This is the FCB podcast Network Great. This is when they drunk yaw boots dot Dog, we don't listen to y'alls. The Outdog, we don't listen to y'alls and the out Dog make a scream out down like a sound Doug because the roogets in the crowd like a bla ball tuned into the charge from the outlog. Tuned into the charge from the outlog. Welcome to the Outlaws. This is Derby on the King K Marrow alongside Robin o'nali. Don't forget too Like us on Facebook and Facebook dot com, Slash the Outlaws Radio, follow us on Twitter and Instagram at the Outlaws Radio. Dante Bryant is not in today, but before he left he when went out of town. But before he left he taped a segment of Dante's Hot Tech, so that will be on later on in the show. Don't uh don't miss that. You definitely don't want to miss that. We also have a very special interview that we're gonna get to in just a second. But first, miss O'Malley, how are you. I'm great. I'm great. It's been beautiful weather, so you know, I really can't complain now that spring is finally fighting back, I think it might be summer, though it's kind of skipped a little bit. Yeah. Well, you know how Cleveland weather it is. It's like winter spring, winter, winter than some in one day usually. Yeah, it was. It was. It was eighty three degrees today. I believe it because I was like, I was just telling you, you know, I've been battling my air. I didn't know whether I was too cold or too hot. Yeah, it was crazy. I was riding down the highway. I've been gone all day. I was riding down the highway having my son ruve open and the windows down and all of that. You know that feels that's a feel good moment, you know what I mean. Put you put your car in sport and then keep it pushing. It is nice to do that. Yeah, yeah, it was. It's a good day, very very beautiful day. But it was. It was. It was so it's still kind of hot too. I got I got my air on and you know, robbing, just to reassure you, robbing, it is hot. You are not going through the change. Okay, I'm not going through change. No, you're not going through the just hot, all right. I don't think I'm there yet, but you know, right precautionary worried so so earlier today I had the pleasure of being able to take UM an interview. Would always say tape, I sound old. But to record an interview with Lee's Eldon, who was a former congressman and who also ran for governor in the state of New York and came very very close to winning that I would appreciate that he took some time. It was a very busy day at an event right after, so I really appreciated him taking the time to talk to us. So we're gonna go to that interview right now. All right, we have former congressman who came this close to winning the governorship of New York, former Congressman Lee Zeld And welcome. How you doing sir. It's great to be with you, so UM, First of all, thank you for taking the time. I really appreciate it. Um. Talk a little bit about what your strategy was, how you got so close and in New York State, the bluest of the blue, you have to start early, work hard all day every day, take absolutely nothing for granted, and show up everywhere. Get out slad your comfort zone, go to areas where there are a long time Democrat voters who are waiting for our message. Talk about the issues that matter most to the voters. Don't try to pander, don't try to be all things to all people. Don't try to be a Democrat, like, don't try to be someone different. Just be yourself. And what we found was that there were a lot of people who agree that New York State was heading in the wrong direction. They were living in a state leading a country now migration. There were New Yorkers of all walks of life hitting their breaking point and looking to other states as a place where they can live freer and safer and have their money go further. And having a great team running as a team a strong ticket allowed us to be able to connect not only with voters who should have been voting for us no matter what, but a lot of long time Democratic voters who said that they're fed up with the direction of the state. They wanted to try something different. You know, one thing I noticed, I remember you went on the Breakfast Club and I saw that interview. It was a really really good interview, and just looking at kind of like the demographics of New York in order for you to get that close, you had to have at least some crossover support for you. So talk a little bit about what was your approach like when you went to talk to minority communities and things like that, because obviously you had to get some of that vote order to get that close. I remember when I went to the Breakfast Club interview. I was giving it heads up that the meeting would be about the interview would be about twenty minutes, and well over an hour later, the interview ended, and we had a whole lot of topics covered. Nothing was off limits. There were a number of groups that are long time Democrat constituencies who voted for us in a big way. We won the Asian American vote, won the Dominican vote, one the Orthodox Jewish vote, and other voting blocks that have been voting Democrat for a very long time. And I wasn't showing up saying I love black people from me, I love expanding people who for me. I love Asian people vote for me. That's pannering. It doesn't work, and it shouldn't work. I showed up saying that we need to make the streets where you live safer. These are my ideas on how to do it. I want to break the cycle of multigenerational poverty and give your kids access to a good quality education. This is how we accomplish that. We need more upward economic mobility and combating this mental health crisis and homelessness. Here are my ideas on how to accomplish it. And it was because of the substantive policy proposal. I believe that I earned support from longtime Democrat voters. Showing up is important. Showing up over and over and over again is important. At the end of the day, you have to be telling voters what it is that you stand for that they're investing in. It's not just about what you're against, but more importantly what you're for. Absolutely and I know you got to wrap it up here so real quick. I know you've also been critical of the direction of the party nationally and wanting for them to do more, you know, outreach and speak to more people, talk a little bit about what you think the direction that the Republican Party nationally should go on. I feel like we're starting to see out of the Republican majority in the House some good progress. They're conducting the oversight that they promised. It's one thing to camp that if you put me into majority, this is what I'm going to do, And to actually get there and do it is so key, and in the past that's not what's happened. Seeing the House Republicans passing a debt limit proposal, not just saying that we need to do something about our national debt, but actually putting ideas in a bill that passes the House, improves your negotiating position. I would say that if there's one thing tactically that we need to improve as much as possible, as fast as possible, is that the Republican Party needs to get into the city's market. You can't win Pennsylvania without doing a better job getting in a Philly. You can't win Georgia without doing a better job of getting into Atlanta. And there are house seats in the suburbs of the New York City media market, there are house seats in the suburbs of the LA media market. That won't be one unless you are also getting deep into the city, generating your media, meeting with voters, growing the Republican Party. So if I was given the opportunity to provide advice on a dozen different topics and be happy to do it, for anyone who wants to listen. If you asked me to just identify one thing that the Republican Party can do better that we need to do better, it's that we need to get into the city's more. Let everybody know to follow you. Sorry, So we have a website at team Zelden dot com. We're all over social media at lee Zelden, and we would encourage anyone to join the team. Sign up, get involved in the conversation. Thank you so much for taking us time. I really appreciate it. All right, same here, All right, stay tuned. We have tea time with roll coming up next. Here. These days, it seems like everybody's talking, but no one is actually listening to the things they're saying. Critical thinking isn't dead, but it's definitely low on oxygen. Join me Kira Davis on Just Listen to Yourself every week as we reason through issues big and small, critique our own ideas, and learn to draw our talking points all the way out to their logical conclusions. Subscribe to Just Listen to Yourself with Kira Davis, an FCB radio podcast on Apple, on Spotify, iHeart, or wherever you get your podcasts. Real Talk real conversations. We got the Yes, this is the Outlaws Radio Show. Welcome back, Welcome back. You're listening to the Outlaws. Want to send a special shout out once again to leave Zelda for coming on the show. We really appreciate it. And now it's a time to show them. We like to call it two time with Ruth, turn it up, Confetation, the latest celebrity news and gossip. It's tea time with Row on the Outlaws Radio Show. All right, y'all, so I've got a little bit of tea for you. Okay, it might be a lot, it might be a lot, but we're gonna start out with Drake. And y'all know, I like to like to touch up on his his topics and whatnot. But Drake, I'm you know, I'm sitting here looking at this picture I've seen earlier Darbo, and I'm like thinking that Drake had bought, you know, into some plane service where he's selling our renting outplanes or something, um, because that's what the picture is of a plane and it says Air Drake, right. But then I get to reading, because reading is fundamental. So Drake has released his quote unquote Air Drake Collection in collaboration with the elder state man. And what that is. He has his own clothing line. And so there's air drake, eyemask, there's sweatpants, hoodie, a blanket like, socks and a robe like it keeps going on and on and on. But that's not where the tea is, you guys. I mean, that's that's amazing for him. I love that for him, But that is not where the tea is. The tea is in the price of these items, okay, I mean four hundred and fifteen dollars for a pair of socks for some socks, socks, four thousand, one hundred for a blanket. Seriously, the eyemask, nine hundred and ninety five dollars, Oh wow for an eyemask. And it just keeps getting bigger and bigger in prices, and I'm just like, I'm confused. There's one a logo blanket that he has here as well, four thousand dollars. If so, let me say this, ladies and gentlemen, those of you who are listening to this show right now, if you are that determined to give your money away, Robbing and myself we do take donations, you really just want to get rid of your money. We got we got PayPal, we got them. Listen, my cash app is my name, my Instagram name. So yeah, yeah, I will accept so. But yeah, like with these items, like they better be made out of clouds, right, It's that's just absurd. That's absurd, and you know it's gonna be somebody else. Don't pay for it, somebody, listen. I mean, wasn't there a story that I touched up on some time ago. I forget what singer it was. It might have been Glorilla or something like that. I do not remember who it was. It was a female and she threw her wig into the into the thing, you know, and people there was another artist. It might have been Nicki Minaj. I think her nail popped off at one point and somebody sold it for like thousands for that one nail that popped off in her finger. People will definitely pay for these things, so I mean, to each their own, but not me. Okay, let me just say this first and foremost. I am a Capricorn. We like to make money, but we do not like to spend money. Team Capricorn right here. I next, So the next one, NA was, let me go to it oh yes, so Rihanna and asap Rocky as everybody knows, they have a little baby, so they're they're in it's his it's just a little boy. So they named their son Rizza. Let me say, let me try to get this correct, because I tried it with a tongue sister, Rizza Athelston Mayors. I got it right this time. Okay, Rizza Athelston Mayors. And that is actually from one of the Wou Tang clan Um member's name. That's his actual that's his stage name. And yes, that was Rizza, the the leader, the de facto leader of Wu Tang clan Um. But for those of you who don't know his his government name is Robert Fitzgerald dig So. Yeah, so that wasn't his real name. But I love Rihanna. That's my girl. I was bumping her all day today. Okay, I mean shout out to her always, but well, you know, I'm Marianna fan. But listen, yeah, but riz Riza, r z a Rizza. I mean, it'll be easy for the child to learn, I guess, right, right, But you know, I mean, I mean, my kid's names are extra long. But I don't know about the weird. That's the celebrity thing. I guess. So as I as I move up in the game, do I have to actually name my child weird name? Is that like a thing? Yeah? Yeah, it's gonna be like h X zero seven point two three three five, O'Malley the third, the third, but shout out, so the next one, no no, no, no, no, no no oh, this one, I like this one. This one is actually, um, this might be why Solange kicked jay Z, but that at that one point in the elevator, I know everybody has to remember that story where she like literally kicked his butt. Yeah, and craziest thing. It's not funny, it's not I mean, abuse is not funny, guys. Um, but there was a story behind it. But anyway, so right here it says anyway, jay Z potentially has a son, a grown son, a very grown son. Um, it says jay Z's alleged son. Let me get this right, because it's another weird name. Guys. You know, Okay Rymer, that's her weight, shatter earth weight. I hope I said that right right, files new Supreme Court motions to force the rapper into taking a paternity test. And if I'm not mistaken. Let's see, it says a ten year paternity dispute. So this thing going on for ten years. Yeah, ten years, that's two thousand and eleven. I mean, if you feel that that is not your child, why are you fearing of taking why are you fighting taking it? Give me that, Give me that, Dantes, I'll show you even though this kid Listen, Marie, Marie, we need you. If y'all, if y'all don't see, if y'all haven't seen the picture, he looks like jay z Man, Listen, he looks just like him. Okay, like the lips, the nose, the cheekbones, the eyes, the opening is like, look at his face, Maury, look at his face, Look at his eyes, Look at his nose. Look, look they got the same, They got the same. Here, low, look, I've actually done that before he does. He really does look like. I'm like, I'm not even gonna like him. Like if a chife, you feel a child is not yours, if you feel strongly it's not yours, the child is not yours, wife, what what's the problem of taking the test? Right? But like you know, if he isn't, you is a possibility, like step up and take care of your business right exactly, because that leads me to believe it probably is this kid. Not only does he look like him, but he's been refusing to take a DNA test. That's your kids. That's it right there, right Stop playing, all right, stay tuned. We have Dante's Hots coming up next here on The Outlaws. Fuck True, Welcome back, welcome back. You're listening to the Outlaws, make sure that you subscribe to the show on app podcast Spotify, iHeart, but wherever you get your podcast, and if you listen to the show on ap please make sure you leave us a five star review. And the comment is very important for the algorithm and for those of you who have already done so, thank you oh so very much, and now is the time to show them. We like to call Dante's part takes telling the truth. Whether you like it or not, it's Dante's hot takes on the Yell Law's radio show. Okay, So we now have an incredible discovery from Jonathan eg Or I I don't know how to pronounce his name, but he is currently in the process of or finishing up a book about Martin Luther King, Jr. And one of the primary findings in his research is that now disgraced author Alex Haley. You may remember him from Roots. He also wrote the autobiography of Malcolm X. Jonathan Iger Eg found something in his research that suggests that Alex Haley flat out lied at Bethy would call it unethical journalism. In one of Martin Luther King's most famous criticisms of Malcolm X. When we all go back and we think about the fact that they only the two men only met once, right, very brief, but King, as we were led to believe, made some very harsh criticisms about Malcolm X, and now we know that Allen Hailey completely fabricated them. There was an article that came out in the Washington Post. You can go find it. It's called mlk's famous criticism of Malcolm X was a fraud. Author finds Rolling Stone did a piece about it. Martin Luther King Junior's cards criticism of Malcolm X found to be a fraud. And this seems from a Playboy interview that doctor King did with Alex Haley where he essentially said that, and I'm paraphrasing, but essentially what we were led to believe is that doctor King thought that Malcolm X wasn't serious, that none of his rhetoric was beneficial, that they were just diametrically opposed, they never would see eye to eye. That's what we were led to believe. However, if you go read these articles, you'll see that that's not exactly how doctor King felt. In fact, what some of us already knew to be true. But what a lot of people are going to realize when they read this piece is that doctor King was a little bit more radical, a lot more radical than people would care to believe. He was a lot more than just I have a dream right. And this was at a point in doctor King's life where Malcolm X had not passed away yet, but doctor King was starting to realize some things, and he actually said that he doesn't necessarily agree with everything Malcolm says, but he actually can understand where Malcolm is coming from. So while they may have disagreed on a certain vehicle to get on how to get to a certain place, they both sort of agree that they were going to the same place. And this is something that this interview, in these criticisms that we were led to believe were true, has led to people disparaging both. It has led to wars within our culture from I'm more of a Malcolm X type than or a Martin Luther King type when it comes to get into the same place when in reality those through gods were on the same training. Now, I don't know why Alex Haley was was like this. There have been rumors that he had been struggling financially and needed to and needed to make ends meet. Maybe that's the thing. I don't. I mean, you know, this is before lying to go viral was a thing, But I mean, I don't. I don't understand why he would do this. There have been other reports that he was more conservative and wanted to sort of disparage Malcolm and he thought that by using doctor Kings uh by sort of fabricating doctor King's statements, that maybe he could disparage Malcolm and discredit him. I don't know, um, but this is just as a former journalism student, this is at best unethical fabrication and I don't even really want to think about what it is at its worst. So and I also want to say this because I've posted this before and somebody responded to me personally and said, why are you going back and trying to tear down the work of a black journalist. So just to address that because I know it will come up because people like Roots, and there have been controversies with that as well. So this is not the first time Alex Tayley is in trouble and that his work is in trouble. But this is not going back to discredit a black journalist. This is the truth coming to light. This is exposing what would we say, a sixty year rift within our community that was built upon a lie. That type of stuff needs to happen. Okay, if a legacy has changed because we find out new information, then so be it. Okay, we do not continue to build upon a lie simply because we don't want to upset what we already believed. Like I said, where there's smoke, there is fire. So there has already been problematic things with Alex Haley as far as it was with Roots and other works of his and now this, and I would also encourage people just when you read the autobiography of Malcolm X, because it was written by Alex Haley, just read it carefully, don't hold onto it as gospel. But for me, this is this was such a pivotal thing that happened yesterday when this article dropped, because for me, it just it just once again symbolizes and represents that history is not always written in stone, it's not always factual. Sometimes it can just be whoever decided to write it a certain way, and that's what that's what becomes history. Sometimes it's an agreed upon set alive. We don't necessarily know, and so that for me, obviously, the big thing that this does is it it puts into a whole like the rift that we thought there was between King and X. But it also because of what we mostly know about Malcolm X stems from that autobiography, also puts Malcolm more into the shadows for me because I necessarily don't know what's true and what's not about about this historical figure. So I'm glad you're here to talk about this with me, Dario, because I'm I'm fired up. Man. You know this this is a really big deal, and I'm not sure if people really understand how big of a deal this is. So to kind of break it down for people who are not in our community and who maybe listening and don't, you know, fully understand the dynamics. So there has been a rift like like Dante said, a sixty year plus rift in the black community. Sometimes it bubbles up to the surface a lot of times. It's something that we don't really talk about publicly, but if you're in the community, you know, right. And there was a split that occurred in the late sixties early seventies around this period of time between what you would call the black middle class and black elite and the Black working class and black poor and Malcolm and Martin or what we thought we knew of Malcolm and Martin tend to be the lynchpin to that, because the black middle and black elite, for the most part, leaned more towards Martin, and Malcolm's message was more tailored to the black working class and the black poor. And our community has been taught for sixty years that these two trains of thought were incompatible with one another, That not only could you not work together, but the two ideas are diametrically opposed to one another. So the idea of non violent social change that was preached by Martin Luther King, or the idea of self determination by any means necessary that was preached by Malcolm X, that those two ideologies were incompatible with one another. And for sixty years, these two trains of thought have divided our community. And one of the things I said on social media, this divide has made it impossible in a lot of cases for us to plan strategically to help advance better cause is better outcomes for the black community. So everything, So just think about this, y'all. Every every divide that you see among the black community, whether it's Black Republicans versus Black Democrats, whether it's Black liberals versus Black conservatives, whether it's all and everything in between. You know what I mean, the Hotel Brothers, the Adas Brothers, the whatever you call yourself, the conscious Black conservatives, whatever you identify yourself with. If you look at all of these different dividing lines, they are the fruit of that route. Ironically, of the perceived divide between Malcolm and Martin, and the fact that that so called divide was largely built on a lie is outrageous and has so many reverberations historically and to the present debt. Because another thing that they pointed out in that article is that sometimes Malcolm and Martin were intentionally being foils to one another, in other words, playing good cop backhop because they both wanted to get to the same destination. They may not agreed with each other's tactics, but that dividing line between the two was not as clear cut as people said it was, and that is enormous. The reverberations for that historically and to the present day is huge. And I agree Alex Haley should be viewed as a discredited journalist, a discredited author, because this isn't the first time that there's been questions about about it content. There are questions about plagiarism and the historical accuracy of roots. So this think the first time that there's been an Alex Hayley problem. So I think it's pretty clear not only should he be viewed as discredited, but the damage, the damage that he's done to the Black community by telling that lie. It's indescribable. Doctor get the last work, yep. And and just if you want a preview of what lie he told King said, or how he told the lie, the transcript of the interview was found. It's about eighty four pages. I believe it was in I believe Jonathan and I when he was doing his research, was in the It was in the Duke Library. But the transcript of that entire of his of Allotay's entire interview with King, he found it. I think it was page sixty. I don't have the article in front of me, Please please read it. I believe it was page sixty where the major criticism, supposedly of Malcolm X came up. However, it appears what Alex Hayley did was he took King's quote about Malcolm X, which was actually for two people who we thought were diametrically opposed, it was actually quite complimentarly. Like I said, King talked about how he understood Malcolm's passion in his aggression, He understood where it came from, but he just didn't believe that violence would get us to where we needed to go. But he made sure he said, you know, I don't think he's basically said, I don't think he's bad. I don't necessarily, you know, I just don't think that his approach. He said, he didn't want to make it seem like he had all the answers, and that Malcolm may have some of the answers exactly. And and so what Hailey did was he took that quote and use other quotes where Malcolm was, where Martin was critical not of Malcolm, but of other institutions and of other people, and brought them together. That's what happened. And I don't you know, I somebody who was in journalism school. I wanted to be a journalist at one point, Darbiel. I know you've been in the media a long time, so you had you understand journalistic journalism and its ethics. That's about as bad as you can go. That is about as low as you can go. Um and I I mean there is to call Alan I mean it feels nice to call him disgrace. It feels nice to say he's we got a discredit him. Because that is about as bad as you can That's that's terrible. You cannot I mean if you did that. I mean, plagiarism is one thing, right, that's that's awful. But if you give me a quote, if you give me an interview, darbio, and on page one of my transcript, you say one thing, and on page two of my transferred, I have you saying another thing, And I say, well, you know what would be a great quote is if I just took some of his first quote and took some of his second quote on page two and made him one quote. You can't do that breaking every rule. So, um, this is I would really just encourage people to read this article. Um, I'm actually I actually was kind of indifferent on the on the book that's supposed to come out, and now I'm looking forward to the book like man, you know, like another Martin Luther King book. I didn't know that I need it, but now I'm like, I gotta read this one. So this is. Yeah, this this shockwaves through the community. And really it I mean to be honest, it should send shockwaves through the nation. Absolutely absolutely, it should change the way a lot of people think about a lot of things. Let them know how to follow you, sorry, follow me on Instagram and Twitter at tape right t A E b R y E this O'Malley. Let him know how to follow you. You can follow me on Instagram at real Robin O'Malley just like I said earlier. My cash apps the same, just in case she was wondering. And you can actually, I mean, even though I hear you know TikTok whatever is, it's either in or it's out. But you can follow me on there that is the same user name. 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