, dang, you just like why I don't understand why they're trying to sexualize these children. It just don't make no sense to me. Like I've seen, you know, one clip or think something on TikTok where it said that one doctor was saying that it's okay, like as of nine year olds are safe to can safely carry for a pregnancy, and it's like what, like have you lost your mind? Why having that conversation? Like they still climb in your bed and mommy, I don't feel good, And mommy, can I have a hug? And you know, can I go to a splash pad? Like what No, that's what they come on. Now, come on, have some common sense, like y'all don't smack your damn head looking looking with suspicion that every little boy as already do already do listen, since both my kids were little, like I've had you know, I've already had other kids and other people. I'm already very cautious like that with my kids. But like I said, she's already not She's already bigger than an average ten year old, so I have to already be like if she has a bathing suit on, No, you have to wear shorts and you have to wear a shirt. You gotta be covered. I don't like to take her into public, you know, and her just be exposed like that, because there's already there's a lot of sick individuals out here, and to take a child to a hospital, you wouldn't even expect them to be sick individuals as well. Right, Yeah, no, that was wild. That was wild. So if y'all are not aware of the story, you must be living under a rock. But first go listen to last week's episode. That will catch you up. Also, we have the Daily Mail article on on Outlaws page on Twitter slash x at the Outlaws Radio, so just go to the social media account and you'll see it. All right. So we have a special interview that we'll get to right now. All right, we have a very special guest on the show today. He is the CEO of the Greater Cleveland Film Commission, Bill Garvey. Welcome back, How are you doing sir good, are you good? Good? So it's been a while since we talked. There's so many things to catch up on. First for people who may not be aware. Catch people up on what has happened with the tax credit. Well, we were successful in getting the program that is the basis on which all this production comes to Ohio to increase by almost doubles. So it expanded by eighty seven, so we're up to five million a year and that's basically a thirty percent rebate that production comes when it comes to Ohio and gets to create jobs here. So what that translates to is a lot more work, a lot more jobs, a lot more investment into small businesses for the entire state. And we've been very fortunate that we've been able to secure about sixty seventy percent of that work to come to Northeast Ohio on average every year, and this year we were able to book one hundred and forty seven just over one hundred and forty seven million dollars worth of total production budget to choose Northeast. So really exciting time to be in this business in Northeast Ohio. But it also means that we need to coach up some new talent, new blood to come into this business because there are jobs, you know, and there's existence better and crew that takes these jobs. But we need more so get the word out that there's more opportunity than ever in Northeast go high. Okay, you know what, let's uh, let's dig a little bit more into that. I have a question for you on basically how they the climate and the environment has changed since that taxing, since the tax credit went up, But we'll get to that in the second. I want to really spend some time on what you just said, because obviously that's important. Talk about what what is the need? What exactly is the need as far as the workforce is concerned, now that we have this increase of the tax credit and these influx of projects, what what's the need? Right? So on any average project, there's you know, one hundred people, two hundred people, three hundred people working on that. Right. So each movie that comes, each TV show, that means opportunity for locals because there's an incentive for producers to hire local, right it costs more money to bring in their talent rather than to hire all the folks that are right here in the spot where they're already. So what that means is, you know, we've really dug into workforce development training and we offer a lot of free resources on our website cicil dot com to train up on the basic skills that you need to get these jobs. So the correction assistant is the first job that all of us in the movie business UH entered the business through. And you know, learning the paperwork and the scheduling and the budgeting involved in putting the building blocks of a movie together. That's the big foundation on which you build a career in this business. So you know, it's amazing, like, yes, you need to know what the camera does and have it composed a shot, but ultimately your first job isn't based on that, it's based on paper. It is a business. So going forward, if we expanded the capacity to to attract this business by double, that means that we need double the crew for these jobs. So a big, big need in the next year. We have some high profile jobs coming, but many more you know, run of the mill jobs, and it takes all comus, all kinds of production we want coming here. We want to support local filmmaking as well as the big stuff. It runs the gamut and you know, just like you know anybody else get in this business. I didn't know anybody. I didn't have an uncle willing to hire me, and that was a producer. I had to get in on the ground level and work my way up the ranks. And that's what we want to provide a catholate for locals. So check out our resource page on bingfilm dot com. Also coming up presses running a workshop Approaching System Workshop June seventh for the ninth a really good program, low cost where they're teaching that work as well all the paperwork involvement in the movie business. But ultimately we want more people going into this industry creating career out of it because it's an industry that's more than doubled in the amount of money spent every year. You see movies around the world and at that time, you know where there's two hundred and forty three billion dollars being spent to make movies every year. We want as much of that coming year, and now we have more capacity to grow that. So that's an opportunity to want everybody. All right, So, so talk a little bit about what you've seen since the since the tax credit increase, the growth of the projects, more projects wanting to look at Cleveland, people who might have been interested to shoot there before, but the tax credit will be would run out and they wouldn't be able to talk a little bit about the change that you've seen in the industry locally. Since that tax credit is increased, well, it's just about to increase. It hasn't actually so July versus when it doesn't, so we haven't experienced that growth yet. That one hundred and forty seven million in total production budget booked is with the old CAP, so we're actually talking about even more once the new PAP goes into play. Wow. But over the last couple of years we've lost two hundred and eighty nine million dollars worth of production budget that actually applies protect Centerve and doesn't get it because we've run out of CAP. So now we have more of a capacity to accept more applicants, you know. So this is a business that is growing. Obviously, the streaming wars have led to more spending on production and more of a willingness to go to new new production states like Ohio, and that that's why our industry has grown. That's why there's three hundred productions filmed here over the last fifteen years of the Texas On program. So you know, it's a good time. It's the sciting time to be part of this, and you know it's a good time to you know, be providing these opportunities and this train and I go back to the training because it's not that you necessarily have to have a master's degree to get into this business. You know, it's an old school apprenticeship type business. So there's a lot of good education going on to train towards these jobs. CSU Film School is doing great work, the Price is doing great work. There's all the colleges that are tangentially training on the type of skill sets that goes into this business, like CIA and training graphic design kind of stuff. Kent State has a good program. Their sound design is an amazing program there. You know, Ball the Wells Great Performing Arts School. So a lot of these schools are training on this. But then we're also you know, kind of connecting that with potential opportunity with our training as well on corruption assistant training, screenplay writers' workshops. We just did an art department workshop last fall, so all these specialty departments, you know, we try to connect people with opportunities there and training that will go into a crew and then ultimately all these jobs they're you know, eighty percent of the business our union jobs. So union you know, translates to pension and healthcare, and there's not too many any industries that have a pension in healthcare, but this is definitely one of them. And not only that, the union wages are pretty good. So your base rate in any one of these union and this is the lowest level base rate, this is your starting salary. It's thirty dollars and thirty seven cents an hour. So that's a pretty good starting salary without any experience in the business. And then once you you know, get some experience, you're you're graduating to forty forty dollars an hour. It's pretty good work. We're talking about Bill Garvue's CEO of the Greater Cleveland Film Commission. And obviously I know that there are some projects that you can't discuss, but of the ones that you can tell us a little bit about what's what's shooting or what has what has already shot here recently in the area, su well, there's a you know, there's a car I can say there's a highst car chase movie that is currently filming in Cleveland and that's been around town for the last couple of months and they're going to be finishing up early in June. And then there is another high profile project rolling in right right there in June as well. That is significant. Many people know what I'm talking about. I can't say the name because we sign an NDA, but behind that, you know, there were eleven projects all together approved for text Centiment, including those two, so you know, another nine projects behind those, and then the new round of applications are coming in. The window closes June first, so we'll have another round of applicants approved right after that. So you know, we're sitting in a good time here, a lot of high profile work filming and people working. So you know, it's great to have this after the SAG and writer skilled strikes last year, you know, where people were struggling, it's nice to have work finally coming back and people you know, being able to support their families right right absolutely, And I know one of the things that's been discussed any industry in the in the city for quite some time is you know, moving to the next phase and about you know, sound stages and things like that. Have we are we any closer to getting a sound stage in Greater Cleveland. Well, we do have sound stages, you know, so school Yard Studios is established in Burton and tier G has a sound stage and doing camera at all. You know, so there are sound stages. But you know, if we're talking about like Trillif type sound stages, Pine Crest, Pinewood type sound stages, you know that that comes when you have a higher cap So you know, Atlanta Georgia has two point two million square feet of sound stage space because they have an unlimited production incentive, right, and that that follows the production incentive. So when you grow the tax center for production, then you get more production sound stage growth. So you know, hopefully we will see more of that, but it isn't a building. They will come kind of business, right, It's all driven by production tax and center. And that also kind of goes into the next question you brought up Georgia, which is exactly where I was going to go. What what do we need to do to be more to be even more competitive with them? I mean, we're our projects are increasing, the tax incentive is going in a good direction, but We've all seen what this what this business has done to the state of Georgia. So how do we how do we become moreive? What do we need to do to be more competitive with Georgia. Yeah, I mean it's it's about the cap. You know, they don't have one. We do, so uh, you know, I think if we had an uncapped tax centive, we would be every bit as busy as Georgia. It comes down, and Georgia didn't start out with the industry it has now it grew over a decade now it's going into two decades. You know, they have ninety three thousand people that work and you know, live in Georgia just in this business. So it's it's a long way for us to get to that point, and I have every intention of working hard towards that goal. You know, raising the cap is definitely something we're still pursuing and we haven't given up on that. We are happy that it's gone up, but we do see the potential for more growth and it's all it starts and finishes with the productional centerve cap. And I know, I know you guys have had obviously conversations with elected officials and things like that and some of them listening to this show, so hopefully this will help a little bit. But what has the appetite then when you talk to some of the elected officials about potentially, you know, continuing to increase maybe one day getting to an untapped incentive. I would think that they've obviously seen the growth. They wouldn't have increased the tax credit this time if they didn't believe that this thing could continue to grow. So what has the appetite then when you when you go down to Columbus and things like that. Well, you know, fortunately, economic development and jobs are not a bipart are not a partisan issue, right, so everybody can get behind those two goals. And you know, we have various levels of support for an increase in the accentive. I will put it this way. It's not something that we're giving up on conversations all the time about this, legislations, legislators. So we're working hard at it and hopefully we'll have some products on that at some point in the next year or so. Absolutely so, as of right now, even before we get to that you talked about, you know, we've seen what an uncapped incentive looks like for all the people that have been employed in Georgia, but even in Ohio and in Greater Cleveland right now, with the incentive that we have, how many people have been or are currently employed by by this industry. I mean it, It has been growing exponentially, and I think sometimes people don't really consider and think about it in the same vein as we think about like the healthcare industry or the education industry or some of the other industries that we know where people work at here in Greater Cleveland. So talk a little bit about the jobs that have already been created from this industry. Yeah, there's just under seven thousand full time equivalent jobs in this industry. Obviously the healthcare industry is much larger. But the thing I always say about it, and it's a living you know. Look, I come from this industry having worked directly in production for twenty six years, and half of that time right here in Ohio, work outside of Ohio for those fifteen years. It's an industry that pays more than than most other industries. So, you know, I always argued it's a freelance industry. So a lot of people are turned off by that, But in my mind, what's more important getting your paycheck from one company or getting twenty different W twos at the end of the year and then making more money than the person working at that just one company. You know, I think it's a high paying career. It's a six figure salary for people with experience, and it's a clear that has a punch still, So, you know, we didn't really there's not much of a discount for living and working in this industry in Ohio. We get basically the same rate that we get in LA and New York. I certainly did, you know, I don't know how I did it back in New York because it's a lot more expensive to live there and the money goes a lot farther here. So I think it's a career that is made to succeed in Ohio. And it's also an industry that works with a lot of small business So you know, why does it cost so much money to make the movie? Well, you're doing a lot. It's a very ambitious project. You're employing hundreds of people and working with hundreds of local small businesses. So all these small businesses that aren't in the movie business get to participate in this economy as vendors to the movie Business Bucomo. Bill Garvue's CEO the Greater Cleveland Film Commission, And one thing that I've noticed, particularly since you've become CEO, is the Film Commission has had a much better relationship with the local UH filmmakers, local producers, local UH entertainment companies. Has that been something that UH was intentional or was that just an evolution of just the changing in dynamics, Because it's definitely something that has been noticeable, because that was one of the complaints about the Commission prior to you being CEO is that it was kind of insular and only you know, there was this perception that it only really cared about the big guys and didn't care about everybody else. So was that something that you intentionally wanted to kind of open the doors or did it just kind of evolve over time? Well, I always say that, you know, it has to be, you know, an all inclusive kind of film mission. You know, yes, big budget tent pole pictures, get the Spotlight, Shun and Ohio, that Peyton that you know, mixed studios and producers pay attention to us. So we do need an element of that, but we also need to grow talent from within and the supportive of local filmmaking because you know, that's where our meat and potatoes is. You know, that's where everybody starts. That's where most people make their living. And it's an ecosystem where I may living not just on the big ten coole action adventure movies, but also working on you know, smaller projects with local production on commercials. You know, runs the gamut. So it's an ecosystem, and for that ecosystem to be healthy, it has to be all inclusive. You know, I will say this, it's not my predecessors did a good job. You know, I'm not going to disparage anything that they've done. I just hope that we're being supportive and intentional about communicating that to everybody. And I will say this, there's still people that you think that we're not out for the low. Well, I keep on building out resources hopefully, hopefully people are taking advantage of them on our website to go after funding for you know, local filmmakers, because we do we are supportive of them. We do want to engage with people. We want to grow this industry and we want everybody to succeeding, not just big ten pole action and adventure movies we want everybody, right, absolutely, And yeah, we've we've talked about you know, movies that that's been shooting in a lot of times. I think the industry is obviously associated with movie projects, But what about TV? Have we seen an increase of TV projects shooting here? Is that something else that we want to kind of target because obviously, you know, it's longer period time, more episodes, maybe more people can get hired and stuff like that. Absolutely, yeah, I mean that that's absolutely a focus. We want TV here because TV is longevity and stipilp and it's even built into the tax center because of that. Because once you get episodic and it and it's constant, then you create ecosystem of people working and getting trained up in that ecosystem. And I you know, the first part of my career was all TV. I've worked on fall TV shows over my lifetime, so I know how how great it can be at churning out like at school in itself, turning out new crew. So yes, we're pursuing that part of you know, the problem back before the cap increase was the cap. You know, it's hard to generate TV shows when you don't have enough cap to support the TV show. So now that we do, I have every intention of getting TV to come and I think we've all you know, again, this is just starting toly first, so you know, it might take a cycle or two before we get it, but we are going to get absolutely. We're talking with Bill Garvu's CEO the Greater Cleveland Film Commission, and as we start to wind down here, talk a little bit about what your experience has been like since becoming CEO and film commission. What's been some of the things that you've that you've enjoyed seeing in this industry? What is what has the experience been like since you've become you know, the CEO of something that's really important for this region and for the growth of the region. Yeah. I like honestly, the thing I like most about my job is helping people and you know, seeing things come together and worked out for folks. Obviously in production that's a very very high paying job. I took a pickcock to take this job, but you know it had its own merits. I like it on this side, just being able to help people, being able to you know, teach people and train people, provide opportunities and get more people engaged in this get the awareness out there, you know, trying to honestly, there's so much to like about Northeast Ohio, and I love being a cheerleader for this region and trying to shun a spotlight on it so that more people know how great this place is. You know, It's a really good platform for that, and hopefully, you know, it'll be a long, long serving and very lucrative for everybody process over the next decade or so growing this industry. So it's a great opportunity. I'm really happy to be in this job and hopefully we'll all grow together. Absolutely. And so for people who may be listening, if there's a decision maker, sell them on why they should shoot not only in Ohio, but in Cleveland. Why should they do their project in this region. What advantages do we have versus some of our competitors. Well, I call it a filmmaker shiner law. You know, I've been a location scout all over the Northeast. I've worked in eight different states, in hundreds of cities, and only when I got here did I find the perfect perfect place to make up with me. It really is logistically and esthetically it has this great chameleon ability to represent any city it needs to be, and it runs the gamut, even the topography. You know. We have that range that not every place I've been has, so you can really do a lot here, a lot of unexpected. And the thing is, you know a lot of people don't have any idea of what Ohio is, even now in La you know. I take meetings with folks and they just they don't really know anything about life. So it's a blank slate and kind of illuminating. Hey, this is the range, this is the possibilities here. It's far more than a rust bell, you know. And that's maybe if they have any impression it's it's only rustbelt old city, right. We got so much more going out here, you know. And I always love doing this trick, you know. And I've scouted over the years, and I have a database of of scout files that I carry around with me on my computer, and I whip out the computer and say, hey, you got a desert story, and then I show them. I show them a quarry that we have here locally that you swear as a dessert desert. It looks like a desert three sixty everywhere you look it's a desert and it's right here in Cleveland, so you know, we really have this range that you don't find in too many spots. And then we have the logious so it's not as dense a city as other cities. So you know, we have the parking, we have the ease of movement that you don't have in other places. It really is much easier and much more efficient to make movies here. And I know because I've lived in so I speak from experience. So it really is an easy sell, which it's great to have that, you know, that in my toolbox to be able to sell the city two new people that haven't been here before, because it really does look great on film. It's easy to film, so not a not a hard job in that respect, right right, And before we close, I definitely want to circle back on this because it's it's very important to want to make sure this information is repeated, to make sure that people heard it. For people who want to get in this industry, what do they need to do? Where they need to go? Where, where's the resources? Uh, the link to the web all that stuff? Where where do they go? Where did they start? Excellent? Wow, you're really setting up. Thank you. So our website has a bunch of resources opportunities. When when jobs come around, we post the job, resume, email, addresses, training resources, all of it. It's on our website Cleaveanfilm dot com. Uh And next week we're having our networking mixer. We run quarterly networking mixers where you can, as an inspiring filmmaker, meet working professionals in this business. We always have a lot of people showing up. It's growing, it's building momentum. The last networking mixer we had four hundred and eighty people attend, so it really is a community and we want you to network with people and that's how you get jobs on this because that's how you learn, that's how you sponge up knowledge. So next week it's Wednesday, June fifth, six pm to nine pm at the Music Box down on the Flats. Go to our website there's more info and sign up for our newsletter. Our newsletters how you get all this information pushed out to you free. And also register on our database as crew and that's how you get work. So Clevelandfilm dot com. Bill Garvy, CEO the Great Cleveland Film Commission, thank you so much for coming on the show and spending time with us again. I really appreciate it. Oh, thank you so much. Really appreciate anytime. Stay tuned. We have key time. We're bro coming up next here on the albums. These days, it seems like everybody's talking, but no one is actually listening to the things they're saying. Critical thinking isn't dead, but it's definitely low on oxygen. Join me Kira Davis on Just Listen to Yourself every week as we reason through issues big and small, critique our own ideas, and learn to draw our talking points all the way out to their logical conclusions. Subscribe to Just Listen to Yourself with Kira Davis and FCB Radio podcast on Apple, on Spotify, iHeart, or wherever you get your podcasts, Real talk, cel conversations. We got the heat. Hell yeah, this is the Outlaws Radio Show. Welcome back, Welcome back and listening to the Outlaws. And now was the time of the show that we like to call it Tea Time with ro Turn it up, Ye'll set up complication, the latest celebrity news and gossip. It's Tea Time with Rowe on the Outlaws Radio Show. All right, y'all, so we're gonna go ahead and go with this real quick. So I'm gonna lead with this. But because Dante is so knowledgeable on this topic, I'm gonna start it off and pass it to him. So Jake Paw and Mike Tyson was supposed to have a fight, but Dave, the face off will not happen. It is postponed. Now I do not know the details on it, So I'm gonna go ahead and pass the torch over to Dante. Yeah, what happened? Yeah, so I guess it was this last week. It was. It wasn't that long ago. But as everybody I'm sure knows by now, Tyson it's supposed to fight Jake Paul. And you don't really want to call it like a celebrity boxing thing because it's actually sanctioned and it's gonna go on both fighters record. But in what is I want to say, a forest or I really don't know what to call it. But they're supposed to get in the ring. Mike Tyson, Yeah, fifty seven year old Mike Tyson, the heavyweight champ of the world from the nineteen eighties and Jake Paul, the YouTuber slash professional boxer. Now who's a little bit younger than me, so he's not even thirty yet they're supposed to be fighting. They were supposed to fight June twentieth, but a little while ago Mike Tyson had was about to board a plane and he was nauseous and pretty dizzy and it was due to an ulcer flare up. And so the fight has to be postponed really because his doctors and I guess the commission are saying they just don't want to risk his health. One of the quotes was, I'll read it really quick. They said, I don't know how you continue to put your body through a men's training for this, even if you have an ulcer. A Chicago area gas dronologists who has practiced for forty years before retiring, if it's an ulcer, you just have to respect it. So the fight will be rescheduled, and as of right now, Jake Paul and his promotional team, MVP Promotions, are saying that we should have a new date for the fight next week. June seventh is when the next is when they will announce the date for the fight. So I didn't know until you just said just now that I knew it was sanctioned. But I didn't even put two and two together to think about the fact that it actually will go on their records. Christ it isn't like this isn't like the Mayweather fights where they're just exhibitions and it doesn't really go on as records. No, this is not an exhibition. This is an actual This is a professional fight for Jake Paul and for Mike Tyson. So you go on box wreck and you look at Mike Tyson's resume, and when I'm telling my sons, you know, Mike Tyson was one of the greatest fighters, He'll look and he may say, yeah, you told me Mike Tyson was one of the greats. He lost to Jake Paul. I watched him on YouTube, you know, so there's a possibility of that. Yeah, because it is a possible. I mean, in a fight, anything as a possibility, I personally have I would have if I was a betting man. If I was a betting man, I would have put my money on Tyson. But you know, a fighter is fifty to fifty chance. And you know, a lot of people dismissed Jake Paul, but he's no flap. But quickly, what are your what are your thoughts about that match being saint, Like it didn't even dawn on me, Like I heard it when it was like, oh the match got saank, But it didn't even dawn on me that it would actually count to the record. Just the stuff that we always know before. I mean, you know, everybody talks about like because of what happened this week obviously with Trump, like oh, we live in a Banana Republic now, Well, like whatever you want to call boxing, it's worse, right, Like boxing is, boxing is a business first then a sport, but it's a business that used to be run by crooks and thieves and a mob and a bunch of shady characters. And that's really what it is. I mean to the majority of people, like normal people, they don't understand why I love the sport or why I enjoy watching it so much. But it's really boxing has always been like theatrical and kind of over the top, right, Like there's an element of pro wrestling. There is an element of this isn't you know? These are incredible athletes. Yeah, and there's always a flair for the dramatics, and I mean it's a Tyson fight, so you know, Tyson has always had a flair for the dramatics, and Jake Paul is a YouTuber, so like it's kind of disgusting because I don't think that Tyson should be in any sort of sanction fights, especially with people that are young enough to be his son, just because I mean, obviously he's not the picture of health and he's almost sixty, so it's dangerous for him just any you know, just anyway, now, if he were doing exhibitions against people his own age, former fighters, like when he bought Roy Jones, or if he was gonna do something with Holy Field, I mean, these are guys that are his age, you know, that probably have similar health conditions as he does. You know, Jake Paul is a big kid. He's strong, he does train, he's athletic, and you know, he's like twenty six, twenty seven years old. Like that's a dangerous proposition even for somebody, you know, who at one point was one of the was you know, one of the greatest fighters in the world. So one of the greatest ever. Yeah, So I mean he you know, but boxing has always been like this, and like I always tell people, even when it comes to like steroids in boxing or you know, who's cheating and who's not cheating. We just had that incident with Ryan Garcia, and everybody pretends to be outraged. The people who are supposed to care, right, the promoters, the commission, the sanctioning bodies, They're supposed to be the ones that care. But they don't. If I would, I be bent out of shape about them. They don't care. They can keep moved by money. Ryan Garcia just beat Devin Haney in one of the high profile fights of the year. He was juiced to the gills, right, he tested positive for multiple different steroids. No one cares. The people who are in charge. They find out the test results after the fight, right, So I mean, if they don't care, if they're gonna let him fight again, why should I be upset about it? So last last question for you, and then I'm problem. We're gonna move on to the next topic. If Jake were to lose to the fifty seventy year old Tyson, what impact do you think that has on his career and his image more important? Nothing because like you said, no, nothing because like you said already, most people, like most people think he's gonna lose anyway. Yeah, but like to lose a fight that everybody thinks that you're going to lose. It doesn't It doesn't harm him or anything, and it doesn't you know, same thing with Tyson, Like neither one of them really have anything to lose. I mean, if Tyson goes out there and loses or looks bad, I mean, it's fifty seven with obviously he deals with Ulcer like you know what I mean, Like he's a Tyson's a fifty seven year old guy that smokes weed and does a podcast. Right that his are long. You know, Tyson has been in a serious fight since like the early two since I was in like fourth grade, right, I'm almost thirty. So Tyson goes out there and loses to Jake Paul. You know, he's almost sixty. He smoked weed all day and sit on the couch with a podcast like you know, like we do, Jake Paul. If he loses, most people thought you were going to lose anyway. Most people don't take the podcast the podcast part, not the smoke weed part. We don't sit there, No, we do not sit around all day. Yeah, podcast part. Just want to make that part make no facts facts. So yeah, I mean I don't think either one of the guys have anything to really lose. What do you think? That's the fair point. That's the fair point. And the only thing that I would say that would make me be like, yeah, I agree with that is because most people expect Jake Paul to lose anyone. I think that is probably the sense, because I'm sure you have some people who think Jake actually is the is the one with the advantage because of the age and all of that. But the average person thinks. I believe the average person thinks Tyson's gonna win anyway. So as long as Tyson don't dog him. Now, if they get out there and Tyson dogs him, that may hurt. That may hurt Tyson because you can say that Tyson is supposed to win or can win. I don't know if no fifty seven year olds supposed to dog you. Though. Yeah, they're gonna make They're probably gonna make a lot of money. That's why they won't cancel the event. They're gonna make a lot of money and sell a lot of tickets, and so there will unless someone gets seriously hurt. And I don't think Jake fall can really be seriously hurt here. I don't think Tyson would do that to him Tyson will you know, he'll talk smack and he'll put on a mean face, you know, Impress conferences and stuff like that. But I don't think he's I don't think he will actually go out there and try to hurt you know what I mean. Or let's say he hurts Jake. I don't think he's gonna I'm gonna knock this kid out. I don't think that's enticing anymore. And I don't think that Jake. Let's say Jake where to crack Mike and have Mike hurt. I don't think he would actually go out there and try to destroy the guy. I don't think he would do that. So I could actually see, you know, both guys having moments, neither guy really hurting each other badly. Maybe it ends in a draw, they split a lot of money. You know, people come out for a nice event. I don't I don't think either guy is gonna go out there and go out on their shield, like you know, like the heavyweight title is on the world or on the line. So I hope, I hope Mike is safe. Though, Man, you know this is this is a dangerous thing. Uh obviously, because he's because of his age, and like you said, he smokes a lot of weed, and he hasn't had a professional fight, like a real fight in a long time. And I've enjoyed the character arc of Mike Tyson and how he how he seems like a guy at peace now and all those sorts of things. Man, I really enjoy seeing some of his conversations. So I hope, I just hope he's safe. I just hope he's safe. Of course, I would love to see the spectacle because it's going to be, especially because it's a sanctioned professional fight, it's going to be the spectacle. It's almost like this is this will be the opportunity for people Like I'm I'm a little older than Dante's so I remember I remember a little of the original Tyson. The most that I remember, though, even in my age, is like post ear bite Tyson. Mm hmmm. So the test so like close to the end, you know what I mean. Like I'm old enough to remember that, but a lot of people don't know the spectacle that came with a Tyson fight. Like Tyson was one of those it was different. Man. You can't you got dressed, you put on a suit, you like it was. The celebrities came out, the rappers, the actors, the gang bangers, everything like you know what I mean, Like you came out for a Tyson fight. There was nothing like a Tyson He's one of the most famous athletes in American history. Really yeah, and and whatcle and that spectacle was just like I think for some people, this is almost like their opportunity to see like Jordan on the Wizards. This is what I think. This is what I think it is for some people that good Jake would be in trouble. I don't even think. I think I think this would be like Mike at a retirement home because people because people didn't see Tyson in his prime, A lot of a lot of people didn't see Jordan his crime. Now when he was with the Wizards, he was no longer in his prime, no doubt about it, but you still saw glimpses of that Jeorde. He was still you know, he was he was still I mean, he's still had a pretty good year. So I think this is this is people's opportunity, I guess, to experience something that they weren't old enough to experience when it was really enter tating, you know, what I mean. So, but I hope, I just hope Tyson is safe. Just be safe, man, don't don't hurt yourself because it ain't worth it. He got enough money and he don't like, don't need it. He don't need it, all right, next, all right, So I'm gonna go a little light on it this week since I went so hard on y'all last week. But this one is a little more down. So if anybody has ever watched a General Hospital, there was an actor on there. His name is Johnny Whacter. He was a he's a former actor on there, and but he as of just a couple of days ago, he was shot dead in downtown Los Angeles during an alleged robbery. And Darbil, I know that you kind of had the backstory on that. Yeah, So he was he was leaving his bartending job with a coworker and he was walking around and there was a he saw the and it was like three in the morning, I think, and he saw some dudes around his car. Now he thought his car was getting told, but it was really I guess they were trying to cut off his catalytic converter, which is something a lot of criminals do, and it's worth quite a bit of money, your catalytic converter. So he caught him in the act. They pulled a gun. He he got in front of the girl, and you know, they shot the guy in the chest. So they took his life over a car park right that they ended up not even getting Wow, they got in from my understanding, they got in another car and drove away. I mean, it's just, first of all, this is one of the reasons why a friend of the show, Kalie Lamar, as always talking about stealing and why it matters more than people think it does, because it's almost like a gateway drug. Like if you're willing to be bored enough to steal somebody's catalytic converter off of a car, like, why wouldn't you just do whatever? You know what I mean. And it's just the lack of respect for life, the lack of respect for people's property. You know, it's just it was just it was just sad for him to have to die like that, and they didn't have to shoot him. They just shot him just for no reason, for no reason, they didn't have to shoot him. So and that kind of brings it back to you know, how it is for people as far as being able to live on a day to day life, like people cannot. Like I don't know where it's like with the jobs, you know, people I don't know if they're like being lazy or if this if it's the lack of you know, the opportunities of people to get on their feet or whatever the case may be, like to for people to go to that extreme to not only steal people's car pards, but to take their life over it Like it's I try to wrap my mind around that, but it's just like that really brings that to that is like what is it? Is it the laziness or is it the lack of jobs? Well, I think the issue is it's just it's just the lack of respect and with all of this, all of this crime in the streets. It's one of the reasons why I talk so much about crime, Like people feel like they can do whatever the hell they want to do. People feel like they can just like it's like the Wow West, you know, and they had no value, no respectful life because they can they can get a job, find a job, but you know, they rather take somebody's life because they caught you in the act and trying to steal something from Nate car You know what I'm saying, it's like right to add insults of injury. You shouldn't have been over there in the first place, and he caught you, and because he caught you, you shot it. You know, so it's it's messed up. It's messed up. And you know what, Darville, you know, when you were speaking, I was just thinking because when you know, when I went to La uh for LA Fashion Week a couple of years back, I know that every person that I have ever met that lives there because it kind of I guess I kind of take back from what I said about the lack of jobs because truly in La like there's so many opportunities, so many different things, and I get that people have to work multiple jobs. I mean that's really anywhere but La you know, with the expenses being so high, rent, et cetera. But I see, I knew a lot of people that were like they were doing all kinds they had their hands and all kinds of different things to make money. So it's really no excuse, absolutely not. And uh, as we close, Dante, you know, California in general has a has a reputation for these kind of these kind of shenanigans, and I think it's part of another one of those things. Man, this is why you know people don't like politics, but politics matter because these are your leaders, and your leaders create conditions for mess like this to happen. Oh yeah, that people who did this probably won't even be prosecuted. They don't even know who they are, like they they got. I mean, I think what's going on in northern California is outrageous. I mean I was talking to one of my one of my friends that live out there, and I was like, man, I should I need to get out of Northern California. He was like, yeah, Bro, I don't think the time for that is right now. Then I thought about it, I was like, oh yeah, cause they just running into people's cars and they doing it because they can get away with it. A friend of mine went out to la I'm sorry she went out to San Francisco with her. It was her and three of her friends, and she telling me this story. She said, they got their luggage, you know, they checked out, but they had somebody had to make a run. I think it was like to a target or a CVS or something like one of the you know, the store like that. She said when they came out, Uh, their rental car was broken into. All their luggage had been I mean they hadn't been there for in an hour yet wow, all of their stuff. It's like man had no way, no way, but a law abidence citizen like me, it'd be I got to jump through hoops and everything to get you know, to get a firearm or all this suff I just California is not for me. I can visit. I like the visit, but it's not for me to live. Specific Oh I would never ever, ever, ever ever want to live like oh no, I in New York and oh I know people in California right now trying to get out like like oh no, never ever ever. And you know, they got that stupid law where like if you steal under one thousand dollars, you won't get arrested. You can walk in the store and just steal stuff and walk out and they can't do anything about it. They'll fire, they'll fire the people who if they try to stop you. That's crazy, which is crazy. Imagine going into like a target, you're trying to steal a TV, the person, the person you you got the TV. You're about to get out of there and associate trips. You you fall, break your leg, limp to the car, steal the TV. It's under a thousand. They can't do nothing about it. And then you get to suit target because you, oh, that would be incredible. That's man. Imagine owning a business. No way, no way, no, I mean, why didn't you think a lot of these these businesses are moving out of California and going to different places, you know what I mean. And and by the way, if you're if you're listening and you're shooting movies, come on to Ohio. Uh. If people try to steal your stuff, we will lock. They answer that video with the protesters downtown in Cleveland and they were this was around the George Floyd toime and the protester the protesters were about to throw bricks through It was some guy's window. Man, but it was two guys in there, and all they did was show that they had two shotguns. And the protest was like, oh no, no, no, get to get out of here. Yeah you're talking about them. I can't remember. It was some battalion, dudes. It was an Italian restaurant and all they did was just show them that we got shotguns, we got to blow you. And it was like oh no, no, no, no, they got guns they got and these were not and again, these these were not uh like black people protesting the murder of George Floyd or any other situation here in Cleveland. These were agent provocateurs that were coming into our city to stir up trouble after the protest, creating the ride that you know, the stuff that made it on the news. So that that's what that was. But but here in Ohio, uh now, we have concealed carry without a permit. Back then, you know, all you have to do is take a class and you know you can go to the store and get a shotgun. So businesses are protected here. Yeah yeah, so come on, come on through, come on, you said your property here. So but on a on a serious note, the whole thing is serious. Serious condolences to Johnny Wack's family and and all of that, and I hope they get justice. I hope they get justice. I know that's a hard thing to get in California, but you know, his family deserves justice. So all right, stay tuned. We have this hot taste coming up next here, sir, welcome back. Welcome back. You listen to the Outlaws and make sure that you subscribe to the show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, I Hard, wherever you get your podcasts. And if you listen to the show on Apple, make sure you leave us a five star review. And the comment is very important for the algorithm. And for those of you who've already done so, thank you also very much. And now it's the time to show that we like to call it Dante's Hot Takes, telling the truth. Whether you like it or not, it's Dante's Hot Takes on the Yelt Lawns radio show. Well, as I'm sure everybody knows by now, former President Donald Trump has been convicted of a felony. He is our former president is a felon, and he was convicted yesterday in New York by a jury of his peers, and so we are awaiting his sentencing, which is supposed to happen July eleventh. Trump spoke to the media immediately after the press or after the reading of the verdict yesterday. He called it a sham and a farce and said he's going to continue to fight because our country is going to hell. He echoed those sentiments today in about a thirty forty minute speech at Trump Tower. And so now everybody's just kind of in a waiting game. But what I am really impressed by is the level of cognitive dissonance really by both sides. On the one hand, you got Trump's supporter saying, you know, this is the deep state, this is the Biden administration, the same people that stole the election. These are the people that are out to get Trump and they got him. So my question to them would be, well, how do you think he's going to win the election? Because if these are the same people that have all this power and have continuously gained victory after victory against him, why would they let him win the presidency now when he needs it most. But then we see the hypocrisy from the other side too, which it's actually kind of sad because people want to see this seventy seven year old guy go to prison for a nonviolent crime that is normally charged as a misdemeanor. But he's a nonviolent criminal who is seventy seven years old and this is his first offense. Do we really want people like that going to prison? I don't think so. As somebody who I'm not against jail, but I am against nonviolent offenders being you know, lumped in. So the one thing that, like I was telling Darvo off the air, the one thing that I'm very grateful to Trump for is that he based on his him being so outrageous, his persona and his presidency and his candidacy being so outlandish and so much of an outlier, he has forced everybody to take off their masks and to show us that, you know, both sides are really hypocrites that are full of bs. Right, We've got people who are traditionally on the side of questioning the law and saying, you know, the system is corrupt and you can't trust the system, and let's bring prison reform so that non violent offenders don't go to prison, especially on their first offense. Ready to lock this man up because they hate him politically and don't want him to become president again. And then you got another side that will tell you about the Lord and about Christianity idol worshiping a man who cheated on his wife. So I'm impressed by the level of cognitive dissonance, but I'm also kind of sad that this is really where our country is right, and if we were ever right for the empire to fall, it would be right now. Right. If China is the superpower that people think they are, if they were ready, America's time surely looks like it's now. Right now looks like the time right. I do think people are being hyperbolic when it comes to you know, I saw civil war trending, and I saw insurrection trending. I just think, you know, again, thank you to Trump for at least bringing out the level of unseriousness in people, because I just I think a lot of this stuff is theater. We have the prosecutor now being summoned to Congress by Jim Jordans, so there will be more theater on that with his Senate hearing or with his House hearing. So right now we have we are in a very serious time with a lot of unserious and hypocritical people running the country, and we got an important election in November. And I have no idea where this goes, because I don't think that this is the death knell for Trump's campaign. I don't. I actually think he's still very much alive. But I'm also sensible, and something we were talking about earlier off the air where it's like he's going to be able to run as a felon, But we will have felons in this country that either can't vote or can't get their gun rights back, non violent specifically non violent felas who can't vote, can't get their gun rights back, can't vote or get jobs, or maybe not be able to get financial aid for school. So we just got a lot of problems. But at least, in the very least, I think we can all be grateful for Trump at least exposing a lot of those problems, because he can be so outrageous. So my perspective is a little different, well a lot different, not that I disagree with anything that you said. I commented on a post earlier to day of somebody comparing Trump to Jesus, and I'm like, stop that, please stop that. Don't do that. Don't do that. I saw that. I saw that. Yeah, don't don't don't don't do that. By the way, yeah, don't don't do that. But I think it's important to acknowledge that this was outrageous. The the charges were garbage, the the way that the entire trial was set up was garbage. The whole it was, the whole thing was a scam. It just it just was and my biggest fear to me. And I watched Trump speech too, and I think he was right when he said it ain't even about him, because this is the thing that we said, and I know I specifically said on this show when the raid happened. When you do this, don't be surprised when it comes back to you. Every time this happens. Every time a new political weapon gets introduced, it will eventually be used on the people who introduced it. And so that is the thing that I think I'm the most concerned about, beyond Trump or anything else. Is this the world that we want to live in? Is this the environment that we want to live in? These like there are people and I do believe that Trump derangement syndrome is real. There are people who hate this man so much that they're willing to do anything, anything to destroy this man. Now again, granted, did he have something to do with that, Yes he did. Don't cheat on your wife. He's not a member. He not a member of a Faithful Black Man Association. We talk about that on this show all the time. There are a lot of men, a lot of powerful, famous men, who get caught up and end up getting railroaded from situations where the door was opened because they cheated on their wife. Don't cheat on your wife. So yes, I totally agree with all of that. I agree with the fact that I think it's I think the hypocrisy on the Republican side is more from the from the criminal justice aspect versus the I understand what they say when they when they make the argument about, you know, the system being rigged, but Trump can still win because the argument that they're making now is, uh, they got to make the election that the catchphrase is too big to rig, so their victory has to be too big to rig. But then my only question for that is, Okay, well, are y'all going to get out here in these streets and go sign up voters and register voters and make sure that you make that you make the case to win as many voters as you can so that it can be quote unquote too big to rick. But I understand that argument. But I do agree with the hypocrisy from the criminal justice aspect, which both sides have. You have one side who always says the system is corrupt now saying it's the best system in the world. And then you have the other side who always says is the best system of the word in the world, now saying the system is corrupt. There's no consistency. And for somebody like me who has always been consistent, like, yeah, I think is our system better than other systems? Yeah? Yeah it is? But is it perfect? No? And I've never said it's perfect. And when there's things that are wrong with the system, I have articulated that and said we need to fix that. But these people get caught up in these binary choices where they say it's all good or all bad and not. It looks stupid when situations like this happen. So I agree with all of that, but I wanted to make sure that I didn't ignore the fact that I think that this case is this case was outrageous. It was absolutely outrageous. This was a clear political in my view, in my opinion, And you know, I am not anti prosecutor. I'm not anti you know what I mean. I'll criticize it if you're wrong, but I'm not against law enforcements as a general position, you know what I mean. I want you to do right when you in that when you're in that position, and if you do wrong, I criticize you. But to me, this prosecution was political. I thought it was unfortunate to see. It's fortunate to see the system used this way. But on another on the other hand, I'm not surprised because I've seen the system use this way before. One in particular, I remember when Irvin Chris Gotti got rail roaded by the federal government when they got prosecuted for something that they had no business being prosecuted for because it was no case at all. Like so, I've seen I know somebody personally, I told you the story off their someone that I personally know who was railroaded and prosecuted by something that was a constitutional right. They violated his constitutional rights. Right now, Dexter Taylor, who was on this show as Carbon Mike, is in New York jail, is in a New York prison right now, and his constitutional rights were violated. He has no business they arrested and sent this man to prison for like ten years for exercising his constitutional rights. So for me, yeah, the Trump I believe, And people can disagree, they can agree or disagree or whatever. I believe that that Trump trial was a political prosecution. I believe that that trial was a clear cut case of prosecutorial misconduct. I was shocked. I was shocked and disturbed by the audacity of it, but I wasn't surprised because I've seen them do that to other people, and I think, you know, I always say this, like conservatism, like the idea, the idea of political conservatism, the ideology would be a beautiful thing if it was consistent and applied equally, because if you're a conservative and you're consistent in that, you would have already had a suspicion of that system. Because you should have a suspicion if you are a conservative, if you call yourself a conservative, you should have a suspicion of anyone who has that much amount of power in their hands and know and they have not demonstrated that they're fair with that power. I wrote about this when the Marlago raid happened. I wrote about this in Newsweek, where you had conservatives criticizing the FBI, And my article in Newsweek was essentially welcome to the party because the FBI been targeting had been targeting black people for decades. This is the thing about power, and this is why I'm saying it's so dangerous to play this game because when you play this game, eventually it will be turned on you. So everybody has to get serious and get consistent. What do you believe. Don't pick and choose your values based on who the target is. And that goes for that. That's not just for the Republicans, that's for the Democrats too, because I see people that are gleeful right now, and you shouldn't be because, first of all, like Dante mentioned, you're exposing yourself as a hypocritecause you spend all the time criticizing the system. Now you love the system because it's going after your political opponent. Second of all, what is good for the goose is good for the gander. Once you introduce a new weapon into the political system, it will eventually be used on you. So I don't disagree with anything but you said Dante, But I wanted to make sure that I pointed out like this, this, this is outrageous. I am in total agreement that this was a this was a flawed case from the start. There's a lot of things that they can bring on appeal. The ground is right for appeal, that was my last one. The ground is absolutely right for appeal or not just one reason either, Like I'm sure Trump's legal team is probably coming to the you know, Appello court with with a bib on because there are multiple, multiple reasons why he has a good shot again this overturned on appeal. Right, so right, you know, we're to say, but yeah, the ground is right for a pill at least. What I think about it is that that's that's wild, is that's not unless they unless they try to fast track it to the Supreme Court. And there's a pathway for them to do that. It's a narrow pathway and it's not guaranteed, and the Supreme Court may not do it. But unless they try to fast track it to the Supreme Court, this thing won't be resolved before the election. No, And because it's not a federal case, even should he win, he will not be able to pardon himself right right, depending on now if there's you know, depending on how if there's you know, the Supreme Court case where they expand their jurisdiction over some of this stuff, which they could, but beyond that, beyond something novel happening like that, No, and this won't be resolved. This won't be resolved until after after the election. And the last point I want to make because we got to get out of here. But the last point I want to make is there's clearly something wrong in New York with the way that they're doing cases and trials and things like that. Like I mentioned, not only just with the Trump thing. It ain't just about Trump. That's one of the reasons why I don't even really like talking about him publicly, because people just get sold. They lose their mind when that man's name come out of your mouth. Like people's brains, they just stopped listening. They're not even listening to your general argument. So it's not just about Trump, and it's not just about the Trump case. But like I mentioned, the situation with Dexter Taylor, where he legally assembled an assembled gun for himself, never used them, never nothing, just because he wanted. He liked to tear him down and build him together. He was basically like an engineer. They sent him to prison. We saw Harvey Weinstein, who is a reprehensible person, a reprehensible human being, who allegedly raped and assaulted many women. His case, his conviction in New York, the majority of it just got thrown out, not too long ago by the New York Supreme Court because their prosecutor was doing a prosecutorial misconduct in his case. Something's up in New York in general. You can't have these situations where people feel like the judge the judge and Dexter Taylor's case, hold his lawyer, you cannot bring up the Second Amendment in this courtroom. How is that? How is that possible? Where they just blatantly violate your constitutional rights like that and you have no recourse. That's a problem. So there's some issues going on in New York. I agree. I wish people would be more consistent. I've accepted the fact that they're not. But in my view, that doesn't change the fact that this is This is outrageist and I'm concerned for the country and I'm concerned about what comes next. Uh, let him know how to follow you, sir. Follow me on Instagram and Twitter at T Brian t A E B R y E. Mister O'Malley, you could follow me on Instagram at real Robin O'Malley. Uh, you can follow me on Facebook at Robin O'Malley and apparently now Twitter you can follow me at real Robin O'Malley, that's right now looking at her, Dante. She always needs to talk about it. You don't like Twitter, but now she's popping over there. Now now that you can follow me at bet King Fin everywhere else d N E K I N G p I N one more time. 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