Ep. 373 - RNHA Chair Elisa Slider exposes an attempt by state GOPs to remove Black and Hispanic groups
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Ep. 373 - RNHA Chair Elisa Slider exposes an attempt by state GOPs to remove Black and Hispanic groups

Republican National Hispanic Assembly chair Elisa Slider joins the show to blow the whistle on a systematic attempt by multple state Republican Party chapters to remove Black and Hispanic groups from the state party organizations. Later in the show the team givers their thoughts on outlandish displays at the VMAs, Hunter Biden's gun charge and more.
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Yeah, it's been it's been definitely been a month. But you know, I mean, I can't I can't say it's horrible, but life has been lifing. Life has been lifing. It has been lifing. Yeah, but you know we're out here a week. You know, kids still doing school, they're doing great. You know we're out here. How are you doing? Life has been lifing. I've had that similar kind of up. But I know one thing, like uh like Kendrick Lamar said, we gonna be all right, that's how you doing. Sorry, it's football season, so I guess you know football has been footballing, done changed up the whole vibe. That's right. But I will say this, Dante, I have been to Colorado once in my entire life, and now I'm a Colorado Buffalo's fan. This is crazy. I told you many he got this thing rolling, man, and it we'll you know, I think they're gonna win tomorrow against Colorado State, and then you know they're getting a conver so we're going to Desroy, Colorado State. Yeah, yeah, and I like all the videos that's coming, and then you know they're going up the Oregon after that, which is like, I mean, we'll see, right, we'll see because that's gonna be a real test in in uh in Eugene. But for right now, I mean they'll start four and oh and just from where they were last year, right, everybody they had off the prime z he This is remarkable, you know, the disrespect that like the Colorado State one of the coaches. You know, when when I'm talking to grown ups, I take my hat and my glasses off. That's what my mom, That's what my mother taught me. First of all, why do you keep picking with picking with this team? Second of all, that was disrespectful. That was disrespectful, like, Okay, he wears a hat, what does it matter? Like I'm I saw somebody comment under that video on Twitter or x and they were like, thank you coach Norville because I was so worried, so worried about why this man had on a hat. Thanks, thanks for your moralism here right, thank you. We appreciate it. We used to thank them too, because we're gonna see a hell of a game as a result, because they about to get the breaks beat off of them, boy, and they're going to run it up on them too. Oh you already know Colorado's brun it up, right, So if they're winning a fourth They're not just gonna sit on it. They're winning a fourth quarter, gonna run it up, and that's what they should do. This is great. This is great for college football too, by the way. Great. Yeah, I think so. I think so awesome. I think so awesome. All Right, So we did a very special interview that we're going to get to right now. We have a very special guest on the show today. She is my dear, dear friend. The last time she was on this show, she was running for a chair of the Republican National Hispanic Assembly and she is now the chair of the r n H. Alisa Slider, welcome back. How are you. I'm good, Thank you for having me back. I appreciate you coming back. We have a lot of interesting things to talk about. I'll say it like that. So, there has been a move across the country that is very concerning to me with uh, certain state leaders and state parties across the country, and I know it's concerning to you as well. Tell people what's going on. I'll just let you have the floor. Uh. So we have one of our chapters and I'm not gonna stay I'm not gonna say what state. And this is actually happening with a couple of chapters, but one in particular where, uh, the chapter has always been a part of the charter within the state and they've always been you know, connected on the committees, and we've always had representation, We've always had connections on the GOP in that state. We've always been you know, in their committees and been a part of it. And for some reason, there's this big move to remove organizations like ours, uh, the Black Republican Caucus, log Cabin Republicans, et cetera. They're they're they're moving us to no longer be a part of those organizations or those committees. We're being old we are segregationists, and that basically that they're they're trying to change the way things are run in those states when it comes to that. And so it's not just one state, like I said, it's happening in a few states. And I don't want to name all the states quite yet, just but I think we're gonna have to start calling them out. I will call out one state for sure, that's the Kansas GOP because they have already made some national news on what they are doing. So you can, you know, look that up but it's it's pretty frustrating at this moment. And I'm helping my chairman out there. Uh, they're they're requesting his by laws and his minutes to prove that he's the chair in order to remain on the committee or to be considered to be able to remain on the committee. So yeah, it's getting interesting. It's getting interesting. Yeah, that's very interesting. They want it's that is ridiculous. First of all, how long has the group been around? How long has RNHA been around? When was it incorporated? Back in like nineteen sixty seven? So this sign't a new groups. Oh no, very well established. We even used to be a part of the White House. We had offices there previously, you know, I think it was McCain Fine Gold or something like that that changed some of those laws and ended up not no longer having an office there. But we've always been associated with the Republican Party, with the RNC, with GOP within states, and now we're getting pushed out and so h you mentioned that in these states. Uh, they're not only targeting you, but they're also targeting the black Republican groups. I know we've talked that there's been like some of the youth Republican groups, right, college Republicans, Yeah, the college that they're what is the because i know you guys have challenged them on this, and like you said in the Kansas case, it's it's public. Now. What is their defense when they get challenged for doing something so stupid? Basically, once again, it's they're saying, they don't that we are segregationists, and that's not how they want to do things. They want to include everyone and under one umbrella. And it sounds pretty and it sounds great, but it's not. That's not what's really happening. You know, outreach is necessary, and I'm sorry the Republican Party has filled for many, many years on outreach when it comes to certain communities, and to get rid of organizations like ours, it's just it's a slap in the face to that outreach. And and I'm I'm just I'm not on board with what they're doing. I'm not okay with what they're doing. And this needs to be called out because enough is enough. As you and I witnessed, we saw Pole recently come out, and of course we're seeing all of these you know, naysayers on these polls because they see that the the numbers for Trump are getting better within the black community, within the Hispanic community, and among younger Republicans. And I have a feeling that this is what it is. This is that's what I'm leaning big time towards. I mean, absolutely, I think that's what it is. I'm sorry, let me just be frank, it's I think it's because of support for Trump. As an organization. We were not supporting anybody in the primary. We support all the candidates. We're not supporting one Canada over another. I'm just talking about Hispanics in general, you know, and and for my spells for myself as well. So it seems like so going back to and because what you alluded to is a Twitter tiff that I both got into with. I believe it's WPA. They're a polling group that's associated with Ron de Santis, and you know you've declared who you're supporting. I am still neutral. I'm not supporting anybody, but I call out BS when I see it. And the fact that there's Polsters and there are consultants, and then some of the and then you add that with some of the actions that are taking place in these state chapters, which seems very coordinated. To me, there is a coordinated effort to dismiss black outreach, to dismiss Hispanic outreach, to say they don't have to do this, and the numbers that you're seeing. Don't believe the numbers. I mean, the the interaction that you and I had with this polling group was very interesting to me because they were saying, and one day they said, don't believe the black numbers. The next day they said, don't believe the Hispanic numbers, but believe the white numbers, because the white numbers show that Trump isn't as strong as the typical Republican would normally be with white voters and their pole, I want to make that clear in their pole. So it's very interesting to me that it's like, don't believe the non white numbers, but the white numbers are are absolutely one thousand percent correct. That told me there's that something's something's happening here. There is a coordinated effort to diminish and to negate black and Hispanic outreach. And I think that's what you're seeing, right, That's exactly what I'm saying. That's exactly for the first time. And let me tell you, I've been I've been doing this for a while. Like, I've been a part of the RNHA for at least six years, and at never, not one point, have I ever not seen the RNC have Hispanic outreach director. And they still I mean unless they magically have one and didn't contact me for some strange reason, but they still don't have one. And I've never seen that. Like, I'm not understanding that other than the fact that once again I think it's a coordinated effort. It's starting to make sense between these pole things we're seeing on social media. Idea. You know, Oh, I think we heard that the numbers from the last election weren't they weren't true, that there wasn't a bigger turnout for the black voter for the Hispanic vote. Just a mirage. It was a mirage. What is the utter complete bs, I'm sorry it is. I was on the ground. I was a part of Trump's team. We you know, we did uh, we did a bus tour. We did a couple of bus tours, and and and when we would stop in these communities. The numbers that were showing up within the black community and the Hispanic community, I've never seen it before. I have never seen that kind of turnout before and Trump did it. He did that and that, and so when they were making it sound like, oh that that that didn't really happen, we saw it with our own eyes, Like we're not stupid. We were there, We saw it, you know. So it's just it's all just to discredit it. It's all to try to stop it. That's all that's happening. They're just trying to stop the efforts on the outreach. And so, you know, I thought it was real. We're talking with a Lisa Slider, who was chair of the RNHA. It was very interesting one week where in the same week you had people largely from the Santisis team, dismissing the black and Hispanic numbers, and at the same time, like in the same week, I saw an article from I believe it was from political quoting Democrats who were sounding the alarm about these numbers. So that tells me they believe it's true. But the Republicans are saying, no, it's not true at all. So clearly somebody's lying here. The Democrats have no incentive to lie because they're saying that, hey, we're in trouble here, we need to address this because we're starting we're starting to believe too many of our voters, and it also tells you they're probably seeing it in their numbers also, so they have no one sensive to lie. So clearly to me, it's it's people on the Republican side who are lying, and it's it's clear that this is the this is politically motivated. There's no other way to explain it, you know what I mean, other than just sheer racism, which we know there's there's some of that too, but this is overall, this is the fact that it's so coordinated and so you know what I mean, like they are intentionally when you start checking Hispanic Republican groups and Black Republican groups out of committees in state parties, that's coordinated, right, I agree? I agree. I mean, let's be real too. I mean, we we're seeing Democrat operatives coming into within our side and they're trying to influence our own our own parties, influencers, our conservative influencers, and the Democrats wouldn't be trying so hard to do that if there wasn't an actual huge movement happening within those communities for conservative messages. You know, Biden's failed US we all know it. Everybody feels it. We're all suffering. I mean, you can't go to the grocery store without spending two to three times more than we did a year ago. Uh So everybody's done, like they're just done. People are done with that and they know it. Democrats know it, while Republicans are pretending that it's not needed. And I don't understand that other than it's an effort against Trump. That's the only thing that makes sense to me personally, that's the only thing I can see. So there there's going to be people who are going to listen to this and they're gonna get pissed when they hear this, and what they can do. So what can people do to address this and to because a lot of it too is happening under the cover of darkness, right like they're trying to to keep it as quiet as possible, except in the case of Kansas, which was just stupid and it broke broke the news and ended up being public and exploded this and made it clear what was going on, at least in Kansas. But I don't think people know that it's It's happening in different states across the country as well, so what can people what can people do if they want to get involved and they want to tell to tell the Republican Party stop it with this bleep? Well, I think one of the things that need to happen. I think organizations that you know like mine need to get more support, and we need to be able to find more support and give more support to organizations like ours who do outreach because outreach is important. I mean, where would we be without outreach? Those numbers you know, would be much smaller, I think if if we weren't making a dent in those communities. So I think that's one of the things that we need to start doing. I think the Republican Party has always had so much support. I think that now knowing and seeing what we're seeing, obviously, I think they either need to maybe make some noise with the Republican Party start making demands. You know, a lot of these you know, big dollar donors. I think they think they're putting money in there for hispanic outreach, black outreach, all all the different kinds of outreach, and it's not going to that. So I think they need to understand that that that's not happening, and they need to probably make some noise themselves, because I know there are some really good people out there who really want, you know, that kind of outreach to take place, and it's it's just not happening. So I think we need to start hitting the Republican Party on that, start calling them out for it, and then start supporting other organizations, you know, who do outreach because you know, organizations like mine who've been around since the sixties, we need all the help we can get so we can get that message out in the communities, you know, even better. And we're everywhere. I mean, we've got state chapters everywhere, We've got boots on the ground everywhere, and we're the ones who are ready to go door to door and start doing this, you know. And I think that's what's needed. I know the Republican Party can't do that because they don't have that kind of manpower, but organizations like ours do, and I think that's something that people need to look at, you know, on supporting them, and then, like I said, calling out the Republican Party every chance they get. Yeah, I mean this that's really you know, sunlight is the best disinfectant, right, Like, they they have to be called out on this. And I know that there are some people who are like, well, you know that's going to give someone so ammunition and all of that, but it's like, look, at the end of the day, if you are a Republican and you care about these issues, you better speak out because it's it's it's some it's some bs going on right now, and they're doing it in the cover of night. They're trying to make sure that people aren't aware of it. But you know, you mentioned earlier that as far as you know of, there isn't there hasn't been a Hispanic outreach person hired at the RNC. As far as I know of, there hasn't been a black outreach person hired at the RNC as of as of recently, the last the last time that I was told, because you know you and I both we both have sources, right, we were told that there wasn't a black outreach or Hispanic outreach person and hired in the RNC. And let me just expose this. This is this is part of what I call the scam. This is what the scam is when they want to act like they're doing outreach but they don't actually do outreach. Is they'll shun groups like Elisa's right, who have the people, the manpower, the history, and so on and so forth. They won't hire their own people. They'll wait until like January of the election of the election year to hire a black outreach person or a Hispanic outreach person. So now that person, even if that person is sincere, and that's not always a guarantee, but even if that person is sincerely trying to do the job, guess what happens they get the job. I don't know. In January or February, we're in the middle of primary season, have to take time to get ramped up to do their job. So by the time that they're actually deploying whatever resources they're being given, which most of the time they're not given any real resources, but whatever resources they're being given, they're not deploying it until like two months before the election. Now, let me ask you something, at least you are a minority, just like I am. Does that work No? Absolutely not no. In fact, it's a huge turn off. So that's one of the biggest complaints that I've heard, even like from the Asian community. They get frustrated. I remember I had gone to a few events over there you know, just since you know, when I got involved with their NHA, my whole thing was I want to get to know all the different community leaders. I wanted to, you know, start working with them. So I started attending events. And one of the biggest complaints they had is that just like some of these politicians the Republican Party, they won't show up until the very last second. So it's not sincere. They don't even consider it sincere. They don't think it's real. They think it's just you know, for show, and and I can't argue that. I cannot argue that, and it's true, you know, so it makes us look bad, makes our party look bad. You know. We always talk about how we're for everyone. Well we need to start acting like it. We need to start showing up and not just when it's needed last second. You know, Democrats kill us at that. They kill us at that. They are there twenty four seven election year or not. They're providing sources to every group you can imagine. I mean, they are coordinated like no other, and our side is fallen apart, seems like always. I mean, it just doesn't make sense. In the level of frustration I have with it, is is bad. It's it's ridiculous. I can't say what I would like to say on air, but I'm over it. I'm over it. Something needs to be done. Enough is enough. And the only person I saw who was truly out there and getting people and offices opened up in different communities was Trump. I mean, let's be real. He was the one who was like, we're not going to open an office over in the nice area town. He's like, we're gonna, We're gonna open offices in every area where all the different communities no need somebody or have representation. And he did that, and there aren't he you know, obviously they've followed suit by taking over some of those offices, but from what I'm hearing, a lot of them are already closed. So once again closed to Yeah, for show. It was for show. I'm sure they'll open up sometime next year at the very last minute where they act like they care. But you know, it's all it's it's bullcrap and we're all we all know it, you know, and so something else, something's got to give. I hope that you know, people who are listening to this show from whatever party, whatever race, I hope that you all stand with with my friend. I know that you are taking a risk and exposing this, and you're doing the right thing, because this is not okay and anybody, I don't care you know what party you belong to or race you belong to, nobody should be okay with the intentional ignoring and dismissing of large groups of the country like this. This is not good for the country, you know what I mean. Both parties should be competing for the black vote, should be competing for the manning though they should. There should be competition in our communities and let the people decide what direction they want to go, don't try to control it arbitrarily for political purposes. So I think we all should applaud you for speaking out on this, especially in the position that you're in. I think this is very important and people need to know this. So let everybody know how they can get in contact with you, they want to follow you on social media, how they can get more information about the RNHA. If there's somebody who's listening and wants to get involved with the RNHA or donate to the RNHA, how do they do that. So we have our website which is www dot RNHA dot org. There's a contact form on there as well, so if you'd like to get a hold of me, you can definitely just hit that link and those messages do come directly to me. And then I'm obviously on social media as La Cubana Misfit and my name's Elisa Sliders, so you'll find me either way on there with one of those names. Thank you so much. I'm proud of you, my dear friend. I'm stop by, so thank you so much. I appreciate it, all right, thank you. I hope all ends well with this. And uh, we make we make a difference. Well, we're gonna make some noise. That's for damn show. So we're gonna see is it's gonna roll right? All right, stay tuned. We have more to come here on the Outlaws. These days, it seems like everybody's talking, but no one is actually listening to the things they're saying. Critical thinking isn't dead, but it's definitely low on oxygen. Join me, Kira Davis on Jeff. Listen to yourself every week as we reason through issues big and small, critique our own ideas, and learn to draw our talking points all the way out to their logical conclusions. Subscribe to Just Listen to Yourself with Kia Davis and FCB Radio podcast on Apple, on Spotify, iHeart, or wherever you get your podcasts. Real talk, real conversations. We got the heat. Yeah, this is the Utlass Radio Show. Welcome back, Welcome back. You're listening to the Outlaws and now was the time to show that we like to call tea Time with Row, turn it up, confetition, the latest celebrity news and gossips. It's Tea Time with Row on the Outlaws Radio Show. All right, y'all, So, actually I got a few cups of tea for y'all for Row. But we're gonna start off with the VMA. I mean, I don't know if y'all watched it, but it was insane, Like there was a lot of a lot of funny moments. But let's talk about this one. So Sukianna and I'm not even sure who this chick is, but I know she'd be trending all over social media. This girl. If y'all grew up in the nineties, you'll know what I'm talking about when I say it is. This girl was doing the cry baby on the red carpet like Sis what are you doing? What are you doing? She was literally laying down on her stomach For those of who don't know what that is, the cry baby laying down on her stomach, one leg propped up and bouncing her butt up and down on the red carpet at the VMA's. And it's like, girls, you can't just be normal and like pose or like I mean, even if you wanted to let work a little whatever, that's fine. Whatever. I mean, I guess that's still doing a bit much. But that's not as much as doing the damn cry baby, like I just it's it's I don't even know. But at the same point, it's like it kind of goes with it with what the way that things are in the day and age, I mean, the way that a lot of these females. I know I'm going to get called to pick me for this, but with the way that a lot of these females dress and act nowadays. I mean, I can't say that I'm too surprised, but to each their own. If if that's if that's what it is, you know that that attracts people and keeps getting what what's who? Who said? What song? It gets the people going who said that is that in jay Z song? Or is that Kanye West? Yeah? Yeah, that was both of them. That was jay Z and Kennett. Okay, all right, I knew, I knew, all right, So they some about it. Gets it gets the people going like like, I don't know, Like if that's that's what y'all, that's y'all cup of tea. I mean, so be it pinkies out. First of all, I hate the whole pick me thing because usually the people who are talking about pick me are the ones that can never get picked. But I digress. Uh, Dante, why don't you talk a little bit about the woman that you told me before the show started that she would love to make your fiance, who certainly not Sukiana. No I thought she I saw her on a red carpet. I just I look at a lot of these you know what, I'm starting to look at how I'm starting to view a lot of these rappers and entertainers. These guys are characters. We I have no idea if she's really liked this in real life, but this is the character that she's chosen to play. In order. There was a video like she shared a video of her being like that before she became famous. But no, I'm saying, like she this is what, this is what she now has to do. So like I you know, she really liked it. We'll never know, but this is the character that she's chosen to play to be, you know, for Sukiana whatever that you know, whoever she is. So I you know, it's obviously disappointing, but what's more disappointing is like she got fans. And so, like I said last week, I'll continue to say, she don't make music for me. I don't listen to it, and somebody is listening to it. That's why she was at the VMA's and so you know, if you like that kind of music, power to you. But that's not you know, that's that's not for me. I don't think it's her music. I don't think it's her music that they like. I mean, I don't know where her music is or what she does. But I can guarantee you almost almost damn they're guarantee you. It's it's not the music. Listen is the behavior because some people like that ratchet baby and somebody somebody listening to her. You're probably right, you probably right, But it's more to behavior than anything. I mean in the behavior in the music kind of goal one and the same truly, well, and that's you know, that's like what I said last week, Like it's yeah, there's people like it, but there's plenty of people that like whack stuff all the time, right, And my biggest issue is just the lack of balance. I mean, these are and it's interesting when you hear people who are defending this stuff and then you ask them, well, would you want your daughter to behave that way? They get quiet as a church mouths, right, because really, you get to live out all the year, you get to live out all your your ratchet dreams vicariously through people like this, But you don't want your daughter to behave like that? Mm? I don't know, see see Darvo. The thing with that is is actually I'm sure that you you're not. You don't really read a lot of the comments in these type of topics because obviously that's more my alley I read. Sometimes I got into an art I got into an argument with somebody with a couple of people on Sukiana, specifically on instagraming there Oh dang, but no, see, I mean I don't I don't fight with nobody. I ain't fight with nobody, but no. I mean what I mean with this is there are actually women that will be in a lot of these comics, not even just about Sukiana, I mean just then a lot of these types of topics. The way that certain particular women act or dress, and they'll say, there ain't nothing wrong with the way she looks, or there ain't nothing wrong with what she's doing. And they'll even say that upon videos that of what children are doing in videos that their parents allow them to do, and a lot of women they'll say that, they'll say, there ain't nothing wrong. She ain't doing nothing wrong. She ain't like the little girls will be singing certain lyrics to certain songs that they shouldn't be singing, or they'll be dancing certain particular their way, or dress a certain particular way, and that's what they'll say. That be like, well, how you're saying if you wouldn't want your daughter to do that? Like and that's the thing is like, that's me, Like that's I wouldn't because I will tear my daughter up. I wish to listen. Listen, No, go put some sweatpants on, you got a dress on, Throw some shorts on up underneath that close your legs, put your leg down, you have a dress on, like I beyond my daughter. But there are women that will be like there ain't nothing wrong with what's she doing or what's she wearing. So yeah, I had this one. Uh and she was an educated quote unquote educated woman, which really disturbed me. Was like, you know this is liberating. You just don't like it that a woman is owning her sixth reality like I'm some knuckle dragon neander thought. It's like, on the won't my women in the in the kitchen bare foot and pregnant and cooking like like I'm that type of dude? Is something? It's like you think this is liberating food? Right, Like we're not saying to hide your women. We're not saying to hide yourself. Yes, like love yourself, live life, like have fun, laugh laughter. Is it that that is what keeps you alive? Okay? Like be happy, have fun? But like there is just a line. But then again, I mean, I guess there's the whole Adam and Eve thing. You know, you did kind of start off nude, so that doesn't mean you got to walk around with your ass out around the table on the floor now real quick before before we transition to the next topic, I gotta ask you do you find this to be liberating? Is this sexual liberation? I don't. For me, it wouldn't be. But I mean that's the thing, like these people all you know, they don't care about us, right, these these would not be the type of woman that they would that I would attract, so like for them or you so like we know that this ain't like for us. We wouldn't want, you know what, daughters or mothers to be acting like what would you But what would your mother's reaction be? Like if you brought hey, mom, this is this is my girlfriend and it was like sukie she I mean she would be looking for like whereas Ashton culture because I'm being pumped, probably what she would think if you ever do that, please record it, because she like she would know you know, my son ain't going you know, my son ain't going first. But like what we would if they believe that it's liberating for them, well then we you know what I'm saying, Like people people believe a bunch of a bunch of nonsense. And you know what did jay Z said? Don't argue with don't argue with no fool man, let have it. If they think that this is liberating, I just, you know what, what can I say? Right like this for you? It is congratulations on that if you if you feel like this freezing you, you go for it. I just, you know what, like that line in The Godfather, we keep it out of schools and away from children. Keep it out of schools and away from children, because you know, people don't people it's degenerously to really be honest with you. And that's why I hope, I think, but I really hope that they're just playing a character, because I hope that you're just doing this for cloud, because then then I could understand it a little bit process and versus like this is just who you are. Next, okay, so the next one we are going to talk about this. So Sissor's manager actually pulled her from the VMAs UH for performing because she was not nominated for the Artists of the Year. She actually, from my understanding, and she had no nominations, but she was still supposed to perform. Now, what her her manager said is it's just really it didn't make any sense to me. It's disrespectful. Now, as I was reading through a lot of the comments, you know with fans and you know those people just reading. A lot of people were like, but she that's like free, you know, exposure, and and they're like, you just basically effed her and like but then at the same point, like she pretty known. I don't really think that she took it l So I don't know, I really don't know, but I think that I personally do think that she should have been nominated because Sissi has some pretty good songs. She had a she's a vibe. I love Sissa, Like this is like the exact opposite of the conversation we just said, I love Scissors music. I think she's she's incredible. I understand what her manager was saying, but it's like, look, I agree with you, Like she's already no, like she's not doing stuff for the pub anymore, you know what I mean, she doesn't have to. I I understand, I understand the thought process, and I mean, when you're a star that big, she could have told her manager, no, I'm still gonna do it right, Like she didn't have to listen, she just chose to. So I don't see anything wrong with that. Uh, Dante, are you a uh the listener to Scissa. Uh, you know the answer to that is no, I don't know her music, so I can't tell you is she a rapper's now you first of all her songs trending all over TikTok, which TikTok is trending all over every other platform. You know her is a sixty eight year old I'm not on TikTok. That is a that is a Chinese government spy tool, and unlike all the other ones that I have too many of those already in my life, I'm not onto. So no, I don't I can't say that I'm not hip enough to scissor. But she's famous enough, Like I agree with what y'all saying. She she's famous enough. You know, she don't really need the VMA's at this point. Yeah, I mean, I Dante, you would like her, You would like her music because she looks like I think I know what looked like. I like her. He's terrible, He's terrible. We were moving on Robin next. Okay, all right, but so we're gonna actually switch this up a little bit. So we already did like the Ranch and then we just did the classy. Now we're gonna do the heartfelt Okay, you know balance, right, So we're actually going to talk about Ba Wow and a lot of people may not know who he is. I mean, if you don't, though, you've been living under a rock your entire life. But Bow was also known as Little Ba Wow back in the nineties. Now he grew up, you know, a star kid, and that's literally what his whole entire life has been, you know, acting and performing. So he's been in the spotlight his entire life. I mean he's got to be. I think he's around our age, Darbio. He's like probably between thirty four and thirty seven, maybe somewhere in there. So Ba Wow actually reflects on missing out on milestones due to being a child star, and in quote unquote, Ba Wow said, just woke up thinking to myself, like, man, I've never been to prim nor college. I want to pledge so bad. I wish I was a part of a fraternity. Y'all think I'm lucky because of my lifestyle, but I really want what y'all have. And it's like a lot of people really don't know. Like that's what a lot of celebrities feel like. They'll they'll like people will become big or they'll just grow up like that, you know, in that lifestyle, and they'll be like, I wish that I was not a celebrity. I have no privacy. I don't get to live the life that you get to live. You be like, yeah, you may not have the money that I have, and I get it, you want that money. But the lifestyle, it's probably like like just really stressful and kind of just a pattern, you know, where you have to stick to this certain particular way of life. You have to watch what you say, watch what you do, and do certain things and can't do do certain things like I would imagine you have to do online school and things of the sort like that. And I've always thought about that too, because you know a person that you know is interested in getting in to the industry. I often think about that, you know a person who has children, like, Okay, if I do this, like I'll be traveling a lot, which means my kids will be probably have to be homeschooled and we'll be moving around a lot, or they may not see me often, so like, yeah, I definitely I don't understand where he's coming from. So I do too, as someone who's been in this industry for a long time. You know, I'm not as rich as him or as famous as him, but I can relate to making sacrifices, especially not only, you know, because I'm in this space and in this business, but also as being a you know, being an entrepreneur. I think about that myself sometimes, of the amount of sacrifices that I've made, the amount of uh, you know, birthday parties I've missed, the amount of phone calls I haven't been able to return, the amount of you know, just all sorts of things. Man. I was, I really, I really felt it. I don't actually about a month or two ago, I was probably was like two weeks back to back that I had had a little bit of time to spend with two of my god children and just seeing and Robin. You know, there's like kids, how fast kids grow? Right, And it's like wow. And I saw my oldest godson man, and I was just like damn, you know, he saw me. I walk up. He didn't know I was gonna be there. We were at the uh we were at an event, and I walk up and he sees me, and he runs to me and grabs me or whatever, and and I'm just looking at like how how much this kid has grown and all that, and then you just start thinking about like just all this stuff that you've missed, like how I haven't how long it's been since I've seen him and all that kind of stuff. Man, And it does like it there is a sacrifice that you make when you're in this space, you know what I mean, And especially like when you're when you're an entrepreneur, man, you your your your business is your baby, you know, to a large extent, and so it keeps me, it keeps me away a lot of times. It takes a lot of time from me. And so I can absolutely relate to that. Like I have felt that myself. And like I said, I you know, when I spend time with my with my two god children, it was like wow, you know what I mean. You think sometimes you think about the stuff that you've that you've missed, and that's you know, sometimes part of the sacrifices that you make in order to build something that that can last longer than you, you know, and that's the and that's the trade off. So really, you know, in this life, in this space, in this business, whether you're in the media or entertainment like us or not, or whether you're an entrepreneur of any of any sort. It's really just trying to find ways to balance as much as you can. You'll never have a balance, you know what I mean, Because it's just if it's almost like something me and Dante were talking about where Dante was like, you know this particular topic, if it was easy to do this, then everybody would do it, right, And so it's the same thing here, like if this thing was easy, everybody would do it. So there are sacrifices that are made, and you know it sucks sometimes, but those are the sacrifices you make when you're trying to build something. So I do understand where he's coming from, Dante. Okay, so two things here, and you know, I agree in at a high level with this point simply because I wouldn't want to I would never want to be famous. That's not something that I want want for my life. As I've gotten older, I've realized like, yeah, that that that is not for me. I just personally wouldn't and for a myriad of reasons. Right, But you you really are at the at the mercy of the public, right because the public perception turns on you and the public is no longer interested in you. Well, you know, that could be your livelihood, right, if you're an athlete or a movie star or whatever the case may be. Right. So I would never want to be at the mercy of the public, and I think there's an element of that that comes with being famous. So I just personally would never want that for my life for that reason and all the other reasons that you guys have said. But like, on a different note, Wow, no, like and that's just and that's like trust me by Shad Moss, My guy, you are more than welcome on this show anytime. But let's be real. You can definitely go grocery shopping. Nobody's gonna bother you. Bro, you are not Drake. You are not Lebron James. Okay, and I'm obviously being I'm joking here, but but I'm also being serious though, Like, Bro, nobody you're talking about famous, Like what you're just saying about not wanting to be there, You're you're talking about like famous, famous you're talking about Yeah, but like, Bro, I went to college and went to pledge. Yes, you can do that. There are more famous guys who have pledged and live a normal life than by Wow you can, like you can pledge in a fraternity. My guy, Come on, man, I remember that one. Yes, he absolutely can't. Yes, by Wow is not eat Come on man, Okay, So remember when he do you all remember that video when the people when people were protesting and by Wow was walking down and he was in the middle of it, and he was like, oh, they gonna they gonna go crazy, but they find out who I am. And people were walking past looking at him and nobody said anything. I did not see them. Remember that guy, that guy you are not that guy, Kyle. But see at the same true like I mean yes and no, yes and no, but like see, I mean I get it because a lot of the times if I say something to somebody about like do you know who bow Wow is? Do you know who Romeo Miller is? Do you know who Sammy is? And the thing is it's like those are like three of the main top guys that are from the nineties that you know girls in my age group who they would listen to. But because they look different now and a lot of a lot of them that don't go by the same name as what they were when they were younger, younger stars, so a lot of people they don't they don't recognize them, and they're not really doing the music that they used to do. So yeah, I get what you're saying, Like it's far as like nobody's checking for you. But if they do, if people do know who they are, find if they do find out, like you know, we actually talked about it before, you know, when the whole takeoff thing happened, you know, when he had got you know, shot or whatever, you know, going back to his old neighborhood type of thing, you know. And the thing is this, like you can go do things like that. He can go, you know, to college and do these different things. But chances are the chances are bigger than my regular self going to college and you know and running into somebody that's that's going to be a snake. I mean, yes, there's a lot of people that are snakes and that will use you and do things. But if he goes to college and stuff, people can be fake to him, and to some extent, I think it's obviously it's larger for him. There are more opportunities for that to happen. But anybody that has any bit of a name, regardless of whether you've got a big name or look like so you not you not where he's at. But and I'm just being I'm just being honest, there are there are way more famous people who have pledged. I thought about when j R. Smith went back to college, when you said like if j R. Smith and nbah, if j R. Smith can go back to college, yeah and be fine and be on the golf team he's talked about. It was just like, I mean, yeah, it was. There are there are different the robin. There are different levels of this. I think that's right away, Like because I'm like, like, do y'all think that if went to went to Beechwood Maul, they would be a crowd of people around here. Nobody would care. Nobody would care. I promise you he not that he's not okay, so that yes, but he can't go back in time, like he said, he never went in Yeah, he can't go back in time if his okay, when was famous when he was like twelve and thirteen, I have been fifteen. Since he's been fifteen, sixteen, seventeen, nobody's cared. Did anybody cared about Nobody care? Twenties he did have a Nobody cared about blah blah. Anybody checked in two thousand and ten. Huh, nobody was checking for him in two thousand and ten, because when I was okay, I was in high school. It's coming up on my team. Well it is, it is. I graduated high school in two thousand and thirteen, right, this is my teen year, my teen year, and rain is coming up. Okay, nobody. When I was in high school, nobody. And this is two thousand and nine, ten, eleven, twelve and thirteen, right, those those years, right, no one. And I promise you, no one cared about little blah blah. No one. So we're talking about so we're talking about the better part of fifth over ten years now, right, if you included four years I was in high school and the ten years I've been out, we're talking about close to fifteen years. Ain't nobody cared about him at all? I mean, but his music still be popping like from back. Let me let me look, hold on, hold on, I want to look up his discography because I want to see when his last hit was. I mean, so I was just mistake. But while I'm looking, I do understand it. There's like, of course there's part of Dante being facetious a little bit, but also being serious too. I think they draw more of a crowd in Cleveland or wherever. Right, Bold spent a lot of time. We're in Atlanta because he was a Germanity free coming up. Right, do you think who I've been to Atlanta? Darvo? You've been Atlanta, Robert, I don't know if you've been at but we all you know, we've been places. Right, If bye Wold was walking in Lennox Mall, who's stopping him? There were he's some there would be some. I mean there's it'll be slim, yeah, but he and look here's here's the thing. And and I just gotta be I gotta be honest, like you know, he's us more famous than I am, right, like I'm I'm I'm with Kevin Hard called a snap finger famous where it's like, hey, isn't he that guy that does that thing on you know what I'm saying, Like I'm snap finger famous. He's like he's famous famous. So there are different levels to this, you know what I'm saying. But he's not like he ain't an a lister. He's not like a like you said, like a Lebron or a drinker. He's not even a B or C lister at this point. The guy ain't done nothing in ten fifteen years. So the last big hit that he well, it wasn't the last big hit, but the biggest hit that I remember, and I just looked it up, was a record he did with Sierra and that was in two thousand and five. So I was he hold you down or something like that. How old. Well he's about I think he's around. He don't let me look. Oh, we didn't get I mean we're talking. I never thought, oh, he's my age, so he was eighteen, yeah, and he yeah, it's so, I mean we're talking about and even then, I mean, come on, man, we never thought was one of the you know, one of the most famous rappers. Like, come on, I don't know. See I was in the nineties. So I mean, like I said, I mean, I'm, like I said, I'm snap finger famous. So I ain't trying to hate on somebody definitely lacked the feel with me in terms of popularity, and that's like I said, that's perfectly fun because I wouldn't even want to be that. Ever, I'm just saying I understand the premise. For sure. I could tell you this. If we had him on our shows as a guest, people are gonna know who he is, Like, they're gonna be like, yo, that ye people, people know who he is for sure. But we've we've we've had far bigger guests than about and again that's nope, you more than welcome to come on the show. We would love to have you on the show. Wouldn't even be in our ten most famous guests. If we're thinking the same thing I thing, I was thinking the same thing. I ain't even gonna lie to me like, yeah, that's not that's not that's not hate. But yeah, we've not hate at all because I like Like Mike. I remember when Like Mike came out that I like that movie. Let's be real, though, person who's the most famous person in that movie is more as Chestnut. All right. On that note, say tuned, you're gonna more from Dante when we come fast here on me how Lows Podcast. Welcome back and listen to the Yellows. Make sure that you subscribe to the show on Apple, podcast, Spotify, iHeart, or wherever you get your podcasts. And if you listen to the show on Apple make sure you leave us a five star review and a comment. It's very important for the algorithm and for those of you've already done, so thank you, oh so very much. So now that Dante continued to be disrespectful during the break, oh so, now that he's gotten that out of his system, I think it is time for the second that we like to call it Dante's hot takes. Tell him the truth. Whether you like it or not, it's Dante's hot takes on the Laws radio show. Well, it was almost out of my system because really quick, I forgot to our audience and to Robin. I want to issue an apology because I personally forgot that rob that bow wow in Romeo mean something different to Robbin than they mean to the rest of the world. So first of all, yes, they are still famous for her. But anyway, okay, so I just had to apologize to my calls because I was reminded of at it dawned on me, you know, like, oh yeah, this is different for Robbin. As coach prom will say, Darbio's personal personal is personal. So anyway back to something serious here, uh Hunter Biden Republicans Publican to me number one was indicted on a gun charge three different counts, and his father, the president. According to several news outlets, the White House is saying that they that President Biden will not pardon his son should he be convicted on these gun charges. So I just, first of all, this is complete theater, because who believes that President Biden won't pardon his son? Right? I think you would have to be like, I have a bridge that I would love to sell you. It's in Brooklyn, it's beautiful. I would love to I would love to discuss terms with you if you actually believe this, right, So that's first and foremost. He is going to Now I wish he wouldn't. I wish he wouldn't because I would love for Hunter to say, well, you wouldn't pardon me, You're not gonna pardon me, Okay, I'm gonna tell everything. I would love for that to happen. Just rip the band aid off of his family, ripped the band aid off of everything, and let's let's just get this, let's get this gone. But none of that is likely. Things would have to go very poorly for that to happen. And who knows if what President Biden thinks about that, because you know I don't know how well he is at this point. I think, you know, we're just running out the clock at this point with him. So anyway, the larger point here is that this is once again theater because we are leading. This is going to lead into what Darby has been telling me for the longest, a probable impeachment, right, and we've seen earlier this week Kevin McCarthy is being pushed by certain members of the Republican Party to push for impeachment. So that would make the last two presidents. That would mean the last two presidents would have been impeached, and it would then be likely that the next president would also be either currently impeached, whether it's President invited if he wins reelection, or President Trump who was twice impeached and also under four indictments. So again, just another bad look in another stain on the country because we don't this is not what we need right now. Right we just had a natural disaster in Hawaii, one of which FEMA, the FEMA director comes out and actually saying something, decides to say seven hundred dollars to everybody who's been impacted. Now, mind you, Hawaii is the state the most costly state in the Union to live in, So seven hundred dollars doesn't go far in Hawaii, right, it's the most expensive state to live in in the Union. So we've got seven hundred dollars for those victims. We've got billions for the Ukraine. And we've got the leader of one party who's been impeached twice and indicted four times, and we've got the sun of the current president under indictment, and there's a lot of rumors about corruption swirling around that family. The country's a mess. It's an absolute mess, and it's kind of embarrassing. But in reality, even more than the embarrassment, it's concerning. And I want to say I'm just over it, but it's our country, So how can you really be over So I don't know, Darbio man talk talk to me off the last, but I'm in. I'm not. I'm not feeling good vibes here about where we are as a nation or where the outlook is. Well. I think there's one thing you can do. You can try to embrace the suck and just enjoy the show, which is kind of what I'm doing at this point, even though you know, not even gonna go there about Biden, there's so many things to say, no, go there, We've got time, Like, oh god. I will say this though, I think the best thing that could ever happen to Hunter would be for Biden to lose because if he loses, you know, and that Lane Duck session when he has like what is it, So it's like what like two months I think, yeah, before from the election to the inauguration. Yeah, there's no way he doesn't pardon Hunter. Right, there's no way he doesn't pardon Hunter is going to get pardoned, Like, regardless of what happens, he's going to be pardoned. He Well, the question is whether it's going to be in a year or in four years, right, because I believe that too. Like if Joe Biden gets re elected, he's not going to pardon uh Hunter until after the next mid term, but he's going to pardon Hunter, Like, there's no way, especially because Hunter was the bag man for the family. It's almost when allegedly yes, thank you. When you look at the history of this, it's easy to actually kind of feel a little sorry for Hunter because Hunter was basically the bag man for the family, you know what I mean, Like he I think it was a text or something that leaked where he was like, you know, Dad has me get all this money, or you know, the pressure is on me for the family, for dad and all that other kind of stuff. And it's like, man like he it was you love this because you you love mob movies and you know mob references. It's like Frado running the family. Ah, well that's tough, man, that's tough. I'm smart, not dumb like they say I didn't handle things. Oh that's man. Hold you, hold you. I gotta ask you this because like I'm sure you thought about this too at some point. Okay, So I used the Frado comparison, which I think is very appropriate. The whole laptop from Hill thing, the fact that he had all of this incriminating evidence against himself. We wouldn't know any of this stuff had he not put this stuff on the laptop and had he not left the damn laptop at the damn computer. Is that not Does that not sound like a stereotypical crackhead thing to do? Yes, yeah, definitely. And that's what that's what I said. You know, he would be Fredo if Frado was you know, on crack love. Uh he you know, that. I don't know, man, that's a craze. That's that's a really good anount. I hadn't thought about that. I hadn't thought about that. But yeah, to see them, to see the sympathy I had sympathy for for a hunter because he basically became publican to me, number one of us of a political party. And you know, you never want to be that, right, I would. The last place you want to be is like in the crosshairs of of the of you know, all all Democrats, you know, at the at the at the federal level, or of all Republicans, because it's they're all coming for you, and they're all trying to score points by dunking on you. Yeah, yeah, and and man, and it's it's un for that part is unfortunate, I think. But I think you gotta blame his daddy because at the end of the day, you can't stand up there and you know, talking no one's above the law and all this other and act very self righteous while you're as crooked as sin, you know what I mean? Like, yeah, And that's the that's the thing, man, Like, I don't know if the heat would be as heavy on them if they weren't so pompous about their accusations against Trump. It's like if you and this is not a statement that the statement I'm about to make is not a statement about guilt or innocence or on either party. I'm just saying, theoretically, if you believe that if Trump is your biggest rival, right is your chief rival, and you believe he's dirty, but you know you're dirty too, wouldn't you check the hell up? Yes, I know I would. I would leave them man alone, especially because if there's anything in your closet, Trump will find it without a doubt. Trump will find it, Yeah, without a doubt. So it's like the the arrogance, you know, the arrogance knows no bounds where you can say that guy's a criminal while you were pimping your your children using act and pimping them using your access to make money with foreign governments. The the amazing thing to me, and I have I have mixed I don't have mixed feelings about hundred being indicted. I think he should have been indicted on the charges as they're written today. I do have mixed feelings on the existence of that charge in the first place, right, But I'm I don't have mixed feelings about him being indebted. But here's the nick parton and i'll let your close here. The ironic part is that you can't be somebody like Joe Biden who is very pro gun control, anti gun all that kind of stuff, and your son is breaking the gun laws like you can't, and y'all using legal maneuvering to get him out of it. The only reason he got and dieted is because the deal, the sweetheart deal that the media said was in a sweetheart deal, was actually such a sweetheart deal that the judge threw it away. That's the only reason why he ended up getting in dieted on this. So it's like, like, you can't be a gun control advocate while you're aiding and abetting your son breaking the gun laws, regardless of whether I am fully comfortable with the existence of that particular gun charge or not. Anyway, last word that So that's where I was going to go too, Like I you know, it's it's very difficult for me, whether by the letter of law is correct or not, to agree with anybody being charged, you know, with anybody being charged on a gun charge, right because you know, if you listen to this show more than for more than fifteen minutes. You know, you know where my stance is on firearms. So in that case, I am also sympathetic, but I didn't look at it from the hypocrisy standpoint of you know, this is, you know, every fifteen minutes, his father is coming out talking about, you know, we need stronger legislation with guns, guns, guns, guns, guns, guns, guns, right, And you know that's a that's a party platform, right that that that is one of the things that that party has been very strict about. Right, they want more gun legislation. And so this is what you get with more gun legislation, right, you get more people arrested and in charge for really, I mean, I don't it was his only crime, alleged crime, right having the gun. He didn't commit a crime with the firearm, right, So I you know, essentially his crime is that he had a firearm that, according to law, he should not have had. But yeah, he lied on a gun. He lied on a gun for him. You know, they asked you, you know, have you ever you know, used drugs or whatever? Whatever? He said, no, he so he that was the charge. So I you know, it's hard for me to. Although I do have mixed feelings when it comes to like mental health and drug abusers, I don't necessarily I'm uncomfortable with the fact that we would ever take anyone's right to defend themselves away. But there's also has to be some sort of common sense where like, you know, if somebody, you know, should we allow people who suffer with schizophrenia to have firearms? Right that that may not be in the best case. You know, that may not be you know, the best case for you know, public safety, but or you know, or people who battle with addict you know, drug addicts orta drug addictions, right, that could be very dangerous. But I'm also like, if this person is recovered, right, who am I to tell somebody that they can't protect themselves the way that, you know, the best way that they can. So, you know, that's a that's a different topic. And I you know, I am sympathetic from that perspective just because of my own perspective on on firearms. So but just all in all, man, I I am not somebody who will embrace the suck. I am somebody who will say this is a six alarm fire and we are all in trouble. You know this train is going two hundred miles an hour and it's not on the tracks anymore. Well, we're alone for the ride, so it'll be in where we are. We are. Let them not follow you, sir. Follow me on Instagram and Twitter at brid t a E b R y E so Malley. Follow me on Instagram at Real Robin O'Malley, and you can follow me on Facebook at Robbin O'Malley. You can follow me at d the King pinn Hey where does dt h E k I N G p I N One more time, I want to send a special shout out to at least a slider, my dear friend for coming on the show. We really appreciated. We are out of here. We'll see you next time. Peace. This has been a presentation of the FCB podcast Network, where Real Talk Lifts. Visit us online at FCB podcasts dot com.
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