Ep. 404 - Springfield, Ohio area resident sheds light on their refugee crisis

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[00:02:54] so i will address that in full that a later date. But today we wanted to bring you all some information about what's going on in Springfield or

[00:03:14] I know many of you have heard about it, particularly because there was mention and the presidential debate.

[00:03:21] The old of you who know i think most of you probably know this but we're based in Ohio FCB is in Cleveland. So we're based in the state of Ohio.

[00:03:34] So soon as things started actually really before even before it was mentioned in the debate.

[00:03:43] One of my followers on social media had reached out to me probably about a week ago and asked me if i knew anything about what was going on in Springfield

[00:03:51] and at that point i started you know doing some investigating and trying to see who we can talk to on the ground and things like that.

[00:04:03] And so tith Kelly has been gracious enough to join us to tell us what she's seen, what she's heard, what she's experienced, what's been going on down there.

[00:04:18] And we're very grateful to that and of course we want to make sure that we bring that to you. There's a lot of rumors and speculation going on but you know if you listen to this show, you know we don't play that.

[00:04:31] We do everything we can to bring you information that is the truth, you know that's all we care about, we care about getting into the truth.

[00:04:43] So we're going to get to our interview with the tith Kelly right now.

[00:04:51] All right we have a very special guest with us today.

[00:04:58] She is a resident of the area that has been in a lot of news and Clark County which is part of which is where Springfield is.

[00:05:10] The tith Kelly thank you so much for spending some time with us and welcome.

[00:05:15] Oh absolutely thank you so much for having me.

[00:05:18] All right so welcome through a little bit about what you what you've been seeing what you are going to wear of.

[00:05:27] About some of the things that's been going on in Springfield in particular but the county in general as well.

[00:05:34] Okay um a few years ago you know 16 18 2019 and through there we started having an influx of some immigrants.

[00:05:45] You know we had Mexicans we had people from some of the Arabic countries there were some Chinese people someone's a whole mix of people lots of different people just a few people people they are no big deal.

[00:06:00] Then when the Biden administration came in we imploded with Haitians.

[00:06:08] You know they're they're just all Haitians and about two and a half years ago I remember my favorite stories marshals and I go there a lot way more than my checkbook should let me.

[00:06:21] And I came home one day and I told my husband I said I can't believe this but I was literally other than the people that work there literally the only person in the store that spoke English.

[00:06:34] I mean everybody was speaking you know in a foreign language and they were all kind of all over the place but mostly you know they were predominantly African American I thought that they're all speaking foreign language.

[00:06:51] So it's like they have to be from somewhere else and that's when you started hearing about the Haitians and the Haitians are moving in and the Haitians are in this concentrated in this area and all these different rumors going around and I'm the person that I'm like so prove it to me.

[00:07:11] For instance there's reported report after report there's 50 people living in a house you know they're renting cuts by the hour you know all of the kind of crazy stuff and I'm like okay where.

[00:07:24] Where give me addresses give me street names I want to know where and very few people shared addresses.

[00:07:34] But I went out went to those addresses my first experience was over on Kenton Street which is just a couple blocks away from where we used to go to church so I'm familiar with the area.

[00:07:47] And I've helped out with one of the other churches in that area as far as food pantry things and back to school book packs and that for kids so I drove over there you know I was pretty confident that I was safe.

[00:08:03] It was like a whole other world to me.

[00:08:06] I mean I've never seen that area look like that before and I went past the suggests it's an older home it's stone and brick and it has two portraits so it has the downstairs porch for the main entry and then above that is a roof but then it has a porch that comes out onto the top of that roof.

[00:08:28] Like one style of architecture my call like a widows walk.

[00:08:33] And that's all another story but it's just room for a lot of people so there were probably 25 30 people on the lower porch 25 or 30 people on the upper porch.

[00:08:44] There were four or five vehicles out in front of the house that had their doors open their hoods up their trucks up and all of these obviously Haitian men were all looking in and at the vehicles and then across the streets there's church.

[00:09:04] And on those steps in front of that sidewalk there's probably 40 or 50 again Haitian men standing around.

[00:09:11] And it's like whoa who have the heck is going on here and I just drive on by go down to the corner make a left and it's like wait it's happening here too.

[00:09:25] This is just wild so I get back home and I really start digging deep into the investigating why is it seem like it's only Haitians and I know why they're concentrated in an area because.

[00:09:40] They all speak the same language they're all comfortable with each other and you know I think that's pretty much acceptable how people immigrate to this country had always has been.

[00:09:51] That's why you have places like Chinatown.

[00:09:54] So I started asking around and I find out that either in 2006 or sometime between 2008 and 2009.

[00:10:07] We made a proclamation that we were a refugee city.

[00:10:14] Now that's different than a sanctuary city and there are only four refugee cities in the state of Ohio.

[00:10:22] Springfield being one and they have significant issues here the second place with almost as much significant issues is a place called Lapland which is a suburb of Cincinnati.

[00:10:35] And then we have Finley, Ohio which is having the same types of things we're having where they're talking about the animals and they're talking about.

[00:10:46] You know the people dress like don't wear any clothes in the min be than the creek and just all kinds of bizarre stories and then the last place is Tiffany, Ohio, which I haven't really heard too much about Tiffany.

[00:11:03] But I know that Lapland is trying to resend this order.

[00:11:10] To make matters worse in 2014 we started with the instance of a so-called pastor here.

[00:11:23] His name is Carl Ruby and of course he lives in a different city.

[00:11:30] He helped institute this program called Welcome Springfield.

[00:11:37] And that's when things probably became noticeable that we had all of these different refugees.

[00:11:44] So we've got the refugee city, we've got the welcome Springfield and then onto the scene arrives the Biden here is open the border and just let anyone in without checking any ideas or vetting people or even knowing what their name is.

[00:12:04] And so all of the Haitian people seem to be concentrated in one area.

[00:12:12] They are the temporary protected status people, which means they are considered refugees and they stay here because they're claiming amnesty.

[00:12:22] And that's been extended to January 2026.

[00:12:27] The West 2025 and the Harris or Biden here is a administration extended it to 2026.

[00:12:35] So that's what we're looking at now, 2026.

[00:12:38] But those are just for the temporary protected status.

[00:12:41] You've got the temporary protective status people.

[00:12:44] They can bring 6 to 8 people with them.

[00:12:50] So I would imagine that would constitute your family, but it seems like it is your buddy.

[00:12:57] It just seems like these are mostly all men is again, a bizarre situation.

[00:13:04] So mostly all men, but they get 6 to 8 people that can come on this refugee thing.

[00:13:09] And then you have the border jumpers that are illegal.

[00:13:14] And then you have the people that are from other Haitian communities in the United States predominantly Florida who either have been living here or who also have their friends and buddies and things come.

[00:13:29] So we have three different groups of immigrants, all with Haitian backgrounds living here.

[00:13:37] They obviously get along fairly well, but yesterday I found out there is such a thing as Haitian on Haitian crime.

[00:13:46] My problem with the whole thing is if we're a refugee city and we don't have the means to care for these people.

[00:13:53] I mean you're looking at a town of 54,000 people in a refugee city status.

[00:14:00] The immigrants have to live within the city.

[00:14:03] So we've got 54,000 people in the city and you add at least 20,000 immigrants within the city.

[00:14:14] That's the ratio is unreal.

[00:14:17] And we are told and I kind of did some math, but I'm not a math genius.

[00:14:23] But if you truly look at the statistics, per capita, we have more immigrants here per capita than New York City.

[00:14:33] And you've been seeing New York on TV.

[00:14:36] So take New York put it in Poeton Springfield, which used to be in 1981 like the Main Street City of America.

[00:14:48] And we were on the cover of Newsweak Magazine, Newsweak or time.

[00:14:53] Yeah that was before I moved here, but I was going to college here.

[00:14:57] And we were like the city of the year.

[00:15:01] And how we went from that to this is just nuts.

[00:15:09] And they, I feel sorry for them.

[00:15:12] They were taken advantage of in their home country and they're also being taken advantage of here.

[00:15:17] We brought them in this refugee city and it says we need to help incorporate them, give them jobs, help them live.

[00:15:26] There's a whole numerous things that you have to do when you're a refugee city.

[00:15:32] So let's talk about giving them jobs.

[00:15:35] They are hired through diversity hiring, which is a temp agency.

[00:15:40] If you're an American, you know a temp agency doesn't promise a full time job.

[00:15:45] It doesn't give you insurance.

[00:15:47] It doesn't give you any paid time off.

[00:15:49] It doesn't give you any leave.

[00:15:51] It most generally doesn't pay over time.

[00:15:54] So you've got these immigrants that are, they don't know any better that they have other rights that they're here for that are afforded to them under the constitution and amendment this and, you know, all those kinds of things.

[00:16:08] So they're working for next to nothing.

[00:16:10] They're not getting paid over time.

[00:16:12] They don't get any time off.

[00:16:13] They don't get any holidays.

[00:16:15] They are paying for rights to work if they don't have a vehicle.

[00:16:20] So they're totally being taken advantage of.

[00:16:23] And they're being paid less than an American would be paid in the same position.

[00:16:29] And these people that have hired them are happy.

[00:16:33] They're extremely happy because it's saving their business money.

[00:16:38] But there are some businesses.

[00:16:39] There's one in particular he let all of his immigrants go,

[00:16:45] because they were causing a problem with the employees.

[00:16:49] They were challenging the male employees and they were harassing the female employees.

[00:16:56] So he just released all of them and they left.

[00:17:00] So he has no more immigrant employees.

[00:17:03] So that's a situation with that.

[00:17:05] But again, it's unfair to these people.

[00:17:07] They're paying rent for $250 a week for a cut.

[00:17:12] You know, 12, 15, 40 people to a house depending on the size of the house.

[00:17:17] Many of the homes have been condemned previously and at least people are living in them.

[00:17:22] They have no water sometimes, no sanitation system.

[00:17:28] No heat, very unfair.

[00:17:30] They've been seen publicly nude in buck Creek bathing.

[00:17:37] And that's a place that the county and the city kind of tried in.

[00:17:42] And they, you know, they put in white water rafting and, you know, kind of made it an attraction.

[00:17:49] We've been working on trying to make our city a place where people would want to come and visit.

[00:17:53] And now it seems like all of those things are being degraded a little at a time because of this immigration system.

[00:18:01] It's taxed our school system.

[00:18:04] The school systems are overloaded.

[00:18:07] The first week of school we had 300 new Haitian students that had never attended school here before.

[00:18:15] It's my understanding last year, they were getting about 40 kids and that's a report that was put out by the city.

[00:18:21] They were getting 40 new kids per week at the school system.

[00:18:24] And it was costing approximately $10,000 per student per year to educate them.

[00:18:32] Because when you talk about educating them, you have a language barrier.

[00:18:37] They can't speak English.

[00:18:38] You've got to try to give them all of the amenities that you give to the actual residents like your handicap students or disabled students.

[00:18:49] Those students that have integrated education plans, those are given to the Haitian students.

[00:18:56] So that takes up all the money from those funds.

[00:18:59] And then you have these kids in the room with your kid who speaks English.

[00:19:05] But maybe your kids, you know, a little behind in math or English or social studies, whatever.

[00:19:11] Your kid can't get the attention that they need because the teacher is trying to communicate what a pencil is.

[00:19:21] And so they're trying to communicate with the teachers, because they don't speak English.

[00:19:25] And someone said, well, just put them in a school by themselves.

[00:19:28] Well, then you're kind of segregating them and you're putting them in harm's way and you're exploiting them and all those different kinds of things.

[00:19:38] Yeah, you run into some civil rights issues with that.

[00:19:41] Yeah, but doesn't it make doesn't it make sense to try to at least get them to be able to write their name.

[00:19:48] Speak English get some basic words down and then let's integrate you as you know those things into the public school system.

[00:19:56] Well, what I don't understand is why the federal government didn't do that they should have did that from getting free.

[00:20:03] You don't know me.

[00:20:03] I don't understand.

[00:20:05] I think that's part of there's a number of reasons why my view that these conflicts with the residents is happening, but I think that's one that's one of the problems right there is that the federal government really for my understanding.

[00:20:21] Just basically said, here you go figure it out.

[00:20:23] That's it that's it. That's it exactly the they dropped them off by the bus load and I've heard that we get anywhere from two buses to maybe three a day, but let's say there's at least five buses and let's say get 200 people at every bus.

[00:20:41] My gosh, that's a lot of people. So the bus pulls up, they get off the bus.

[00:20:46] There are vams there that will take some of these people now where they take them to throughout the city. I don't know and I don't know who the vans are yet. I haven't been able to pin that down, but I think that this organization that the pastor Carl Ruby started.

[00:21:03] Now it's organization. Let's go there guys says I'm not getting a dime from this.

[00:21:08] I guarantee your organization is getting money and I can guarantee you're getting a salary from your organization. So you are getting money off of the immigrants and you are taking advantage of them by doing so they come and they pick them up, take them wherever there's always some left that don't really have a place to go and they get out their phone and literally hike over to the cemetery.

[00:21:32] It's a couple of blocks away, maybe half a mile. And get to the cemetery they had straight to the back, which is where the tree line is that the cemetery doesn't utilize that for burial back there because we don't have them any people dying yet.

[00:21:50] But it's the tree line that butts up to Snyder Park, which is where everyone says all the ducks and geese and things are depleting they're being depleted. Now I drove there yesterday I did see geese but it's migration season so there's geese. I saw two white ducks and three wild ducks and those were the only water foul that I saw there.

[00:22:19] I cannot say that people are eating ducks. I have for the life of me track down several they ate my cat stories but I can never find the actual house or the actual person that's claiming that my cat was skinned in its hanging in a tree.

[00:22:40] So are they doing that? Perhaps because they have been found in other cities to be doing that. So it seems to be a pattern or a cultural thing for them, which I found several things online that says their culture does that.

[00:22:57] But to say that is actually happened here be on a shadow of a doubt I can't find a witness to it. But I have a witness that did see them grab a duck. So there's that.

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[00:24:53] And we also know that there was a there was a police report and now one called about about the geese.

[00:25:01] Yeah, we've been able to and I mentioned that some social media as well like we've been able to confirm the geese and the duck but not to not to cat and the dog.

[00:25:09] Right right but i mean and and i said yesterday on my social media i said you know maybe they don't have a cat but if that's what it took

[00:25:20] to get attention on the subject then so be it you know and stop blaming us stop blaming the people calling us racist and calling us hate mongers and all of those types of things.

[00:25:35] We're trying to survive we've got an average salary in the city of springfield of twenty two thousand dollars.

[00:25:44] And many of these immigrants with their benefits and the cash that they're getting without even working they're making more than the twenty two thousand dollars that these citizens were making.

[00:25:56] I mean totally backwards totally unfair and how are the immigrants getting this by our tax dollars.

[00:26:06] Why can't i take my tax dollars and give it to the local children center that helps with an after school program for you know impoverished kids.

[00:26:19] Why does the government get to make the decision on what i do with my tax money because it never goes towards anything good.

[00:26:26] It generally goes towards someone salary or someone pockets it or you find out you know years later that no money ever went to that organization to help people it just went to administrative costs.

[00:26:39] I guess it's you're rating and for the governor to say he's going to throw you know a couple billions dollars out of money is not going to solve this issue.

[00:26:51] I don't care how much money you throw at this it will not solve the issue tell you stop the flow.

[00:26:57] So all of these commissioners that keep saying it's not my fault and i don't have a part in it you can say we're going to recent that refugee city order we're going to recent the welcome spring field.

[00:27:14] The designation that we did you can recent that any time you have the ability to do that they did it without a vote from the people they don't need a vote from the people to rescind it.

[00:27:25] Do that deal with the people we have here in some way man or shape form however and move on from there but you can't keep adding more people and expecting a different answer.

[00:27:38] It's not what like that right and let's let's do into that a little bit more to because I know.

[00:27:46] And it's the racial angle was unavoidable because you know they're Haitians but there was a couple of things that i noticed one spring field the city is bring field itself is about 20% black so it's not so it's not like you guys have never seen black people down there.

[00:28:04] And i wanted to make that point because I think the image that people are getting you know of spring field is like it's just a bunch of outraged white people that are mad at all these dark people showing up.

[00:28:19] And they're sitting and like i said this the city itself right now is 20% black as people could be for the Sweden.

[00:28:27] I mean it the color is not the issue it's culture and language barrier right and so another source another spring field source told me that there's actually been issues between Haitians and black Americans.

[00:28:43] And part because of what you mentioned earlier about all of the benefits and things that they're being that they are eligible for the third getting.

[00:28:53] That the average every day American resident down there.

[00:28:57] Is in getting so i know they well i'm see that's where you got to watch the government when they say oh they don't get that much money but benefits translate into money.

[00:29:09] So yeah i've heard like 12 thousand dollars a month for rent and groceries.

[00:29:18] You also I guess get money from the government if you happen to be in owner of a rental you can get money from the government for just renting to the Haitians so there's a benefit there.

[00:29:32] And the Haitians they have each like i've told you we've got three separate groups that are integrating here but they just all have an any Haitian.

[00:29:43] They there have an EBT card which is entitled you to different foods and things like that or they've got some other type of debit card that they're using because when you come you get an initial.

[00:29:56] And then you have $2,000 because you have nothing when you come supposedly.

[00:30:03] So they'll go to the Walmart and i've seen them with carts piled high with all different kinds of stuff coffee makers toys food clothes just a numerous things that you can buy on a Walmart store.

[00:30:17] And they'll go through the register and the cashier will bring it up and they'll hand them the card and then the cashier has to say there's not enough money on your card.

[00:30:27] And they just keep handing the card back and the cashier keeps shaking you're gonna know and then they keep handing the card back and eventually you end up in a huge fight because they don't understand what it means i mean so far they've given that that card to everybody on it works why isn't it working now.

[00:30:45] And why can't i just take my things and lead so that's been an issue but then on the other hand when you talk with someone who.

[00:30:56] Watches them open their wallet or there's coin purse or sometimes it's just rolled up in their pants they'll take out a water cash and handed to the cashier to take out what she needs there they're trusting the cashier to take out.

[00:31:12] What the cashier needs to put in the register and then they're trusting her to give back the rest of their money.

[00:31:21] Now i don't know about you but i got kids that registers that can't even count.

[00:31:28] Right i don't get back my correct change so that's a lot of faith for them and again that's taking advantage of them that's taking advantage of them and putting them in a situation that should not be happening.

[00:31:44] Right absolutely so there's a couple other things that i wanted to kind of touch basis with you on.

[00:31:52] One is what this is cause what this is doing to the housing costs of her that this has been almost pricing some of the residents out so talk a little bit about what's been going on but without.

[00:32:07] Well you can get a two bedroom apartment for twelve hundred dollars which probably two years ago was six hundred seven hundred dollars and included utilities now they're having you pay your own utilities and my oldest daughter is the victim of that.

[00:32:25] You know her rent has went up exponentially the last couple of years and they've had to pay their own utilities and the reason for that is because.

[00:32:37] Like i said they have several of them living in apartments so there's like a family of and i don't even know if it's a family but she says there's like 12 or 15 of them living upstairs for her.

[00:32:50] So they're using the laundry facilities granted they pay at quarter or 50 cents or whatever cost but that's water and electric that the.

[00:33:01] Apartments are using and because the increased volume they had to start charging for those utilities so.

[00:33:09] My daughter's paying all those utilities which she didn't have to pay before.

[00:33:13] Now twelve hundred dollars a month for two bedrooms some of the cops that they're renting i've heard our $250 a week and then i've heard as little as a hundred bucks a night.

[00:33:24] But that translates to five hundred dollars a week which is more than two fifty and again i have not found the actual person.

[00:33:35] That is charging this i just get those stories.

[00:33:40] Second hand but our candidate for state senate kio caler does know an individual who owns about 600 properties and it is renting the cuts.

[00:33:56] So i tend to believe him he's an honest man he's a Christian man and he sees the plight of both sides.

[00:34:06] So.

[00:34:08] I'm.

[00:34:09] I have.

[00:34:10] How the residents been dealing with all of this we've seen obviously.

[00:34:17] Some of the complaints in the commission meetings and i believe springfield is a city manager.

[00:34:25] I mean the council manager.

[00:34:28] Right.

[00:34:29] Which for people may not be familiar with because a lot of people don't have that.

[00:34:35] There i mean they have a mayor but the function is the function is different it's not it's not the same as if you have a mayor in a city council you know i mean.

[00:34:44] The city manager has more power than the mayor does.

[00:34:48] The city manager is the person that is.

[00:34:51] And they're on a like a correct unelected official that's the problem with the mayor right there unelected officials telling everybody else what to do and the rest of us are over here saying we need to vote these guys out.

[00:35:04] Well, prom is these guys weren't ever voted in to start with.

[00:35:08] Great so how how are the how's everybody doing with with all of this right now.

[00:35:15] It's it's very, very stressful.

[00:35:19] If you go to the bank let's say you may have to wait an hour to cash your check because there's immigrants in front of you you know six or eight or two.

[00:35:31] And they don't understand what's happening they don't understand the language again they might want to take out i don't know a thousand dollars and maybe they only got a hundred dollars so that's an argument.

[00:35:43] And you know that takes four or five people to try to tell the person you don't have that much money.

[00:35:50] It's.

[00:35:50] Mass just to go to the bank or the post office is another big one i'm not quite sure where they're mailing stuff to but you can go downtown to the post office and they're raken it.

[00:36:13] And if you're a handicapped person i can't imagine trying to stand on a cane or use your walker to get around all these people you know there's increased flow people there's lack of parking.

[00:36:28] And it's not good.

[00:36:31] There's a lady i spoke with who lives in senior housing and it is i believe in your housing that's for seniors but you have section eight which is government assisted senior housing and i believe her housing is government assisted.

[00:36:49] And it's in this neighborhood and she come look out of her window and there is a home across the street with a detached garage.

[00:36:59] For writing an automotive repair and body shop out of this garage.

[00:37:06] And she's been fighting this for nineteen months.

[00:37:12] No one wants to listen the police say she's just going to have to put up with the noise and it's you know night and day.

[00:37:20] The night you know 5 a.m. on Saturday morning you name it and it's right out her window well.

[00:37:31] They are not licensed they're not a licensed business so they're not paying taxes they don't have a permit they have never been.

[00:37:40] And they're not even being respected or given any type of a go ahead.

[00:37:45] From the EP.

[00:37:47] And i know.

[00:37:48] It's my dad and a garage and body shop and my brother still runs it over in my camera county.

[00:37:54] They have to have a certain drain and you waste to dispose of the oil and waste dispose of the transmission fluid.

[00:38:01] And I mean you can't even fill your air conditioner up with free on anymore.

[00:38:06] That's a bio hazard so there's lots of things the EPA should go over there and immediately shut this place down they're throwing these.

[00:38:17] Contents down the drain or they're putting it in the sewer are they're just dumping it out in the alleyway.

[00:38:25] It makes no kind of sense just for that alone but they're not paying any taxes they're not paying any business insurance they're taking money they're not paying taxes on that money.

[00:38:36] I mean how are they doing this because if i would put up a sign in my resident right now and say that i was taking in child care.

[00:38:48] They would come and shut me down because i would be running a business out of a residential hole.

[00:38:55] So why aren't they shutting the immigrants down?

[00:38:57] I've heard that it's because it's a language barrier and nobody can do anything about it.

[00:39:04] But yet if you're in federal court, you can go right up to the counter at the federal courthouse right outside the courtroom and there is an entire list of language interpreters and you can pick up the phone and get an interpreter for any one of these hundred languages.

[00:39:25] Immediately so why can't our court system hook into that immediate interpreter system and if these people knew.

[00:39:40] That there were consequences then they might learn the culture and they might be a little more respectful.

[00:39:48] I mean they don't even get a ticket if they're speeding and if they're caught driving and causing accident and they don't have a driver's license.

[00:39:58] They get to drive away in their car.

[00:40:02] You you and I if we didn't go to jail, that would at least impound our car.

[00:40:07] And we would get a ticket so why is it anything happening to them?

[00:40:11] So it's it's it's it's two tier justice system yet again.

[00:40:17] Right right so last question here.

[00:40:23] Has there been any help from the federal government any assistance any anything from the federal government.

[00:40:30] You mean anything beyond what they offer to every single immigrant in every single city.

[00:40:36] Right right to the to the city itself to the resident like has there been any help no if there has been nobody's reporting it.

[00:40:47] There.

[00:40:47] They're keeping it under wraps, but there has been no help our hospital system you know we have a special HIV wing now and we've got TV that's rampant.

[00:40:56] And all of the bursts have to be cesarian and you know how like if you're under privileged when you have a child they give you formula.

[00:41:07] They'll give you a car see that kind of thing the Haitians want the car see they want clothes, they want a pack and play they want formula.

[00:41:16] They want anything they can get for free and you know who who can blame them I mean if they're going to hand it out to you know take it.

[00:41:24] So that extra fun.

[00:41:28] Sure what the fund is called but now the hospitals out of money so if you come in and you're under privileged and you need a car see.

[00:41:38] Oh well so much for that you're not getting one.

[00:41:42] So they're they're not giving money now.

[00:41:44] Schools I'm not sure maybe they give money more money for lunch you know because there's more kids more students but as far as funding for interpreters or Haitian Creole books or anything like that no nothing.

[00:42:02] Well, well so it sounds like there's a lot going on down there.

[00:42:08] There is yeah and it's not about cats and dogs it's a cultural divide it's stressful to both sides this is a pattern.

[00:42:17] Keg down here and car accidents every day you talk about road rage oh man we don't have the road rage issue yet but it's going to end up and it's going to be it you talk about national news now wait till somebody blows their lid.

[00:42:37] Wow well thank you so much for spending this time with us and let us know what's going on.

[00:42:46] Because that's very helpful because there's a lot of stuff being said yeah and like I told you we first talked my my only concerns getting to the truth so I appreciate you sharing that with me.

[00:42:58] Oh absolutely and that's that's what I am all about finding out what what is the truth what is really going on what's happening.

[00:43:06] I mean you read all this stuff on Facebook I was I read today some man said they're eating cats the reading dogs there is a eaten decent and I've heard they're eating people.

[00:43:19] Well okay who are they eating I need a name who got killed I so I mean you know they're not eating people for heaven's sake they're not eating people.

[00:43:29] That just is how far fetch things get when you start.

[00:43:34] What did what did they used to call it back in the day.

[00:43:40] Some kind of a rumor you know the allocators in this sewer kind of folklore legend bull crap weather.

[00:43:49] Urban miss let's say.

[00:43:52] Right right absolutely well thank you again I appreciate thank you and have a great afternoon.

[00:43:58] All right you two one more time one to see the special thank you to the T. Kelly for joining us on the show we really appreciate it we are out of here see you next time peace.

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