This is the FCB Podcast Network. Great when the trunk jump foot change at Tom Dunk. We don't listen to y'all this d out. We don't listen to y'all this d hotel. Make them scream out Now, let us sound dumb cause the rockets in the Crown lug up, tuned in the chug for the outdo, tuned in the trunks for the Outlook. Welcome to the Outlaws. This is Darvey Oda King Nmar alongside Robin O'Malley and Dante Brian. Make sure that you subscribe to the show and have a podcast Spotify, I heard, wherever you get your podcasts, and make sure that you follow us on Twitter or x at the Outlaws Radio, Instagram at the Outlaw Radio Facebook at Facebook dot com, slash the Outlaws Radio, and make sure you check out our brand new website, the Outlawsradio dot com. That's the Outlawsradio dot It's a pretty dope sight, if I do say so myself. Miss How are you? I'm actually great. I'm great. I ain't got no complaints. How was your Thanksgiving? It was mellow? I you know what. I had my little gathering here at my home, just a couple of us, my kids, my niece, and my aunt and I actually had them all helped me put up the tree Thanksgiving morning while we watched the parade, and then we went to a couple of other family houses. We stay long just to avoid any family confrontation because you know, if you stay too long, you're overstaying. You're welcome. And then I just went behind home and went to work the next morning. So, I mean, it was cool. Its cool. How was yours? It was cool? It was low key. I just kind of needed some time just. To catch my breath, you know, and it's been been a long. Year, so just kind of low key. Man. I had a good Thanksgiving dinner, watch some games and you know, just kind of chill man. Really really just kind of enjoyed the low key, low key Thanksgiving data. How you doing, sir, I'm doing well. I'm not a big fan of his cold weather. We haven't so uh. I'm hoping we break out. So that's yeah. I'm not a fan of this cold weather. I'm not a fan of his SNOWM tired of it. I'm getting too. I was. Thanksgiving was I love Thanksgiving. That's my favorite holidays. Good food, family and in football, So like I personally, I love Thanksgiving. That's my favorite holiday. This year was cool. It was chill. I stayed in the house because it was we started getting snow that night in a Friday, so I got everything done Wednesday night. It's like, you know, I'm in the house. Thursday kept it kept it quiet just because we knew the snow was coming. And uh Friday, I was, you know, off for Black Friday. But it's uh was so glad to be home because I saw, yeah, we got you know, I live in the snowbelt for anybody that doesn't know, I live in Lake County, so it's uh yeah, we got hammered with the snow so uh. Not inchest feet. So I wasn't I wasn't going anywhere. I didn't leave the house until I tried to shove a little bit. Saturday morning wasn't happening, and then because it was still snowing, then Sunday it was snowing all day. So it's like I'm not going outside again until Monday when I actually have to go back to work. And I shoved Monday morning because I was like, yeah, say I ain't going over. Just ain't it? Nah? Hey over here, it sure was because I don't live in it. S it's not that bad. Actually not as bad as y'all because man, listen and shout out to shout out to our listeners that live in Lake County, Ohio. But I always say this Lake County. Is beautiful, like it's absolutely beautiful, but I can't live there. And this is why, because like everybody thinks about like snow in Cleveland or whatever. But like Robert was just saying, everybody doesn't get hit the same, Like the further east you are, the more you get hit. And you know, I used to live in Collinwood, That's where I'm from. And you know, Collinwood, Dante is probably about what fifteen minutes from Lake County, so it's not it ain't that far. So we would get hit too. You didn't get hit as bad as Like County, but we would get hit pretty bad. So man, when I got out of Collingwood, I was like, man, and and saw this, it would be like, you know, some of my family members that still live on the east side, they'd be like, man, it was so bad out here, Dad, And I look outside. I'm like, man, it ain't nothing out here. Not a thing. That's it right. I'm like, man, I'm chilling. I'm like, shoot. So I kept seeing people saying it's so bad out here, and I'm like, what's y'all talking about? Lake? I don't see nothing. But it was so bad that the governor declared a state of emergency in those counties. That's crazy. Yeah, I see. I've seen some pictures, pictures, that's how bad it was. Dance. I know you got people in New York. Do you have anybody in Buffalo or just. In uh my people all live in the city, in New. York City because you hear how Buffalo got hit too, Buffalo they got Yeah. If you off the you off that lake. Erie. I know somebody I went to school with, somebody who lives in Erie now ever Astrabulah. If you the further, the closer and further up that lake you are, you get what's called lake effect. Yes. And if if you are from Ohio, if you live off of the lake Ohio, Michigan, you know, any state like that, you get what's called lake You understand what lake effect is. And uh, let's just say, I mean, if you've ever experienced being in a lake effect snow situation. Prime example is what our parents told us that they used to walk home into schooling right, you walk up them hills, they said, And that's exactly what I pictured too. That's so funny, man, Listen, it was I saw them pictures, and like I said, when I was in Collingwood, we used to get hit like that too, and it would just be it would be, man, it will be so much snow and. You had to You got to. You got to pop, you know, pole it or shovel it or whatever you do if you got a blower or whatever. You got to because you can't drive in that mess. Because you try to drive and then your car gonna get stuck. Yep mm hmm. You ain't going nowhere, absolutely nowhere, You're gonna be spinning out and everything. Well it's like different compared to where I like, where I grew up, and compared to here where I am now mm hmm, Like there, you was gonna get stuck. Here. I didn't get stuck. I almost spun out the day after, which was like just the other day yesterday, I almost spun out going to pick my knees up from her job. And it wasn't even like I was going faster I hit my brakes. I just happened to hit a patch where my car decided it was just gonna hit that little turn, you know, and me and me and my daughter we almost went uh straight ahead on into a pole. And this guy like, instead of slowing down, this guy behind me, he was going to try to go around me when my car was still like moving. And I'm like, these people are crazy. Yeah, it's insane. And that's I think that's the worst thing about the snow. Like I don't necessarily I don't like being cold, but I don't necessarily mind a winter because my my winter gear is. Fly So I like wearing my winter clothes, you know what I'm saying, My winter outfits and whatnot. But the way that people drive, it's like it's like everybody has forgotten how to drive in the snow. Like they drive so recklessly man. And it's and it's crazy, man, it's scary. Like I was telling y'all before the show started, my mother and I was coming back from Columbus yesterday, and like I mentioned to you, Dante, and I know that you lived in Columbus when you went to Ohio State. I never realized because anytime I travel to Columbus a lot, but normally when i'm coming back, it's during the day. I didn't realize that there's a large part of that highway where there's no lights and when you drive at night, especially in the winter, where you know, the sun goes down quicker. Man, it was damn near pitch black in some places, right, and then the snow hit. As soon as I got in the Madinah County, the snow hit and it was like blinding. It was like it was almost like a blizzard, like we were stuck in a blizzard. Bro. And I told y'all, I'm tripping, man, because I'm driving. And I'm like, and I ain't never i ain't never drove in nothing like this before, you know. And my mother keep telling me, move over, move over. I'm like, move over where Like I can't see them, I can't see the street, i can't see the lines. On the street. I'm afraid I'm gonna hit the media. And I said, you know what, screw this. I got off the highway, even though it added an extra hour to my travel time. I said, I'm taking that. I'm taking the street. I'm like, I'm not doing this. I'm not doing this yeah, and. Then people driving fast and crazy like like they acting like like I know, y'all see the snow out. Here, because they think they're invincible. Are They're like, oh, I got good tires or good breaks. It's like okay, and well good luck. You ain't superman, right, like you gotta drop. And I be thinking about that too, Like it was. It was a girl that I went to elementary school with. And I can't remember if we went to the same high school or not too, but when we got out of when we both got out of school, you know, she had a little she had a little crush on me. I didn't know about it or whatever. She was cute like she was. She was fine, and I ran into it once at the store, and you know, we kind of struck up a conversation. I'm like, hey, how you doing, and you know, hey, let's catch up. She was in college at the time and was like, hey, you know, we'll catch up, you. Know when you come back. Blah blah blah. Well, she was traveling, she had went back to college and then she was coming up and I think it was December and she was driving and it was wintertime and she was on the highway, hit a patch of black ice, spun out, crashed, and she she died, She passed. Away, she died in that car accident. So like ever since then, I was like, yo, like this is sirius, you know what I mean? Like you could just be mining your business and driving normal and hit a patch of ice and and next thing you know, you're not here no more. Yep. So it's like you. Gotta better take this seriously. But then and then you see these people that you know, she was driving normal, you know what I mean, driving normal, hit the patch of black ice, and that's it. Then you see these people out here driving crazy, driving crazy. It's like, man, you can't do that. Like you put your life in danger, you put other people's lives in danger, all of that. You can't drive like it's the summer man. But on a speaking of summer, on a on a more lighter note, I don't know if y'all saw the a post from the Instagram account I'm from Cleveland that there was some dude driving in this snow with his drop top down. I see that, No, I ain't see it only in Cleveland, man. Or the dude that was surfboarding in Edgewater, Oh, I didn't see that one. He had on shorts, nothing on and he's like a professional diver and he had on a Santa hat and some red shorts. And that's it. That's when this when it was like freezing out from the snow and everything. Okay, y'all know, I have to ask this question. Was he white? Yes? Yes, yes he most him and his brother both do it. I seen it on. Oh what was it? Like the Cleveland Remembrance page I think, and a couple of other pages or that Cleveland I don't know, one of those group pages. But yeah, I'm just like, what that man go end up with frost bite? That is insane? That is that is insane. But I believe it. Man like this, Hey, that's Cleveland as a matter of fact. As a matter of fact, last year's edition of Cleveland magazine when they did the most Interesting People that I was in by the way, I think that the cover guys were people who like do that in Lake Erie, like they like slid or I don't even know what you call it, like slid or snowboard or whatever. And in lake. Erie as a matter of fact, like and it was two brothers, they might be the same people. Did they have long hair kind of yeah, and a beard? Yes? Oh wow, yeah, yeah they were. They were on the cover of the of the Most Interesting uh People, an issue of Cleveland magazine last year. So yeah, I know exactly what you talking about. Yeah, they're crazy. They are crazy the way i'd be like, I need some sweat bands, a hoodie, big socks, a big coat. You know, that's so funny. I don't know if I told the story on the era now, but I remember when I was in high school and I was dating this girl and she was occasion and my father. My father, took me over to her house one day. Right, this is a dead o winner, middle of winner. She comes to the door. You know, we pull up in the driveway. She comes to the. Door and T shirt and shorts and all of that. Right, my father looked at me, and I swear to God, I'll never forget this. He looked at me because he was so serious. He wasn't joking, y'all. Y'all know my father, My father could be a jokester and all that. But he looked me dead in my face, and he was dead serious. He was like, do they not get cold. In front of her? No? He was asking me before she got there, because he was dead serious, like he was like, do they not get cold? I don't know. I mean yes, yes, but I mean I don't know. And it's like I can't even ask you because like you white, but you ain't like white. White, So yeah, I don't know that answer. But you know, like like your cousins and stuff, like do they not get caught? Not really? I think I think that I don't know because I feel like I've only noticed that in the kids. I don't really know. I've never really seen the adults in my family be weird like that. I think it's mostly the kids. He does. My godson's father. He'll go in the middle of being the middle of. Winner with some short song and I'm like, dude, you crazy. Y. I think some people are different though, because like their legs will be fine. But then again, that surfer dude, he's different so because he ain't have nothing on. Yeah, I mean, like I said, teenagers, I see teenage the teenagers going outside with just hoodies on and shorts on and or nothing on, just like shorts and the shirt, Like what is wrong with y'all? But but you'd be like, uh uh I'm cold. Yeah, I need a hoodie, a coat, sweatpants. It's not playing those those thick slipper socks, so. I feel it. But all right, stay tuned definite. When we come. Back, we have Tea Time with Roe. You're listening to the Outlaws. Real talk, real conversations. We got the heat. Hell yeah, this is the Outlaws Radio Show. Welcome back. You're listening to the Outlaws. And now it's the time of the show that we like to call turn. It Upation, the latest celebrity news and gossip. It's Tea Time with Rowe on the Outlaws Radio Show. All right, So I actually got a few things for you guys. It's gonna be like a little rollercoaster ride with these topics. So first I'm actually gonna go with the one that is origin. That is a story that is here in Cleveland. I'm gonna start off with So a pastor bought a former strip club to turn into a church. He I'm guessing, so he's trying to purify Cleveland's adult district. That is crazy to think, like, let me just go sit here in the pew, you know, and think like this is like where the girls usually drop it, like it's hot. You know, it's where they used to get down and throw dollar bills or whatever. So to be honest, I don't mind it. It don't bother me. I mean, obviously, as long as they take the poles down and all that, right, it's a funny story. But it's like it don't I don't mind it. I mean, especially a lot of these newer churches, like they're not in like cathedrals anymore, you know what I mean. Like a lot of these churches they have stages and they have lights, and they have big screens and all, and that's a production, you know what I mean. So I could understand, you know, why you would use some of the stuff that's in there, even even a stage. You know, they probably should take the pole down, But. But I don't see the probably don't say what do you think. I mean, you need a building? You need a building? I guess I don't. I don't know. Yeah, I mean he needed building, so maybe you know that's a weird one for me. I don't know. Hes they just need a place to congregate and worship. Yeah, don't. I don't think there's anything wrong, Like I don't think it's sinful for him to buy a former strip club, Like, as long as it's not a current strip club, as long as he doesn't. Like do service on Sundays and yeah, sound system and everything. Works, right, they don't bother me, man, this As long as he don't do you know, service on Sundays and in thirsty Thursdays and bust it open Saturdays, you know what I mean, as long as it's just the church, right, because this church, I think it's fine. It doesn't bother me at all. Next. All right, So next, so we are going to talk about so Eminem. If you don't know who Eminem is, he is a rapper. He has been around for years, I think. I don't know about it, right, they better know who Eminem is, Huh, they'd better know who Eminem is. Your grandmama better know. I mean, I don't know. So if you don't, then you you are living under a rock. But so Eminem had issues with his mother, and so Eminem did make amends with his mom about a decade ago, and just yesterday his mom did pass away. She was battling lung cancer. She was sixty nine years old. At first, I was like, oh, no, like you know, I was like really concerned, and I'm like, oh, this is gonna break his heart. And I'm like okay at first, and then I seen that he did make amends with her, and then I seen that his brother was talking about like you know that he was he felt anger and he was angry and mad and but sad because both of them hated their mom because she did drugs and she wasn't really uh fit, she wasn't really present. And that's something that is really important as a parent. You know, we we have to learn how and when you know what to choose, we need we need to focus and put our kids first. But you know, I am glad to hear that him and his mom did make a mess. Yeah, I'm I am too. I mean it's and I was. I was an Eminem fan as a kid, and because like that was. Like the angry rage against the machine type music at all that most of the kids were listening to. That was like the rebel music. It was like Eminem was like the guy that everybody told you not to listen to, so we would listen to him just because they. Said not to. I could never relate to some of the songs that he would make about his mother or whatever, because that wasn't. My experience, you know what I mean. My relationship with my mother was not like that. You know, my relationship with my mother's extremely well, you know what I mean, It's always been, always been good. I've always had a good relationship with my mother, So I've never been able to relate to that. As a matter of fact, I've never seen that kind of relationship, that kind of toxicity in my family, directly. In my immediate family at least, you know what I mean. I know, maybe some distant cousins or stuff, or distant relatives that didn't have the best relationship with their parents, but for me, like it's really it always kind of stands out when someone has that kind of issue with their mother. Normally you hear about people having issues with their fathers, but when you have someone that has an issue like that with their mother, always kind of stands out because it's not it's not that common. So I'm glad. I'm glad they made amends, you know. And to be honest, and. Again, I never had this situation. But I don't know that even if I did, just with just the nature of who I am as a person, my personality, I don't even know if I would if I would have went so publicly at my mama like that, you know what I mean, even if we had issues, I don't know if. I would have would have done that. Like he wrote songs about killing his mother, He wrote songs about you know what. I mean, Like he's just wow, wild stuff, And I don't know if I would have did that. Like God, say, if you hadn't been to him, would you have done that? No, it's it's you know, I like a few Eminem songs, But I never really could relate to Himinem. I mean, I respect him, but I could never really relate to him. Just a lot of a lot of his content never really like resonated with me. Like I said, respect this talent, I sort of, I just you know, you wonder about certain stuff like that. Like I mean, maybe he put a lot of his pain and stuff into his art and that's how he was able to get to the place that he got to. But then, you know, life is is sure. So I hope that him and his mom were able to be on solid terms. Cause again, I have never been able to relate to people who have issues with their mother. That's not that's never really been like my struggle. Right, My mom and best of friends and very close. So I've never been able to relate to anything like that. But I understand it. I mean, like I, you know, but everybody's got some form of parental issues, right, you either got MoMA issues, daddy issues, or both. So I mean I get it. But that's never been like my struggle. So I've never really been able to relate, but I have. There are some other eminem songs where I'm like, oh, I like this, but as a whole, he was never really like my cup of tea specifically. So no, I wouldn't have role songs like that. But I'm also not. An artist either, right, There's that too where it's like I try to see things from an artist perspective, where like if you're an artist and you're going through something, you're probably gonna put that into your art in some form of fashion. So that part, I, you know, I really wouldn't understand it, right because like maybe if I had issues, you know, for example, like with my father, and we put like and I was a musician when I put that in my music, if I was a painter when I put that in my you know, I don't know, probably right, like cause that's kind of what being an artist is. But I don't. But I don't understand that perspective. And I also don't understand like having issues with your mom to that extent. I thought about killing my mom. No, that's whold like that and it's even wild to just think about like that. Nothing like that has ever even crossed my mind. Right, Absolutely not, because I mean, I'm I'm like you, man, like my my relationship with my mother has always been solid, you know what I mean. So, and my mom has pissed me off a time or three in my life, you know, but it was more like, you know what, I don't even want to talk. I'll talk to you later. It was never the sense of I want to harm you, right. You ain't never been like, man, I want to my MoMA. Right, We're done with this conversation. Mom, exactly. And like like I said, I used to listen to him and then like when Eminem came out, I was in the sixth grade, you know what I mean, when he first like when his first album blew up, so like we would listen to him because that was like the era of. Doing all the. Stuff that they told you not to do as far as like in tainment goes, Like we was watching South Park and listening to Eminem and and uh telling everybody to suck it because of wrestling, you know what I mean? Like that was. That same era, Robin, that was that same period of time, in that period of time, But but the older I got, like I just kind of stopped listening to him because like N taste it, like, you know, I didn't really relate to the subject matter all like that. And once that rebellious, once it stopped being rebellious to listen to Eminem, you know what I mean, Like I didn't really listen to him all like that. I still always respect his talent because he is an incredible rapper. Nobody can take that away from him. And there are still some songs that I like, but like when I would listen to I listened to his first three albums. I bought all three, The. Slim Shady OLP, The Marshall Mathews LP, and The Eminem Show. And it was after the Eminem Show that I kind of fell off from listening to him because it just it wasn't you know, he was mainstream at that point. It wasn't it wasn't rebellious. You weren't shocking anybody at that point to listen to eminem music. And the reason why a lot of us kids who didn't have those who didn't come from those environments that he did. I mean, obviously we came from we came from struggling environments, but I didn't come from I didn't come from a trailer park. And I didn't hate my mother, you know what I mean. So I didn't have that. I didn't have that particular situation. But the reason why a lot of us who didn't have that situation would listen to him because it was the rebel music and it was in an era of rebelliousness. Like I remember sneaking sneaking around when my when my mom was sleep, trying to sneak up and watch soft Park because I knew, damn well, I wasn't supposed to be. Watching it, but all the young kids were, you know. I mean, so he was. He just kind of fit in that mold for me. But you know, the older I got, it was just like I just it didn't really appeal to me anymore. And part of it was because it's like, man, because now, if you go back and you listen to some of the songs now, Like I listened to one of the songs that I really. Used to like because the beat was nasty, the beat was dope, but when you go back and listen to the words, you'd be like, oh my god. As a matter of fact, they have a video on YouTube right now of people reacting to it. It's a song called kill You. If you haven't heard that song, make sure no kids are around, but go listen to kill You. And I listened to that song like maybe a couple of months ago for like the first time in years, and. I was like, yo, we were listening to this, Like I'm like, this is wild. So but yeah, So anyway, I'm glad that they were able to to make up beforehand because I think that's that's important. And he would have he would have had regrets if they didn't. You don't want to have any regrets, especially when someone passes. You know what I mean. Right next, So next, I want to talk a little bit about so it's kind of you know, I don't want to say similar, but as far as the struggle topic, what we were just kind of speaking on, so, uh, correct me if I'm saying this man's name wrong, High Senate. Is that how it is? Okay? So this man, he started out struggling. Him and his. Mother and all his siblings. They started out living in a shelter. They were poor, poor, poor, They were living in a shelter. They were struggling. Kai recently, just a few days ago, made history becoming a multi millionaire and twitches top streamer after living in the shelter with his mom and siblings. And this story, you know, truly is to speak on just for I wanted to touch on this because this is something to give those who have big dreams for themselves, and you know, they think that it's just not something that's for them, and they're grow up, they grew up being taught to are told that, you know, it's just merely a dream, kind of something similar to what I you know, I grew up. You know, a dream. It's just a dream. It's not it's never gonna come true. And a lot of people tend to think that. But like this story right here, that I love hearing stories like this because stories like this gives so many people hope and just that push that that willpower that fire to know that it's possible It is possible if you have dedication and determination, if you really have that belief, but you have to you have to be very strict on yourself and just stay focused. But so he was only twenty two or at the age of twenty two. He's currently twenty two, so it's in twenty twenty one he shared his story and it hit the million subscribers on YouTube. He spoke about once living in Georgia in the shelter with his mom and his siblings, and his drive that I just spoke about has made him that multi millionaire, which by the way, he was able to buy his mom a house, a big house. And what child does not have that dream not only become successful, but to buy your parents a. House, absolutely no doubt. And you know, I think that was fantastic. Shout out to Kai Sannat. I mean, it's just incredible. And it reminded me when you were talking, Robin, it reminded me of a line from a. Rap song from somebody who I can relate to a little bit more than eminem jay Z, where he talked about how people in his neighborhood would say he can't do this, and you know, the world don't like us if that is that not clear? And he said, all right, but I'm different. I can't base what I'm gonna be off of what everybody isn't. You got to just go for it, you know what I mean. And you can't let your situation, you can't let your circumstances hold you back. You know, You've got to just you gotta just go for it, man, and you go for it. Take the Lord with you and good things that have that's are your thoughts. Yeah, it's really interesting how young he is. But it's cool to see because like he did it in an alternative way too, Like he didn't go to traditional you know, giga grades, go to college, get us uplift yourself out of poverty that way, right, He just found his Niche shout out to the internet through providing that you know that time, and then he was able to just make it happen, right like consistency and he found his lane and you know, he made it happen. That's I always think stories like that are done. I always do because you know, with the advent of technology and the more we have of it and the more we figure out how to use it, like historial probably be inspirational with some other young kid that like, who knows what type of stream technology will have in fifteen years some kid watching him and figure out something new and be able. To do the same. So I think that's really cool. Well, and also, man, I always say the the Internet is a great equalizer. It really is. And you know, I wouldn't have a career if it. Wasn't for the Internet, especially because when I started, a lot of this stuff was in its infancy. You know, in two thousand and five, two thousand and six, you couldn't get in in the traditional route, you know what I mean. So I had to build it, and sometimes it takes you. Sometimes it takes you longer. Sometimes you don't always pop up at that young age like I did. Sometimes it takes you longer when you have to build it on your own. But the Internet is a great equalizer, and that is the thing that allows you to be able to compete if you know how to use it, you know what I mean. And so it's just really just studying, putting a whole lot of work in. Even now, like I'm putting even more work in and still study and still learning about how to use some of these new things. In order to you know, go to the next level and take us to the next level and all of that, you know what I mean. So it's just always a stay constantly learning, constantly adapting. And and use these things that you have. Use these tools that you have at your disposal, you know what I mean, because if you use them, they could work for you. Next Robin, close. Us out, all right, So the next one. I'm sorry that I ended it this way. But so recently there was a CEO of United Healthcare, Brian Thompson, and Brian Thompson. He went to step out of a building he had I believe he was getting ready to speak and he had there was an attack. He was actually getting ready to go to the Rockefeller thing, I believe, right. No, it was a conference. He had a conference and it was like right before the tree lighting. Too, Yes, And it was down the street from the treelane. Yes, so. Somebody a hit man, I'm gonna say, allegedly. I don't know. I can't really, you know, I can't say too much. Somebody was waiting outside of this building that he was coming out of getting ready to go to that conference. They were waiting for him. They were on a bike on a bike, one of those electric bikes, and he shot him multiple times, ending his life. And what is crazy about it is that the bullets they had something engraved into the bullets. So the bullets had words that said deny, defend, and depose. What is crazy is that these words actually are I think in reference to a book. And honestly, like I said before, it's we don't know the story behind it. We don't know the story behind it. And they cannot find the man. They actually pulled up two different pictures of a white man, which, by the way, in the in the video of the officer or whatever speaking on it called him white skinned. Just want to speak on that part. Light skinned? Light skinned is crazy a but they pulled up two different pictures of two different men that have somewhat of a similar jacket and two different book bags on but one man. I'm like, they are idiots. There's no way that they think that this one guy is this other guy. Now, this one guy he's gonna end up getting hit with these charges and he is not even a part of the crime. Oh wow, Yes, it is crazy. But I think that those words written on those bullets are something that has to do with somebody that was in their feelings. Potentially, this is just my opinion that potentially could be something that has to do with either something they are dealing with health wise they didn't get approved, or maybe something wasn't covered, maybe a loved one, you know, they didn't make it because the coverage didn't cover it, or whatever the case. I don't know, but people need to learn to stop taking things to the heart. You know, it's crazy, ah, how unhinged some people are. Absolutely I think that's a great it's a great way to put it. I don't want to see us live in a world where, you know, people are just getting shot. We already see enough of that, but it's like, now you're just targeting people. And I think Dante made a very very good point during the break and so I think you should kind of lay that out on the air because I don't I think you're absolutely right, Like, I don't think people really understand what CEOs do. I think there are some people that are thinking. You know, you see it on social media, Yeah, I'm glad he got shot because he's the one that denied my mama her operations. Like, no, that's that's not how this works. So Dante layout what you were saying during the break. Yeah, ceo is. Especially at like a publicly traded company, a CEO is just a high level employee. Generally, a CEO by themselves will not implement or or will not come up with policy. They can create a plan to implement policy. But you know, a CEO themselves can be fired, right, Like, they don't own anything. They're they're just an employee. They can they can be fired. So the company is, if it's a publicly traded company, is really run by a board of directors and owned by the shareholders. So to shoot this guy. Doesn't really do anything because they're just you know, United Health Cooper is just going to replace him, right, as harsh as that may seem, like their business has to is going to continue. So if you are unhappy with that, like you know, it would. It has more of an pact because he is the sort of the most high profile or probably the highest paid employee at the company, right but and the highest ranking employee at the company, so it would make But at the end of the day, a CEO is really just an employee, right And they I saw somebody say, like, you know, a CEO gets shot going into an investor meeting, and the only thing the company is going to do is just postpone the investor meeting. Right, That's how much of an impact it's going to have on the company itself. Right now, Obviously they're going to do stuff. You know, they're going to have a memorial and they're you know, the I'm sure he was a beloved guy and stuff like that that that I'm not trying to minimize his debt. I'm trying to say, like, the company itself is not going to be hindered because they lost an employee. Yes, and that's what people have to understand about, like a this does not This is not gonna make United say, oh wow, we you've got to figure out something else because our you know, he was an employee that died. Right. They are not gonna I don't think. I think they're gonna try and get to the bottom of this. They're gonna be a help to law enforcement as best they can, but nothing is gonna change with their company specifically, it can't. Right, they have a like we talked about. Also, like you mentioned, they have a fiduciary duty to their sharehold right, this is not a situation where they can just make sweeping in wholesale changes. Because their CEO was shot, They're gonna continue to do what they do because their business you know, they feel like their business model works. Yep, absolutely absolutely, and it's and so it's unfortunate. First of all, this is a man with a wife and his and family and all that. People that loved him. So I don't think I don't think that there is. Any excuse for celebrating this man's death like a lot of people on social media are doing. But to your point, it doesn't even solve the issue. If you have issues with the system, where you have issues with how United Health does things or whatever, this killing the CEO does nothing, like does nothing to address those issues because all they're gonna do, like Dante said, is replace them with somebody else. Yeah. Yeah, and it's about as unfortunates as can be. But yeah, that's that's all they're going to do. Right because at that level, and you're a publicly traded company and the CEO doesn't own the company or own the majority of the shares. Dante's absolutely right. He's just an. Employee and the board will replace him with someone else because that's what. They do you know what I mean? So, all right, on that note, speaking of Dante's stay tuned. You're gonna hear more from Dante when we come back here on the Outlaws. Welcome back and listen to the Outlaws. 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Whether you like it or not, it's Dante's hot takes on the Young Lawns radio show. So the Daniel pennycases now in court, and I'm gonna toss it to you, Darvo, because admittedly I just just got hip again to this to this story. I remember when it happened, I remember when he was arrested, but I haven't followed this case. So I'm gonna toss it to you because it some we have some some things happened today where it looks like maybe somebody's charge got dropped, but then they're going to deliberate about new charges and sounds like precedent has been broken. So yeah, what what's what's going on? Oh yeah, So essentially Danie Penny case was in New York. There was a guy who was threatening uh people on on the subway, threatening to kill people, threatening a pregnant woman, and situation escalated to the point where Daniel Penney, Daniel Penny, I believe, I can't remember if you put him in a chokehold or some sort of hold, and the guy eventually passed away. Now, the key thing is that he was not gone when the police got there, he was still alive. That's a key that's a key element also. But also you know people felt under threat. There were people on the on the train who were thinking Daniel Penny for coming to their aid. Well, he ends of getting charged. He got indicted. He got indicted for manslaughter, and he got indicted for a reckless homicide. Now it's in trial. Now it's been put in the hands of the jury. The jury came to a hung jury on the charge of manslaughter. So originally the case was those the two charges were connected, and the judge agreed to that. Well, now the prosecution is trying to drop the manslaughter charge where the jury is deadlocked on and just let them consider negligent homicide, which as you know, is a lesser charge than manslaughter. But it still gets him convicted of something which I personally think is a little absurd. I'm not even sure if he should have been in in the first place. I do find it funny, not in a funny haha way, but in a funny like I. Can't believe y'all don't know this. I saw there was a one post from a guy by the name of Bonci who writes for a red state. He said, If this garbage in the pennycase stands, every prosecutor will now be incentivized to overcharge, knowing they can lose and get a do over by dismissing the more serious charges. It turns prosecutions into a buffet where das can keep eating. Until they get a guilty verdict. Well, I don't want to be the person to surprise this man, but that's already been happening and damn near every state in the Ilion's the reason why a lot of people consider that to be prosecutorial misconduct. There's a reason why who you're prosecutor or strick attorney, whatever you call them, who that person is matters. There's a reason why you should be involved in those races. While you should make your voice we heard in those races, as I did in our county prosecutor race, because we have been to have a good county prosecutor. That's why those things matter. Because prosecutors do that all the time. They do it all the time. They intentionally overcharge all the time knowing that it makes it gives them more leverage to get you convicted of something. So I think, particularly in that situation, this is a case of prosecutorial misconduct. I don't even know if Daniel Penny should be charged in the first place, But I don't know. Man Dante, I know you have more experience with the culture of New York. So just kind of your thoughts now that we've kind of got through like the nuts and bolts of the situation, what are your thoughts, especially knowing the culture of New York and actually having ridden on the subway. Yeah, for me, it's almost kind of weird because, like you know, you ride the subway, most New Yorkers are just like there's a lot of people that are mentally ill in those spaces. So a lot of times people in it, you know, you're just not paying those people any attention, right, like unless they're directly in your face, and then a lot of times people just get up and move right. It's not something that you feel threatened by because you know, like they had this person is probably a little off, or there's there's maybe something wrong which doesn't excuse bad behavior. Is just more so like I don't even just avoid this, you know what I mean? Like New Yorkers are very I want to say, what's the I don't know what the proper term is here. I don't want to get in trouble. But you know, New Yorkers can be very aggressive, but they can. Also just. Or so shun and be very tunnel vision. So it was kind of I don't you know, in my time ever being on the subway, I don't remember seeing anybody ever like going out of their way to sort of deal with somebody that was maybe acting up or being weird or anything like that. But I mean, I also, you know, I'm also from a different where can you do we know where Daniel Penny is from? Is he from? That's a good question. I don't know, because like if you put somebody in Cleveland in that situation who's not familiar with that culture or that environment, they may or say, anybody from the Midwest, they may be more inclined to say, hey, Lee person alone because we have that's kind of how our culture is here in the Midwest. So he Daniel Pinley is a marine veteran from West is Slip, New. York, Okay, So he's like from upstate then or like yeah, so that yeah, that's interesting, man, I don't that's very interesting. I don't know what the culture is like up there. I've never been up there, but yeah, I mean, I guessing maybe he just. So West Islip is in Suffolk County, so it's over in the Long Guy in the Long Island. Also, that's not upstates, so well, so he's got plenty of experience they're riding there. He should have plenty of experience riding. The subway. That's not upstate at all. Mean, wow, so yeah, he should he should, he should know. But I don't know. Some I saw somebody on Twitter say that maybe he's got a hero complex or you know, maybe he was just trying to do the right thing. That's the reason, part of the reason why I would never want to be on a jury, because we don't know. Yeah, I don't. I wonder though I don't. It doesn't seem like, do you think he tried to kill him? I don't think so. I don't think so. And uh, A lot of folks don't think he was trying to kill him, and some people, I mean some people do, but a lot of people don't think he. Was trying to kill him. I don't think he was trying to kill him. Yeah, And so I don't. I don't really understand the the culture and I mean not get the culture of New York, but I don't understand like like where like West is slip, Like I don't know, like I don't know how close Suffolk County or Long Island. I know that's considered. I know, like Suffolk County is considered like the suburbs of New York City, isn't it. Yeah? Yeah, And so but I'm sure he's probably had like he probably has a lot of experience, maybe being on a subway there or maybe and maybe that's why he reacted that way. Right, true, And also keep in mind, you know, like it also said he's a marine. He's a marine veteran, so he's trained to. Address an issue if he sees it right, right, you know what I mean. So I don't know if a marine or any member of a military, or any like off duty cop or cop from a different area, like if they saw that, they wouldn't try, like they're trained to intervene. Yeah, that's a very good point, you know what I mean. So that's I don't know, man, It's it's tough. It's tough. I don't I know. I know there are people trying to make this a racial issue because Daniel Penny's white and Jordan Neely, the guy who got into it with is black. I don't see that because there was a brother trying to help him too, trying to help Daniel Penny too, there was a black. Man, there was a Hispanic man like I. So I don't see that. I don't see it being a racial issue. You can agree or disagree with whether he should have intervened or not. I think that's a like I kind of know where I where, what side I'm leaning on, But I think it's I think you can have a fair debate about whether he should or shouldn't have intervened or not. But I don't think you could say it's racial though. Yeah, no, I mean it does it sound racial to you? It don't sound racial to me? No, it does. No, I don't know, it doesn't it really. I mean, what did he say anything that would make people think that or was. It just no? Yeah, it's hard to just put that out there. Yeah, they just calling it racial because he's white and the other guy's black. Well, I hate to break it to people, but black folks don't like being harassed on the subway either. No, why would you? Right? You know what I mean? Why would anybody, you know, we. Want to go on and this this is a complete side note, and then we'll wrap. But this is why I get into I get into it with a lot of these folks who are like extremely pro public transportation. I'm not anti public transportation. I do think everybody should have a good public transportation system. But I get into arguments with folks on social media, the people who can't imagine and understand why people may want to have a car and may not want to be forced to take the train or take the bus everywhere. This is kind of why, right exactly, don't nobody I I rode the bus a good bit, especially like in high schoolf I was able, you know, before I got a car. Yeah, I would prefer not to if I don't have to. I mean, like in fact, like it's almost like, no, I don't want to. I've got that, you know, I've done it plenty, but it's like, yeah, no, I don't. I don't want to. That's part of the reason why I wouldn't want to live I mean, I just I always told you I wouldn't want to live in New York because I wouldn't want to have. To ride this away I like being able to be in my own car and drive and. Right have freedom of movement. Like that's absolutely but this is part of the part of the conversation that we have with everything. Right, there are some folks who are what's the technical term for it, insane, who who wanted to control people's access to everything. They want to tell you what to do, what. To where, what to eat, what to drive, where to go, where to live, everything because they think they know better, you know what I mean. And it's like, there's a legitimate reason why there are folks. And again, I'm not anti public transportation. I think we should have a good public transportation system. I'm in support of that. But there's a reason why people are like, yeah, I want a car, right right, right, you know what I mean, Like, there's there's a. Reason for it. So I'm not how to follow you, sir. Follow me on Instagram and Twitter at tay Brian t A E. B R y E miss. You can follow me on Instagram at real Robin O'Malley, and you can follow me on Facebook at Robin O'Malley. And you can follow me at B D kings Been everywhere. That's d T H E K I N G P I N. Once again, make sure you check out the brand new website d Lawns Radio dot com. We are out of here, see next time. This has been a presentation of the f c B podcast Network where real talk lives. Visitors online at f Cbpodcasts dot com.
