Ep. 368 - Talking Ron DeSantis's mishandling of Black History controversy, Mississippi Police Brutality and more
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Ep. 368 - Talking Ron DeSantis's mishandling of Black History controversy, Mississippi Police Brutality and more

On this week's episode the team talks about the horrific torture of two black men by 6 white officers in Mississippi and asks the question of why the media didn't cover the story more? Also, the show explores Florida Governor Ron DeSantis's mishandling of the controversy over his state's Black History standards, Robin gives a special dedication to her friend that recently passed away and more.
This is the FCB podcast network. Great when they try to jaw boot change that dot dog. We don't listen to y'alls the countdog. We don't listen to y'alls to the out dog. Make a scream out down like a sound ug because the rockets in the clown like a ball tuned into the charge from the outlog. Tuned into the charge from the outlog. Welcome to the Outlaws. This is Darboa Kingpin tomorrow alongside Robin on'malley and Dante Bride. Don't forget too Like us on Facebook at Facebook dot com slash the Outlaws Radio. Follow us on Twitter and Instagram at the Outlaws Radio. We have a lot of things to discuss today, but first, Dante, how you doing, sir? I am good. I am good. Back from from Vegas. Um. I went to that Spence Crawford fight and also got to stand in one hundred and fifteen degree heat, so h minus that it was a great trip. Yeah, you never did uh say anything about old boy looking like Martin when Martin got into in the match with Spence got done up. But that was something that I mean, I was I he got a lot of fans and I liked Spence, but we knew that I was coming. Well, I knew that was coming. Who did you have your money on? I knew you had your money on somebody. Oh Crawford, Crawford, I've been saying for years, ever since that fight became a reality. Crawford was smoke him. He beat breaks off. Yeah, he beat the dog snot out of him. And I feel bad because I like Spence, but I like Crawford too. But that was one where it was that was not pretty. No, that was an easy money maker for me. That was an easy money maker. I got to pay for my entire trip because of that fight. So shout out to them, miss O'Malley. Uh, considering the week you've had in we'll get to that in a second. But other than that, how are you doing? Um? I'm here? Uh No, I mean I'm okay, I would say, humble, living, you know, vibeing out, getting ready for school to start. Um, which, by the way, it has not started yet. And if they these schools are already stressing me the f out like I'm already doing and it didn't even start yet. Yeah, back to school, that set. Back to school. You gotta ramp back up, man, listen, I need to get into what Dante doing, Okay, because these school supplies meles in your pocket. I bet, I bet man. By the way, I was gonna say I was jealous of Dante until he talked about that the heat. I mean, I love the sun. I love the heat the best. I've been to Vegas before, and that heat ain't no joke. The desert eat is no joke. So was that compared to Texas? Yes, that's right, we did. We went to Texas together. So yeah, you remember how hot that was, how like immediately you went from the hotel to outside and you went from like air conditioning to being outside for like two point five seconds, not even It was just like Devil's spit point five seconds. And I thought I was gonna have a heat ship. Which, by the way, darthy O, that was exactly a year ago. It was exactly a year ago. It popped up on my memories and I'm like, oh, look, last year we was in Texas. Yeah, so that was yeah, that was Nante. Would you've been to Texas before, right? Yeah? Yeah, you would say that heat is similar, right, the Texas heat in the in the Vatty heat, it's different because it's really hot. But it's different because in Nevada you got that dry heat and then Texas is humid. Yeah, that heat was something I don't know, I think might be worse. My my cousins from Vegas say that humidity because we have in Cleveland when it gets hot, we have humidity heat. They think that's worse. I think Nevada heat is worse that humidity. When it gets really hot and it's really human, it gets hard for me to breathe. Um. So I don't know, man, I I would probably take the Vegas heat because you know, I'm not really in the heat that much out of Vegas like this time, because I was waiting on it, like we were waiting, but like most of the time in the heat. Yeah, you was in it this time though, Yeah, so it's like that part is bad, but like most of the time I'm not, I'm not really What was the temperature, What was it? What was the temperature? It was like one between one, like one thirteen, between one thirteen and one twenty, so it was about the same about as Texas. Yeah you hear how casual he said that, like, oh it was one thirteen to one twenty. I've been out there when it's been worse. Bro, I've been out there. I've been out there. It was like one twenty two, one twenty three. You can cook food on the hood of a car. Yea, that is insane. How do people live like that? They don't go outside? Yeah? No, I can't live like that either. Like I love summer weather. And here's the thing. Could you imagine being poor in Nevada where you can't afford an air conditioner? Like everybody got an air conditioning. You have to it's like necessary. Yeah, it's like having a it's like having heat living here when you live here the homeless, the homeless ain't got a Yeah, man, that I couldn't imagine. I couldn't imagine, like because that desert he ain't. No joke is I've been in both, and I just think the sheer like when you get past one hundred degrees, like when you're talking one hundred and five hundred and ten, like that is that's that's next level. They're like, go ahead, bro, I was gonna say, it's never really the it being like warmer hot outside. It's always just the humidity is really what does Like why you can't just be nice? Being nice. You ain't got to be all human like I mean, but see, Nevada doesn't happen. Nevada has dry heat because it's in the it's in the desert. But still one hundred and thirteen is one hundred and thirteen. Yeah, yeah, no, I wouldn't. I wasn't a fan of that. Now. You know, here in Cleveland, we'll get we'll get one hundred days here and there, you know what I mean, Like during the dog days of summer, you'll get a couple of those, like in the middle of July or something. That's listen, the only well one of the upsides of living you know out here is okay, yeah, we get all the different seasons, and so we really don't you know, we're not dying all the time. And he like, so I think places like Nevada, Texas, Um, yeah, that's just places. I would just imagine you just visiting and not living. Yeah, no way, no, I can't do it. I can't do it. And I mean a lot of people complain about the snow. I like winter season. I don't like when you can't when there's so much snow, you can't move. That's what I don't like. If it's like light. If it's like light snow and it got that you know that Christmas look and all of that, Like I'm a sucker for that. Ipp Okay, wait a minute now, okay, so listen, I'll tell you this. When it comes to that, I'd be like, okay, so why can't it just snow on Christmas Eve and Christmas and just not snow it all? After we had a couple of years yea, it didn't even snow on Christmas and it was like, oh this, this doesn't feel right. You look outside and it's like all normal. It's like it doesn't feel right. I wish though, and then well we'll transition. But I wish though that our streets had what they have in Legacy Village, So for people don't. Legacy Village is a shopping center kind of like a you know, upper class shopping center in one of the suburbs here in Cleveland, and they have heated streets that deer, Yeah, they have a Legacy Village has heated streets, so like when and I think um Rocker Park might have it too, I'm not sure, but I know Legacy Village does. So like Park got some crazy things. I'll tell you that. Did you see their robot? They got a robot? I think I send it to you guys like they have now have. It's a security officer. Everybody is a robot. Oh lord, oh sing send that to us again, please, because we we're gonna have to talk about that. I'm I'm I am very uncomfortable with, uh, with law enforcement robots. Yeah, it's like what where do some big things come out? You know? And next thing, you know, like I said, I was reading the comments, there was kids, you know, I guess there was kids like putting teenagers like putting rocks around the robot so he can't he can't drive or turn or nothing. I'm like, man, you gotta get in trouble for that. That's like an assaultant of an officer. Well yeah, because like if you assault, if you do something to a police dog, that's like doing it to a person. So here we go with the like if you do something to the robot. Like this is why I don't like robot law enforcement, Like I think there's too many things wrong with it, and what if the robot is wrong? Right? Like I just I don't like it. I know New York is doing that too, and uh, Dante. Did they get those robots guns in New York? I don't know. I would hope, not hope you believe lethal force up to a computer, But I don't know. It wouldn't surprise me with a police apartment doing something silly like that and then having to pay a settlement later when the robot malfunction and kill somebody. Yeah, I can't remember. I can't remember if they if they got guns or not. But it's just I'm just very uncomfortable with the idea of with the idea of robo cop in real life, I'm very uncomfortable. Well, Crack, the one the Crocker Park does not have arms as far as I know. I mean, it's literally just like a silicone type shape. It's not like it don't have arms. It don't walk, it's literally just on wheels. And yeah, okay, I gotta take a look at this. I gotta take a look at this. So we'll we'll table that conversation for another time because I gotta I have to find out more about that. Um. But Robin, you have had a rough week. You are dealing with something that was very, very tragic and horrific, and so I thought it would be appropriate to at the beginning of the show, turn the floor over to you and let you say whatever you want to say, however you feel you want to talk about your friend. You know, whatever you want to do, the floor is yours. Oh trigger. But um, so, about a week ago, my friend that I've been friends with since I was about sixteen seventeen years old, which I'm thirty five. She's thirty three currently. Um. She has three young boys, twelve, eight, and seven. Her name is Christy. She was on the news. So a situation that happened was I'm not really sure if the backstory. I have my theories, but her significant other whom he is not the kid's father, but he Um, they were dating probably almost around a year, and they didn't seem to have the healthiest relationship. And I don't really know what happened the cause, but it appeared that he a situation happened while it was just him and her, the boys were not there, and he beat her to death in her head caused her to block out and she was unconscious, and he continued to attack her, and he stabbed her fourteen times and he left her there same day. Her two oldest boys, the twelve and the eight year old came in the house and they found her. Wow. Yeah, he ran and he left the state because he has family in that different states, so he ran, but he did get picked up after probably after so many days. I don't know, because I didn't find out until after she passed. I didn't even know she was in the hospital. But of course, you know, I would I would expect, you know, the family to keep you know, something like that quiet. So they had she was on the she was on life support and basically she was tu UM, which is a hospital west side of Cleveland UM and basically her father had to make the decision to pull the plug because basically she she was brain dead. They did open open her skull up to let it breathe and there was no movement um, so he had no choice but to pull the plug. Yeah, obviously, first of all, condolences to her family. That is absolutely horrific. And like you said, she's been on the news. The story has been on the news, and you're going to you're going to hear a lot about how she died, which is understandable because of the nature of what happened. But what I would like to do before we go to break is to talk a little bit about how she lived. So, Robin, what I want you to do is to give me your fondest memory of her, your favorite memory of her conversation that you all had, or her personality trades. Tell us a little bit about what she was like, something something positive that when you think about her, brings a smile to your face. That's that's how we're gonna end this segment. Well, Uh, Christie was like, um, so I already knew we was gonna be like best friends. That she was like my sister. I knew what it was gonna be. We actually ended up dating, uh brothers. That's how we met each other. But um, she is four eleven, so she a little short thing. Um, and she was a little spitfire. So you know, you you would have thought that I was the one that would have like, you know, ain't nobody messing with my girl? No, it was definitely the other way around. And she would have beat somebody up like she was something else. But I mean there has been they were numerous of memories with her. But um, one thing about Christie is she was very loyal. That's one thing that nobody can ever ever say otherwise of her. She was loyal. It didn't matter to what, whether it be relationship, friendship, whatever, she was always loyal. She was very honest, she was very funny. She's hilarious. I can't say half the things that she would say because you know around hair, um, well it's it's hilarious. Um. Needless to say, she will tell you about your life in the most classiest and disrespectful way possible. Um. I'll also mentioned that Christy was a Capricorn son. Yeah, so that that right there says it all, because you know, we were all like that. But yeah, there's there's a lot of good memories with her. But I can say if there's one thing about her, everybody that has ever endured her energy, they loved her. It's just you. You can't not you couldn't love her, couldn't not love her like she was just she was great. She's great. So I just I'm happy that I had the honor of being her friend. And that's where we're going to leave it. Condolences to you, Robin, and condolences to her family. We are praying for all of them during the course of their healing process and what they now have to go through the journey that they have to make now as a result of this terrible tragedy. All right, stay tuned, we'll be right back. These days, it seems like everybody's talking, but no one is actually listening to the things they're saying. Critical thinking isn't dead, but it's definitely low on oxygen. Join me, Kira Davis on Jeff Listen to yourself every week as we reason through issues big and small, critique our own ideas, and learn to draw our talking points all the way out to their logical conclusions. Subscribe to Just Listen to Yourself with Kira Davis an FCB radio podcast on Apple, on Spotify, iHeart, or wherever you get your podcasts, talk real conversations. We got the Yes, this is the Laws Radio show. Welcome back, Welcome back. You're listening to the Outlaws. Make sure that you subscribe to the show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, iHeart, or wherever you get your podcast And if you listen to the show on Apple, make sure you leave us a five star review and a comment is very important for the algorithm and for those of you already done so, thank you, oh so very much. We got a couple of topics that we're just gonna hit real quick, and then we're gonna go to break and get ready for tea time, which is going to be fun. Um So quickly, Dante, another indictment and another week of the person who they're trying to run out of the political atmosphere. His poll numbers are going up. They're not going down, They're going up. Your thoughts this you took hot takes from me? Um? But yes, similar, Oh no, It's it's all good because I can use that to sort of pivot to the other the other interesting topic in politics this past couple of weeks. But but yeah, man, you know, Trump is a very interesting He's going to be such an interesting case in American history in like forty years when we all look back and be like, wow, we really lived through like the quote Trump era, which is like, I mean, this guy is a political enigma that we have never seen before. And I think it's a combination of a lot of things with him and why he's he's so beloved by his group. But I also think the reason why republic why a lot of Republicans are just clinging to him. And I'll touch on this in top in Hot takes is because they're just you know, for years I have been saying that the Democrats don't have a deep bench, but apparently the Republican Party doesn't either, because I mean, it shouldn't be like you should be able to pivot from a guy that's now been indicted with three or four times, but when you really don't have anybody else, it's hard to pivot. And so his supporters are only getting more you know, more loud, more boisterous. But I mean the guy who's second is like destroying his campaign like one racist day after another. Right, So like they don't really you know what I'm saying, They really don't have anybody else viable. Like we both wish that the guy who we would like to take the bull by the horns was more viable, but in this era, it's just not gonna happen for him. So like I just feel, you know, I kind of feel bad for him. But then again, I'm like, you know, Trump is just in a name like we I don't He's something that we won't fully understand I think until it's all behind us. Yeah, they're right, they'll right history books about this, And I'm gonna point this out real quick and then we'll move on to the next topic. But I think there's a couple of things going on here. One, Trump was vote. People voted for Trump to blow the system up. That was the whole point. This is why you know a lot of voters they don't trust the system. In my opinion, they have valid criticisms of the system, many of them, so I get it. But of course, if you are someone that doesn't trust the system and you supported someone who had the sole purpose of blowing the system up, of course you're not going to abandon that guy when the system attacks him, because the whole point, the reason why you voted for him in the first place, because remember when he ran into twenty sixteen, it was like twenty seven other people running against him. You had plenty of choice, you had plenty of options. But the reason why you voted for him in the first place is because you wanted him to blow You wanted someone to blow the system up. And as a result of that, you know, I see a lot of progressives in the media. They're like, we don't understand why his numbers aren't going down, because they don't because the voters don't trust you. Not only are his numbers not going down in the Republican primary. He's tied with Biden in the polls. Now, mind you, I saw Larry Sabateau, who is not who is very anti Trump, and he's he's a he's a I don't know if I'll call him a polster, but he's in that field. And he pointed out on his social media that if he's tied in the polls, that means he's in the lead in the electoral college just by the nature of the way the country is, and that was a hole of registered voters, not likely voters. So he is he's been indicted seven hundred and fifty seven times, and he is he has at this point he is just as likely to be president as Biden is. That tells you two things. It tells you one, how weak Biden is, and it also tells you that people want to blow the system up and they're still going to go with the guy who's going to blow the system up. Second point, Rohn de Santis. Second, the number two guy. He continues, that was actually one of the one of the topics I wanted to address real quick. He continues to shoot himself. He does what does Khalid say, Khalid has a phrase. He doesn't say this about the Santist says it's in general, but it's like people who shoot themselves in the ass and then complain that their ass hurts. That's what Rhyn Desantist does. Now here's this new thing, Dante. Obviously there's a controversy now concerning the Orlando Magic because the I believe the ownership of the Orlando Magic donated money to Rhyn Desantists. Under normal circumstances, that would be expected. You're in that state, you want to curry favor with the people who run that state, you donate money. That's what happens, right, Like, whether we like it or not, it's like that ugly you know, we don't want to see how the sausage is made, but that's how the game goes. Under normal circumstances, that would be fine. But the problem is the Santists is just off of a week and a half of a controversy over freaking slavery in twenty twenty three. So obviously a league that is majority black and a team that his majority black is not going to be happy with that. Now here's the thing. All he had to do if ron de Santists would have listened to the black folks in his own party a week and a half ago, two weeks ago, he could have squashed this and it would have been over. But because he's so arrogant and he doesn't listen, he keeps making it worse and worse and worse and worse. And what happens now is the people who are on the Santists team wants to argue about the merits of the slavery thing, and you're going to lose that argument every single time. Which is should have done, is did what Byron Donalds told you to do, which was just a just that one sentence. Now you have an even bigger problem. And now because of the response, the butt hurt response that Ryan de Santists gave to to to the NBA's player Association for their criticism of him, which is what he always does. Now you've extended this controversy for another week now. Decentists may not give a damn about black voters, but I'm sure he gives a damn about racially moderate southern suburban white voters who he needs and who he's starting to lose because of crap like this. Dante, your thoughts his campaign is d o a UM. I've said his campaign is dead right for a guy who at one point has some promise, and we've we talked about this a bunch on the show. But he won the gubernatorial race against Andrew Gillam by the skin of his teeth, in large part because he got over twenty percent of a black vote in Florida, because he actually came into our communities and talked about school choice and how that would be like. It was actually refreshing to study his campaign because for a long time on this show, we've always talked about Republicans need to get active in minority communities, especially in a black community, and talk to us about issues that we care about and how their platform can benefit us. Specifically. Ron DeSantis actually did that, and that's part of the reason how he overperformed with black voters and especially black women, and how he became governor of Florida right and then he went he went from that, doubled down on his support for a First Step at nash Or before that, before his goognatorial run, he was a supporter of the First Step back when he was in Congress, and then after being elected as governor, helped create Usher in Florida's own first step at so it's like, wow, maybe this guy had something to essentially saying that slavery was basically like a jobs program for black for black people in America, and then not only that, when you get confronted, you double down on it. Right. So a party that was already struggling with black outreach at the national level has now seen one of the two leaders for president or well for for the nomination, the second guy for for the nomination. Essentially, now he will be labeled as a racist. Um and I don't want to call him a racist, but his behavior and his absolutely like his just unwillingness to i mean, just pivot from something that you're not gonna win, doesn't speak well on his character, nor does it speak well on his campaign. So his campaign is done. Like Ron Desentis is not gonna be president in Nit says he's not gonna Here's the way Ron Descantis can be can win, the can win the non nation. Trump would have to die or go to jail. That's it. Like between now in Iowa, He's got to die or go to prison. That's it. Otherwise, Ron de Santis is not beating him. He's just he's not. And here's the other thing with this. People are not gonna forget this. Ron De Santis' is not winning a general election in this country. He's just not. Because if you thought, if you thought that the left would mobilize, if you thought Democrats would mobilize against Trump because of his problems with race or his perceived problems with race, what do you think is going to happen? When? When, when this stuff becomes bigger than a Republican issue with Ron de Santis, with his issues on race, what do you think is gonna happen? Then he would get less, he would get less percentage of the black vote than like Mitt Romney. He's toast. And here's the other thing too, um couple of things. One, there is actually precedence for a presidential candidate getting votes in while locked up. Eugene Debs won the Socialist Party nomination while in jail and got a one hundred or two hundred and some thousand votes while in jail. So even if Trump goes to jail, I don't think I don't think the Santists can't beat them because people can still vote for you while you're in jail. So that shows you how bad it is. I was over Trump could go to jail and the Santists still can't beat them. So so there's there's that. But the other part two is the point that you're exactly right on, and this is what they don't understand. And if there are the Santists fans listening, because I know I know some of you, and I know I know members of his team, this is the point you're missing because this fight that you have right now with black folks, including black Republicans, is undercutting your argument of being more electable than Trump. That has destroyed that argument because we all know that if Rond de Santist is the nominee, liberals and black people are going to mobilize like never before to make sure his ass does not get in the White House. We all know that. So you have totally undercut that. And if we're going to be honest, here's a hot take. If we're going to be honest, if we're comparing the two, if we're just looking at Trump and the scientists on black issues, Trump's actually better and and what black Republican worth there sawt would actually come out and support RHN de scientists in a general election, after after using your voice against him in the primary lead up to say hey hey, hey, hey hey, this is the racist. You can't do it. It's no different than than publically different Democrats when we criticize Democrats were saying, y'all not speaking out against the racism in your party, or when you do, you still support the people who you claim a racist. Well, you'd be doing the same thing. Yeah, with somebody who essentially doubles down on slavery as being job corps and then come out and then actively support him. I would have to look at you funny, because I personally could never do something like that. Well, I mean, he's destroyed and and and it's like, look, if you and here's the thing, I'm not telling you who to vote for, and if he becomes the nominee, I'm not telling you who to vote for. But like the point of Dante may coming out publicly supporting this guy, after all, it is you're basically taking whatever credibility you have in the community, You're putting in in a pile. You're putting it on the floor, and you're setting it on fly on fire. Yea. And this and this was all this all could have been avoided. This all could have been avoided. This was because of his arrogance and his stubbornness and his refusal to listen. I thought he was supposed to be better than Trump on stuff like that. That's what they told me. But no, he's he's he's just a stubborn Actually, I mean he's worse. He's been going all in the hot takes. But but this is the thing here, though, that really trips me out about the Santists is the is his supporters and people that actually still think that he's got an opportunity to win. The worst part of this is ahead for him because he is if you ever watched the Decantist speech or listen to him talk. And I'm not saying this to like be mean or like to pile on it. It just is what it is. The Santist is not Bill Clinton in terms of his charisma. He's not Barack Obama in terms of his ability. He has the personality of a plastic plant exactly. So what he gets it's on a debate stage when he's already down by twenty points and he gets on a debate stage with Trump, it's it's only gonna get worse because debater already, he's not a debater of a personality on a debate stage than Ron de Santis. And that's saying something yeah, yeah, so, but hey, they don't want to listen. You know, my grandmother used to say, a hardhead make a soft ass. So you want to you want to keep ignoring these criticisms. You want to keep ignoring people telling you stop doing it like that. Okay, when you get blown out next year, don't say you weren't warn Yeah, I would be. So. I cannot wait for the betting markets to open on a Republican primary because his primary, his candidacy is not going to last long. It just is not. Um he got three, he got the first three stage. If he lose and he's down by a lot in all three of the first three states, Dude, if you get blown out in Iowa, if you get blown out in New Hampshire, and you get blown out in South Carolina, it's over any will good good good luck, good luck, good good luck. You have fun with that, but you've you've earned it because you don't listen. All right. The last story I wanted to get to uh in this segment was something that was horrific, and I am stunned that I'm only hearing about this story today. There were six officers in Mississippi who pleaded guilty to federal charges civil rights violations. The six law enforcement officers and this is quoting from Mississippi Today dot org. Six law enforcement officers who called themselves the Goon Squad, pleaded guilty Thursday to federal charge is they tortured two black men, hurled racial slurs, and used a sex toy on them before shooting one of them in the mouth. This is the most abhorrent police brutality case I think I've ever heard. I'm just I should have I should have gave y'all a children warning before I'd said that, but I'm giving you one now. If you got kids in the room, get them out of the room. I'm just gonna read a little bit of this. On January twenty fourth, during an early morning raid, the officers broke down the door of Eddie Terrell Parker's home in Braxton, Mississippi, without a warrant. They restrained two men, him and his friend Michael Jenkins, while beating before beating, tasing, and threatening them with rape. The officers shot multiple round mounds in the air, threatening and killed the men, before a deputy placed his gun in Jenkins's mouth and fired. The bullet lacerated Jenkins's tongue, shattered his jaw, and shredded his neck, nearly killing him and causing permanent injuries, according to jenkins lawyers man. According to the criminal information filed Thursday, the white deputies handcuffed Jenkins and Parker before beating them and calling them the end word, monkey and boy, telling them to stay out of Rankin County and go back to Jackson or to their side of the Pearl River. While deputies taunted the two men, one of them repeatedly drive stunned Jenkins with its taser. When deputies discovered a dildo in the home, one of the deputies forced it into the mouth of Parker and attempted to force it into the mouth of Jenkins. According to the information, one of the deputies then threatened to annually rape the two men, but when he moved moved toward jenkins backside, the deputy stopped when he noticed that Jenkins had defecated on himself. While one of the deputies held the two men down, another deputy poured milk, alcohol, and chocolate syrup onto their faces and into their mouths, and one of the deputies poured cooking grease on Parker's head, according to the information, while one threw eggs at the men. Officers then ordered the two men to strip naked and shower off to wash away evidence of abuse. According to the information, one of the deputies guarded the door to make sure they didn't escape. Parker was struck with a wooden kitchen implement. Parker was assaulted with a metal sword, and two officers smacked Parker with pieces of wood, according to the criminal Information, and one, two, three four officers tazed Jenkins and Parker repeatedly. The officers pleaded guilty to depriving the two men of their rights by neglecting jenkins need for medical care. According to the information. The officers also pleaded guilty to obstruction of justice. They attempted to cover up the shooting by planting a gun in the home and accused Jenkins of attempting to shoot at one of the officers. According to court records. They also planted meth and phetamine on Jenkins and charged him with drug possession, disorderly conduct, and assaulting an officer. Parker was falsely charged with possession of drug paraphernalia and disorderly conduct. The charges against the two have been dismissed. The officers then stole the hard drive from a surveillance camera system in Parker's home and threw it in a river. This is the most barbaric. I don't even know how to describe this. I'll I'll close with this. Jenkins and Parker allegend their lawsuit that their torture, because they're suing as they should, allegend the torture that there that their torture was racially motivated because throughout the incident the deputies used racial slurs and accused the men of sleeping with white women down Tab will go to you first, and then Robin. I don't have anything other than Lord Jesus. I don't have nothing else to say. I mean, I'm that's a I don't know. I don't know. I yeah, I don't know. I hadn't heard this until just now. Wow. Yeah, wow. That was like something straight out of the nineteen fifties like that, It's like reading that was like reading the Jim Crow South right there. That's one of the most disgusting things I've ever heard, and I'm not like, that's not hyperbole, that's that's not I'm not saying after chocolate, that's really one of the most disgusting things I've ever heard. I don't even know how to like, I don't. I don't. It's lost words, Robin, your thoughts on that you know more and more lately, I think to myself and I often say it all loud. You know, it's this world is I don't know if it's like always just I mean, I'm not gonna say always just been an ugly place, because you know, it's the world is beautiful? What is wrong with the human beings? Like I just, are we losing our damn minds? Like you just harming each other and doing these horrible, horrible things Like I just I don't understand. How can you live with yourself to do things like this, To treat people like they're just nothing. They are living human beings. They have a mother, they have a father, they have siblings on uncles, and you just treat them like just like the scum underneath your shoe, like you ain't you ain't nothing, You sain't nothing, You're you're disposable. And that's really how Like, I'm just so sick of it. This is why I am slowly becoming introverted, Okay, because it's it's not it's insane. It is insane, you know, whether it be officers or one of our fellow peers, is I just don't understand what is what is going on with seek help? Go seek help, man, Like I'm never gonna stop preaching that. Get there to me, y'all need to go to get help if it goes to this extreme where you have to harm somebody like that, Like I couldn't even imagine. Maybe that's just me because my heart the way it is, but like I just couldn't imagine. That's how can you bring yourself to do something like that? That's the personification of evil. That's pure evil, just animalistic, barbaric, like just evil evil. And and the last thing I'll say on this and then we're gonna go to break and then we're gonna we're gonna switch it up here. Um, I am going to point out that the media is full of crap because why wasn't this on every news channel in America. I found out about it today. Dante just told you he just found out about it just now on the show. I've had people tweeting at me or exing whatever the hell you call it now, saying they didn't hear about this story until I posted about it. The media is garbage when you have a case like this, This case deserves wall to wall coverage. This is one of the most horrific things I've ever heard. This is one of the most egregious, outrageous police brutality abuses that I have ever heard in my thirty six years of living. This reminds me of stuff that was in our history books. This was like some Mississippi burning type stuff. Why is our American media not doing a good job of informing us on the things that matter? A little article here, a little article there, that's not enough. When it was politically convenient, you had no problem covering these cases. But now in a situation like this, which is absolutely abhorrent, why doesn't this get wall to wall covered because it's not an election year yet you're full of crap. This story is abhorrent. The way that those officers behaved was abhorrent, and most of us are only hearing about it now when they just played guilty. Where was the media. Where was the media? Where was the coverage of this? I ain't talking about one story at two o'clock in the morning news that ain't nobody watching this? This is wall wall material right here. But because you can't get nothing out of it, because it's not an election year, it's not that important to you. Shame on you, Shame on all of y'all who use our issues for your benefit. But when you can't benefit from it, you get silent and you shut your mouth and you don't say anything. We'll be right back. This is the Outlaws radio show. Welcome Welcome back. You're listening to the Outlaws and Dante. What the hell did Robin send us in the group text? I don't even want to talk about it. It's probably some nonsense. It was a sponsored a low ride. I think you want to look at that. Tell him what I was. I was about to tell them, But you know what, Robin, before we go to the tea time, you'll tell him what it was. What was it? It's jeans shorts but in panties, a low rise booty dim shorts. They they called them low rise boot booty denim shorts, but they literally look like thongs. In gene form. So, Dante, why do you think the algorithm sent that ad to Robin? That nonsense on whatever? No, because I was just shopping for a dress on she and for a damn wedding. I needed a dress, which by the way, has been a struggle. But yeah, so when you go on an app, they start sending you sponsored ads, Dante, is it is it that or does the algorithm know that Robin like to have her cheeks out? Don don't ever have her cheeks out? Y'all? All right? All right? Uh about the chill ah, that was good? All right? Uh? Now is the time show that we like to call Tea Time with Row. Turn it up the latest celebrity news and gossip. It's Tea Time with Row on the Outlaws Radio show. All right, Jaws, So we're gonna switch up this energy. Okay, we're gonna take it. We're gonna take the hot spot off me and you know, after the last few things we had going. But so, if you know who Lizzo is, she is a performer. Um and she she she Oh, I don't even know where to begin with this one. But so Lizzo, she she had some tours going on and apparently in some other um stays, there is a thing where you do things at this particular show that is very questionable. Um So Lizzo is looking. She is in the hot seat right now. She is being accused of overworking dancers and making the group re audition in an excruciating twelve hour rehearsal that she was dissatisfied you know what I mean to cook you my word out with being uh and would be fired and sent home. Not only that, Lizzo is accused of firing a dancer for challenging her claim that the group was drinking before performs. Lizzo is also accused of making a thinly veiled comment relating to a dancers weight gain, and later later firing her for recording a meeting while suffering an eye condition. Lizzo is accused of coercing a dancer into touching a woman's breast at a strip club, despite the dancer opposing. Lizzo is also accused of inviting her dancers to a nude cabaret bar without disclosing the specifics of the performance before I continue to the next part of that. She's also accused of forcing her dancers to eat a banana out of the the jj of performers at said club or whatever show, whatever it is. But apparently this is a show that goes on, happens all the time. And so with that being said, allegedly Lizzo offered for them to come. They did not have to come, and she didn't hold a gun to their head and force them. But then again, if you really think about it, you know also there's that same sense where you deal with artists, whether it be male or female, where if you don't do as they say, you'll lose your job or they'll end your entire career, and you know how that usually goes. By the way, that was not said, But that is just me throwing out my personal opinion. Now on top of that, I believe it is somebody in connection with Lizzo. I don't know if it's her, Yeah, I don't. I don't know who she is to her, but so her name is Shirlene Quigley. Shirlene Quigley is also in the same show. She is being accused of trying to convert the dancers into her religion. Shirlene quickly is accused of scolding the dancers for having premarital sex Shirlene Quigley is accused of unwarrantedly discussing a masturbation and sexual fantasies with the group. It says three of the former dancers have filed the lawsuit against Lizzo, accusing the singer of the sexual harassment and creating a hostile work environment. The dancers were allegedly weight shamed and pressured while at the strip club. Now, on top of that, so, with that being said, Lizzo did not quite choose the best lawyer. I would say, so you might know when I say the person's name, you might know. You might know. So Liz always being represented by Hollywood lawyer Marty Singer for harassment and the toxic workplace workplace lawsuit. Now do you know who that is? I do not. Oh, okay, so he represented Bill Cosby, he represented Chris Brown. Um, let's see Bill Cosby, Johnny Depp, Charlie Sheen, Chris Brown, Brett Ratner, and currently Jonah Hill. Oh well, he's he's the guy you call for this stuff. I guess, I guess. But yeah, I mean, I guess Bill Cosby is out. But maybe that's good. But you know, it's it's you know, my opinion on this. This whole thing is whether she forced them or didn't force them. Like let's say if she she didn't and she just threw it out there like hey you can go do this or I'm inviting you. Um, that's one thing, like it's but it's also at the same point like hey, you're my employer, so this is kind of weird. Um. But also in the same sense, like I mean, I'm not saying she's like pan on them, you know, but we got r Kelly, we got uh who else do to pan? Uh? There's a lot of people doing p and these days. Yeah, so you know a p didd that's who is um Alley alleged Wait wait wait you got alleged even though he yeah, don't get us sued. Allegedly Yeah, comes out of his girlfriend, his friend person's mouth or whatever. Anyway. Um, So in the same sense, it would be you know, dealing with a man in this industry. You know when when when a woman's being sexual harassed, and you know, when a man is trying to grope on a woman or make a woman do something or say if you don't do this, I'll take your career away. And I've seen it plenty of times, Like I'm sure you've you guys have heard plenty of stories where that has happened, you know, with a lot of the mails, And so I truly believe that if Lizzo did do this, she should definitely, you know, pay the price as well for you know, making these decisions, because at the end of the day, there are consequences to our actions. But yeah, that's pretty much my my opinion on it, because yeah, you're wrong, You're wrong. Yeah, it's a little disturbing U. The stuff that allegedly she was having them Dove, I've heard, and now that now that the lawsuit has happened, you know, there's been more reports coming out, even for people who aren't play to the lawsuit, saying that, um, she's a tyrant. And here's one thing I like to point out, she got a lot of damn nerves to be fat shaming somebody. Like really, yep, go ahead, Dante your thoughts. Yeah, I was just gonna say that. I mean, I you know, as much as she takes online and you know, all this stuff for her size and her figure and stuff, you would think that she would not be body shaming anybody of any size. But that's usually how people are. Man. I just I don't know, man I saw this story. This was one of those stories were just like of female rappers. Whenever I see a story about them, what do I do? I just keep scrolling because I don't listen to them. I don't pay attention to them. I've never intertained, and when they do something wrong, I'm just like, huh, keep scrolling. Send your hate sending your hate messages to Hey, Brian D. It's not that interesting except for like, you know, the occasional oh I Spice did that one move where like she turned you know, that type of stuff. Okay, we'll talk about it. But other than that, I don't want to hear nothing that these people got to say. Especially I was out on Lizzo when she went half naked to the basketball game, which we talked about on this show. I was out on her end. I was like, yep, not my cup of tea. Don't want to hear nothing she got to say. Don't want to hear none of her music. But that don't, like I said, that doesn't put her into you know, that puts her in the conversation in a category with like other you know, female rappers. I'm just not interested. And I will say this too, because of course when that happened at the time, people were like, oh, you know, you men are just being hypocrites and all this other stuff. It had nothing to do and we said this on the show. It had nothing to do with her side. We just didn't think it was appropriate for you to have your neked ass out in front of all them kids at a Lakers game. And before people get what I said misconstrued, I'm not interested in Darby. I'll tell you this, I'm not interested in you know, ninety eight percent of these new male rappers. Okay, I find myself listening to more jay Z every year than I ever have. You know why, because most of these new rappers that came out, you know, outside of like Kendrick uh or like a J. Coole somebody like that that came out after twenty twelve, all these dudes is drug at it. So I don't really want to hear them either. But I mean, this is I hate to say it, man, but you know I got to grow up on like jay Z and Little Wayne before he became a weirdo, and all the dope rappers from the nineties. I got to. You know that got to flow in to you know me growing up. I feel terrible for these kids because these guys to listen to nothing but drug addicts and want to be gangsters. You know I had. There was a friend of mine in Women who Can't Rap? Right, Yeah, a friend of mine told me this once. I'm sure you've probably heard this too. I was. It was some rapper I didn't like someone, one of these newer rappers, and they said, well, you know why you don't like them. You don't like them because you don't get high. If you got high, you would like I shouldn't have to take drugs in order to enjoy music. I don't sit lean, so we ain't got nothing in common, exactly, exactly. No, I don't want to do molly or percocets or xanax or fitting all. I don't want to do any of this other weird stuff y'all got going on because I don't want to be in an interview shaking like I saw one rapper who I won't name. Man, better say that, all right, NaN's Robin. So the next one is I personally, this is just my personal opinion. I don't know. I'm not gonna say, I don't know why. I absolutely know why. I cannot stand this girl. I do not like her. I don't like when I see her on my timeline, my news feed, her face, her voice, just her. I don't like her anyway. Jocelyn Hernandez, I don't even know what the girl does personally. I think she do music, like I'm pretty sure she'd do music. And the music, by the way, not my kindness. She put it off on reality TV, right, I think she is on reality TV. She does a lot of Spanish music, but she's getting more into English rap. But she needs to not, but she is. She had a situation that happened not long ago where she got into it with, um who did she get into it. It was it was a fight that she had got into it with, right, yeah, yeah, yeah, no, Floyd Mayweather's fight, Maywether's fight. That's right, that's right. So, um, she ended up getting into a fight, you know, that day and when she went into the back room, you know, she still had an attitude. She's trying to fight her boyfriend, you know, cussing her boyfriend out, flipping out, being crazy because she's just crazy. Um. So right now she is being charged with two felony accounts of battery on the law enforcement officer in the connection to that fight with Big Legs, because not only did she fight go off on Big Legs, you know, snatching her up trying then try to fight her boyfriend in the back room, going off on him, but she also swung on the officer um cussing him out as well. And that is why I personally do not take a liking to who she is as a person because it is just very toxic, very classless. Just I don't know, it's I personally, I just can't get with that type of energy. I mean, what says go not listen you know that topic you were just talking about, how they tell you you need to just you know, you got to get high to like, you know, vibe with them. This girl needs to get high. She needs to so she need to calm the hell down, you know, girl. She Wow. You know what's interesting? You know we always robin you know how, like we always joke that Dante is an old man. Right. The more and more I hear this stuff, the more and more I feel like an old man because I have no connection like this is this like the way that some of these folks behave. It's just so beneath my dignity. It's just it's just disturbing to me. So like I'm starting to I'm starting to get closer and closer to the to the Dante Bride school of old man is m because I don't feel any connection to this stuff at all. Your thoughts. I'm about to sound like an old man again because I don't know who this person is about to be honest with like, and I'm not even I'm not trying to be funny. I don't know who she is. If you tell me she got famous because of reality television, That's why I don't. I don't. I have no idea who she is. She love hip hop? I definitely, I'm not gonna lie to you. I literally just not long ago heard about her. Just can't remember what show she was on because I don't watch it, but I know she came from a reality like I'm in that y'all, remember that Jay Coos on Middle Child, where you like, I'm a little bro and big bro at once, Like I'm I'm young enough to know who she is, but I'm old enough to not really know where she came from. I'm saying because same. I have no idea who this person is at all. She calls she calls herself put the Puerto Rican princess. Right. Um, that's really all I know. I've I've seen one of her songs. I can't tell you the name of the song or how the song goes. She's a rapper, she's very she's very no interest. Yeah, she's very masculine. Um so she's not. I just don't get princess vibes. I'm sorry, noted. Yeah, so like and you know what, it's the crazy thing because here goes me, you know, giving my opinions. But I will um yaka argue with Jamma not me. But so I think you know, a lot as you guys were just talking about a lot of the young men, you know, how they got to grow up, the younger generation with a lot of this music. And you know, I think a lot of women, even women that are my age, Like a lot of these women that are they are they're lost, like no sense of direction, no self love, like I don't know, so much anger or something like. I mean, there's some guys that also listen to this type of music, but it's just like a lot of them just tend to listen to this type of music where it's like being raunchy, ratchet, classless, ghetto as hell, like fighting and disrespect. You know, just I can the list can go on and on. I ain't gotta tell y'all. I ain't gotta tell y'all what it is because y'all know what it is. But like, I just don't understand how this is the new thing. How is this the new thing that people like Joscelyn are famous. I don't understand that. So I'll let y'all know. All right, she is, Um, she's thirty six, so she's she's my age. She's a couple of months older. Actually, she was born in November of nineteen eighty six. She's known as Puerto Rican corintess. Like you said, um. She came to prominence as a main cast member of the v H one reality series Love and Hip Hop Atlanta. She appeared on the show for six seasons alongside her boyfriend Stevie J, with whom she started. She also started in the spin off STEVIEJ and Joscelyn Go Hollywood. So yep, it was from Love and Hip Hop Atlanta. That's how she got fans. You know that's so again that Robin said again, that's that explains it and says it all. That says it all. That's all you had to say is like, truthfully, these reality TV shows are that's what it is. That's what it is, oh man, because that's it's beyond me. Maybe I am also in the same sense where you are DARBYO, like you're in the middle. So like I'll be young cool. You know I'm young and cool, but I'm also you know, yeah, you know who they are, but you're old enough to not really do. I'm old enough to be like my how my dad always what is that noise? It's what you kids call music? Now I do it feels like it? Don't it feel like? It doesn't feel like like that's loud? Turn that jot turn. That's how I feel about every single rapper that came out after twenty fifteen, every female rapper period. I'm telling you, when did this start? How did this happen? Where are we going wrong? I don't I don't know where we went wrong. I don't know where this start. I don't know how we get it back. But if you want some good uh, if you want some good music, make sure that you go to first Class Hip Hop dot com. By the way, Um, all right, stay tuned, we have Dante's High Takes coming up. Jack here the hell else fuck up True Welcome back and listening to the Outlaws. Make sure that you follow the show on Like the show, Facebook and Facebook dot com, slash the Outlaws Radio, follow us on Twitter and Instagram at the Outlaws Radio. And now is the time of the show that we like to call it Dante's Hot Takes, telling the truth. Whether you like it or not, it's Dante Stakes on the Young Laws Radio show. So we touched on this a little bit earlier with Ron de Santis and his new education program for black history in Florida. And you know what I really think the problem was was We've seen this a lot of times with Republicans, but they can be so reactionary to what Democrats are doing that their reaction gets them in trouble. So, like Ron de Santis was that pretty popular in Florida basically by pushing back against Democrats, right, whether it was during the pandemic, right, We're just we're not shutting every thing down. We're gonna leave stuff open, or we're gonna open up sooner, right, because we're not gonna let the left dictate how we run our state, right, And he got applause for it. And then remember during the riots and the protesting, he was, you know, trying to push legislation that would essentially be like if you if you riot, or if you do X, Y and Z, like Floridians are gonna be able to take matters into their own hands and get out the streets. We're gonna charge you, you know. And he got applaud it for it on the right. And so I think his campaign against quote unquote wokeness is kind of what pushed him into let's tell the truth about black history and slavery, which if you're not gonna be right about if you're gonna push the line on something like that, you need to be either one hundred percent accurate or completely stay away. But what I realized in life too is that when people start to win, they start to feel I can do nothing wrong. But he kind of stepped in at this time, and I what really was interesting to me and Darvo, I really would want to hear your opinion on this is where does the Republican Party go from here? Because you kind of at a crossroads that you can't turn back from. Because Ron pushed so far and in his these new standards have pushed so far that it forced prominent black Republicans to speak out against them, and because Ron has had so many wins on the right over the last two years, really since the pandemic, he is essentially came out and said, boy, be quiet, We're not gonna let wokeness run our state and run our country. Now. It's interesting because you know, I wouldn't consider someone like Byron or Tim Scott to be considered woke, but it sort of does lead credence when people say all that wokeism or people when people say woke on the right, it's kind of just a code word for black. It kind of just because these are not who you would consider woke people. Tim's I've never thought Tim Scott was quote woke, right, But when you push back against them in your response is essentially did you read the standards or shut up? You know, just shut up and get in line, and they don't. It kind of makes me rethink and say, h well, maybe there's sort of an ideological civil war going on in the Republican Party. And if the correct side prevails, maybe just maybe this is what black people need to probably get some representation on that side. Right because if if if the Tim Scott, if that Byron down said, if that faction Sonny Johnson, if that side can prevail, maybe just maybe you could actually see the Republican Party start to do some good and maybe start to make rods with our community. If if our community can see so the black people in your party is not just gonna roll over and be okay with blatant racism or just the rewriting of history. Right. Oh, you have a the guy who's second second in the polls for a party nomination. Oh, you guys aren't just gonna let him get away with saying slavery was like job poor and slaves walked away with certain benefits afterwards. Oh you're not going to just stand for that. Huh okay, right there? Maybe that will allow more moderates and more black people who don't feel at home as with the Democrats. Maybe that'll lect them and whose values sort of aligned with conservatives, and maybe maybe they'll say, maybe I can become more active in a Republican part Maybe this is maybe I can I can vote for them on a national level. So I'm just curious to see where this where this goes, because I don't think that I don't think that you can. Like I said earlier, you can't go back to supporting Ron de Santis if you spoke out against this, and then you watch the way he doubled down on it, and then watch the way he sort of dismissed any concerns about it, I don't think you can go back to supporting him. He's not going to be the party nominee, but in the future, I don't think that he will. He nor anybody that was sort of on the wrong side of this, I don't think that you can support them loudy. So I do think that there is a fracture, and I'm just wondering how how deep that fracture is and what is the result of it. It'll be interesting to watch these next you know, eighteen months or two years play out. Yeah, you know what happens in a general for sure, Yeah, you know. I think and this is just my opinion based off of the sponsors that the the Santist team gave to this, I think they were unprepared for the level of backlash and the unity in the backlash. There was only a handful of black conservatives that were like, no, I don't have a problem with this. The vast majority of well known public black conservatives spoke out against that. So they weren't prepared for that, and you could tell as a result of their flailing in response. Instead of picking up the phone and saying, hey, how do I make this right, which is what he should have done, the Santists doubled down. And I will tell you this, and this is going to be controversial, but it's a fact. So I don't care how people feel about it, because it's a fact on that that shows me that the Santists is worse than Trump. You know why. When Trump made the Charlottesville comments, remember that and the backlash that came from those comments. Tim Scott criticized him publicly for those comments. The President reached out to Tim to meet with him in the White House and they had a conversation, a frank, honest conversation about the controversy, and according to reports, Trump asked Tim Scott, how do I make this right? You want to know how you got opportunity, zwns. That's how you got opportunity, zwns. So a policy that has directly benefited black people came from the former president putting his foot in his mouth, as he tends to do sometimes, but being honest enough to realize that he put his foot in his mouth and being willing to do something to fix it. Now, comparing contrast that response to run de Santis's response just put him upside by side and again, when you say this stuff, when you talk like this, I've had people accused me of being a Trump plant and all of this, and it's like, dude, I have criticized Trump publicly so many times. I can't even remember how many times I've criticized Trump publicly when he does or says something I disagree with. I don't love him, I don't hate him. I agree with him when he's right, and I disagree when he's wrong. I haven't endorsed or supported anybody in this race publicly, but right is right and wrong he's wrong. And at the end of the day, I can look at two relatively similar incidents and compare them and see how both people responded to him. Now Trump had the same arguments in terms of his Charlottesville comments as DeSantis us Now Trump Trump's arguments with his Descantis comments was people took me out of contexts Um, they're misquoting me. You know, the fake news didn't uh say what I said the right way. He had those same arguments, and he made those same arguments, but at the same time he picked up the phone and called Tim Scott and said, how do I make this right? That's the exact approach that RHN de Santis did not do. And to me, that tells you a lot about Ryan de Santis Dante your thoughts and then we'll close. Yeah, I mean, you just I'm just sort of in awe really, because you're really watching somebody who who had momentum at least within his party. I don't know if ryand Decantis could have could have won a general, but I mean, you know, he had a lot of momentum coming out of the pandemic, at least Republicans. And to watch him just basically like every single move he's made has been wrong, right, and then to have just the lack of awareness around it, and then, like you said, the lack of preparation also is just like, you know, if if I wasn't turned off about everything else, his lack of preparation and they're lack his team's lack of preparation in terms of the response that they would get. It would also be just a you know, just a turn off. I mean, he that's the one thing I don't like about politicians is guys who can't when your team can't see the whole board. So if you do something, if you don't anticipate the reaction to it, I just don't think that you're like a great strategist. And that's one thing I don't appreciate, right, I don't want that and a politician and somebody who's not a great strategist, because that's what I think, that's what I think you need to be. And he has proven himself time and time again not to be that. So, I mean, he really strikes me as the type of politician who, you know, maybe he works in Florida. I don't want to disrespect the people in Florida, because I like the state of Florida, I like visiting, but he strikes me as somebody who works in Florida. He's a little bit off. And we know, if you ever just google Florida, man, they're a little bit off too. So maybe that just that's just his Lane, right, and he just works in Florida. But let me tell you something, Ron, that's not gonna work in the rest in the rest of the country, my guy, it's just not right. His even his awkwardness when he speaks and talks. It's like, again, maybe it just works in Florida, but that's not like it wouldn't work in Ohio. You know what I'm saying, Like, yeah, I mean, Darvo, we are both pretty entrenched here in Ohio, politive, right, we follow our state. It just wouldn't work here, and it wouldn't work in the Midwest at all. We know he wouldn't work on the coast either. Coast right, that doesn't work, but he wouldn't work here. And you know either, so maybe he doesn't work on the coast at all. That that might actually be hilarious, but because you know, I love a good political train wreck. But you know, it wouldn't work here either, I mean, could you? I mean no, he would not. Why do you think Rod de Santis plays here in the Midwest, specifically here in Ohio. It's not good. Well, so I saw two I saw a pole recently, um that had if it's Trump versus Biden in Ohio, Trump was up ten and if it's Santis versus Biden in Ohio, the Santist was up like two. Yeah, that's that's a close race. That's a very close race. Um, because Biden doesn't work here either. Right. But but but the problem, the problem that the Santist has is that, at least culturally, Biden knows how to speak to white working class voters. A lot of them are in Ohio. Yeah than Desantist does. Correct, Biden's full of crap, but he he connects with those voters better than Desantist does, So that's why he would It would be a much tougher race in Ohio. It would almost be reverting back to Bellweather state if if DeSantis is the nominee. And I would say this, you know, my uh my friend and friend of the show, Nina Turner tweeted this out. Well, ex did whatever the hell. I don't even know what the hell we're calling this stuff now, but u X tweeted whatever, um this point out, and I thought it was a very very smart point Dante. She said, even even people on the left can see that Desantists doubles down on culture wars to hide the fact that he's an establishment Republican. Yep, Yep, I think that's very Yep, he is, uh yeah, I you've got to root awaken incoming. If you think ron De Santis is gonna be the next president in this country, right, if you think Rod, if you think Rond De Santis is gonna win a nomination, you got you gotta root awaken incoming because this is trumm gonna be the tar out of him. Yep. And then and like I said before, the worst part of this hasn't even started for him, right, it's the debates. He's gonna get mascred in the debates, right, that's not gonna that's gonna be ugly. Yeah, because stammers and he's not he doesn't have a state. You're not gonna you are not gonna confuse his oration skills with Barack Obama. You're just not. You're not going to confuse him as a politician, with his poise, his demeanor, You're not going to confuse him with with Bill Clinton or with Ronald Reagan. Like, that's not gonna you know, say what you will about those guys policies. Those guys were like really good politicians. They had a stage presence, they could command a room. Ron DeSantis he feels small and the other thing, yeah, that's right. The other thing, he's gonna be very somebody pointed out before, but we Americans, we don't usually elect short presidents. Ran De Santis is a short guy. So when he stands up against Trump on the debate, states, Trump's gonna have like five or six inches on him, which it's gonna it's gonna be a very weird dynamic. Right. We saw it with somebody who I think is a better politician than Marco Rubio. Right, Trump just towered over him and it was just like, as superficial as this may sound, as Americans, right, we don't like things that project his weakness. So when you got a guy De santist who's up there at like five eight and Trump's like what sixty three six four, Like, it's noticeably different. Man. Well, not only that, but when they get on a debate stage, even if, especially in these early debates, even if Trump doesn't show up to these early debates, the rest of the candidates are going to be jumping on Desantists because they're trying to take him out and replace him as the number two. So he's not and Desantist has a reputation for performing poorly on stage yea in debates. He's not a good debater, so yeah, he's gonna get it. And it's it's almost kind of like, uh, they're hoping that Trump goes to jail and that all clear the pathway for them, but people can vote, Like I use the example earlier Eugene Debs, I don't think if Trump went to jail, I don't think Desensis can be that's his only hope. That or Trump, you know, for you know, we're the untimely croak. But that guy seems to die no, and that that would be the only thing because I'm telling you, if Trump went to jail, Trump's mugshot would be the number one selling T shirt in America. Trump is way too stubborn a person to die before he gets his rematch with Joe Biden. There, he's way too stubborn to die before that chance. Not having him let him know how to follow you, sir. Follow me on Instagram and Twitter, Act Tape Rock Tae b r Ye, Miss O'Malley. You can follow me on Instagram at real Robin O'Malley. You can follow my other links that are in the bio on Instagram and Facebook at Robin o'malaghan. You can follow me at dd Kingpinn Area where that's dt h E k I m G p I N. All Right, we are out of here, see you next time. Peace. This has been a presentation of the FCB podcast Network, where real talk lifts. Visit us online at FCB podcasts dot com.
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