Ep. 418 - Sarah Smith talks about the crisis in the healthcare system and its impact on nurses

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[00:00:59] We have a special guest that we're going to go to in just a little bit But first, Ms. O'Malley, how are you? Uh, I'm good I'm chilling, chilling, currently chilling How are you Darvio? I'm cool man, you know Like be lifing as they say Yeah I've been working quite a bit We have some things that's in store

[00:01:28] Some really good things coming soon So, we'll, uh We'll be talking about that in a little bit But, uh, but yeah I'm alright man, I'm alright, you know Life be lifing as the kids say And just keeping on, uh, on grinding You got any big plans for your, uh, weekend? We're taking this on a Friday So, for your weekend? No, actually I'm going to stay I think we're supposed to get a snowstorm here Um, tomorrow actually Saturday

[00:01:58] Oh, okay So, I am actually I was actually planning just to stay in And, um, work on my little project That I've been working on Yes I'm very excited about that project Thank you Hopefully I will get that out soon Yeah Oh, I, you know I'm a Capricorn So, I tend to overthink a little bit But This is true We're a critic This is true This is true Yeah, I'm looking forward to that man I'm looking forward to that project Um, that's gonna be, uh

[00:02:28] That's gonna be real dope But, I didn't know it was gonna be A snowstorm tomorrow I'm glad you told me that Because I'm gonna hunker down And not go outside at all tomorrow Um, cause I didn't know that Alright, we are going to get To our interview right now Alright, we have a very special guest On the show today She's an actor, actress, director Screenwriter, screen producer A whole bunch of stuff Everything in the business

[00:02:56] Um, in, in, in the film business In the film industry Um, but she's also here to talk about Something a little different She's, um, being an advocate On a very important topic That we're gonna get to Here in just a second But first, Sarah Smith Welcome to the show How are you? I'm wonderful Thank you for having me Absolutely That was a That was a great introduction By the way Top One of the top I've experienced so far Awesome

[00:03:26] Awesome Glad you liked it Glad you liked it So, um Um, we actually met Through, you know The, the entertainment industry Here, um In, in the city We're both Based in, in the Greater Cleveland area If you will And, um That was kind of how we How we met And how we knew each other But then, um During the course of that You know Something tragic happened And, kind of, um

[00:03:56] Took you in a direction Of, of focusing on Um, trying to advocate For a particular issue That involved your sister Um, so let's just start From the beginning Um, what Tell everybody You know, for people Who may not know Like, what, what happened? So, what happened was On October 7th Of, 2023 My sister Tristan Kate Smith Who was an emergency Department nurse In Dayton, Ohio

[00:04:25] Took her own life And behind She left a piece of writing Titled A letter to my abuser The abuser being The American healthcare system That she worked for The letter since We, it was been released Has gone viral Um, I've had people reach out From Canada, UK Australia Netherlands, India All over Um, and It's kind of led us To where we are today Which is

[00:04:56] Advocating and pushing For Ohio House Bill 285 Which would mandate Staff to patient ratios In hospitals Currently in the United States The only states that mandate this Are California Connecticut And Oregon And so Right now If you think about it this way You go to the emergency room Your nurse could have an unlimited Number of patients You know And that's just kind of crazy And so

[00:05:26] That's what we are Working towards In memory of My sister Because this is something that You know She talked about A lot And so Yeah So Um I know you mentioned that There was a letter That she wrote Yeah Did you Did you want to share a little bit of that? Yeah, sure I can read it Go right ahead Ever since I was young I expressed interest in healthcare

[00:05:55] And becoming a nurse So I began my study I gave my heart My body And my mind to you My long days and hours Dedicated in giving you my all There were times that working In the emergency room Were extremely difficult But also Extremely rewarding I have cried with my patients With their families And for them I have even been there They've even been there for me And emotionally supported me In my hard times

[00:06:24] The hands of all the patients And families I have held Hold mine with me Every day of my nursing career Encouraging me And showing me Why I do what I do I thought that would all Be all I needed To care for them And I know I have told you I'd be with you To the end Told you Oh my gosh I just started the end No I didn't Sorry No I didn't Okay You're gonna have to edit around that Sorry That's alright Do you wanna

[00:06:55] We're gonna start it all Yeah yeah yeah yeah I thought oh my god I was like Seriously Sarah Let me make sure I'm on the Okay hold up There is There's something missing up in her What is Yeah okay Ever since I was young I expressed interest in healthcare And becoming a nurse So I began my study I gave my heart My body And my mind to you My long days and hours Dedicated in giving you my all

[00:07:23] There were times that working in the emergency room Were extremely difficult But also extremely rewarding I have cried with my patients With their families And for them They have even been there for me And emotionally supported me During my hard times The hands of all the patients And families that I have held Hold mine Hold mine with me every day Of my nursing career Encouraging me And showing me why I do what I do

[00:07:54] I thought that would be all I needed To be able to care for them And I know I have told you I would be with you to the end Told you I would be there Through the good and the bad But you have taken my heart And slowly crushed The goodness it had You love-bombed me with affection Because I knew I was going into something that matters You made me feel comfortable Despite the rumors of your abusive past

[00:08:23] That I didn't want to believe The compliments, pizzas, and thank you letters Began to slowly have less meaning The staff I had to help began to go away They were unnecessary in your eyes But so necessary for the patients and nurses To provide what you advertise as quality care When I thought it couldn't get any worse

[00:08:52] You proved me very wrong When you started gaslighting and manipulating us You go around asking my colleagues and I To what we need to help patients And improve satisfaction scores But when we tell you the truth You instead send us online courses Saying we need to smile more and be friendlier I remember the first time I heard about nurses getting hit

[00:09:20] And how you asked what they did to get hurt Or didn't do to prevent someone else from hurting them Remember, you can't try to protect yourself By fighting back Just lay there With your hands over your head During the minutes it takes for security to come You started blaming us for things out of our control Started criminally charging my colleagues For things that were your own doing As you know

[00:09:49] The law doesn't care for the Swiss cheese model I no longer feel like you care about me Or the people you say you serve I sit at my front desk Just waiting for someone to come in and shoot my patients Just because of your lack of care for our protection You haven't even given us metal detectors Or proper security to promptly keep us safe You are only using and exploiting us to line your pocket

[00:10:18] With the common citizens money for overcharged healthcare You don't care about anyone Because you have a narcissistic personality If you say you cared Why don't you listen when we beg on our hands and knees You say that we do so much And that we put up with so much When we think we are finally going to get the love and support we deserve

[00:10:47] We only walk in to get free pizza and pens for the healthcare heroes The truth is You only care about your own personal greed I so desperately want to continue to help people But I cannot stay in this abusive relationship You have asked me to do more with less every day

[00:11:13] Beating me to the point that my body and my mind feel like they are black Bruised and bleeding out I am only sorry to my colleagues and patients You deserve so much better But my abusive partner is relentless And if I stay I will only lose my sanity And possibly my life forever Wow

[00:11:43] Wow Yeah So First of all I want to send my condolences for your loss Thank you That's heartbreaking Mm-hmm Did Did she ever Talk to you about what she was going through before this? Like, did she ever share that it was You know, very All the things that she was dealing with And all the pressures and all of that

[00:12:12] And how they weren't really helping her Is this something that she had talked about before? Yeah, absolutely I mean, I would get a lot of calls She worked at night But she would always call me, you know, around That 2am kind of moment or whatever Yeah And we would just kind of talk, you know What I've learned from all this is that She talked to each family member about different aspects Correct So, you know, for me it was about the people Because she knows that I work I've worked in customer service

[00:12:39] I've worked as a server for, you know, a lot of years And so we would kind of just talk about the ridiculousness of people So I knew about the stories about coworkers, you know, getting hit and stuff like that And things like that And things like that My dad, you know, knew about her Towards the end getting physically sick before going into shift And having a lot of anxiety surrounding it Wow

[00:13:07] Yeah, I knew that she was looking into like insurance and stuff Because she was so scared about being sued just for doing her job You know, there was a lot of fear in the end A lot of paranoia And that's kind of the culture that they've created Yeah, yeah I know nurses deal with a lot As a matter of fact, my cousin is a nurse

[00:13:33] And a couple of weeks ago she was carjacked on the way to go see one of her patients Oh, gosh That's awful, I'm sorry Yeah, I appreciate it But yeah, so I, you know, I get it It's quite a bit that they deal with So you mentioned that when you first started, when the letter came out and everything This went viral Talk a little bit about some of the responses that you've gotten from other people

[00:14:02] In the healthcare profession Or people who didn't know that this was going on You know, talk a little bit about some of the responses that you've gotten since everything went viral So as far as healthcare professionals, you know, it's been a lot of just stories and a lot of relating You know, a lot I would say the most popular comment, the most common comment was I am Tristan, I understand

[00:14:30] You know, and that alone breaks my heart But then, you know, to have I've spoken to probably I don't know, hundreds of people Just and listen to their stories about How The system tries to manipulate them and Make them believe that they're at fault And then instill this Level of fear in them to where They can't leave their job because they're barely getting paid enough But then they're terrified to do their job at the same time And so it's been very

[00:15:01] Very emotionally overwhelming to an extent But also like eye-opening in the most necessary way As far as people not in the industry, you know, it's kind of It's a little bit different because I think it's one of those unless you know someone or you Know it, you don't really understand it You know, and to that I just say Nursing is an inherently difficult job

[00:15:29] There are a lot of stressors There are a lot of things that Will never understand that come along with the job And that you understand when you decide to go on that career path But the system shouldn't make it worse You know, and Probably one of the most common responses outside of the system that I get is She should have just left her job It's not worth, you know, her life Sure, we try to encourage her to maybe take a step back And stuff like that But here's the thing

[00:15:58] The Ohio Nurses Association released a study And you know, we've already lost so many nurses It's a crisis, right? Well, 70% of Ohio nurses are considering leaving bedside Because of the current conditions that they work in 70% So we've lost say What? Like probably Let's just say out of 10 nurses, we lose five So out of that five, another 70% are considering leaving What does it take you down to?

[00:16:27] 1.3, 1.4 nurses doing the job of 10 people Right So yeah, they could leave their job But guess what? You're going to go into the ER And you're not going to be able to be seen You know, that Leaving the job isn't the solution Let's create an environment Where these people can still take care of us when we need them most Right, right And there's I mean, and there's already a A nurse's shortage as it is Like, so That would just

[00:16:57] The system would collapse at that point If You know, 70% Right Decided to leave when we're all When we already don't have enough nurses right now Yeah, that's terrifying Go ahead It's terrifying It's terrifying Yeah You know, if that doesn't scare you Then I don't know what will But like, you know And that's just right now Imagine what happens five years down the road When that one nurse is doing all that work Do you think they're going to stick around? Exactly

[00:17:27] And you're not even considering You're not even thinking about, you know Nurses that, you know Are getting ready to retire too And all that kind of stuff Like it's, it's just That would be a It would be a cycle of doom It would destroy the whole system So something Something has to be done So speaking of the something that has to be done You mentioned earlier About a bill That you're trying to get passed With the Ohio legislator Say the name of the bill again

[00:17:57] And then talk about what it would do That was a fantastic segue The bill is You're welcome It is Ohio House Bill 285 And so it is a bipartisan bill That has been introduced And already had its first hearing The first in three years For a bill of this type And it essentially would establish Establish nurse to patient ratios At hospitals So currently in the United States

[00:18:25] The only states to have something of the sort Are California, Oregon, and Connecticut And so, but multiple states have Similar legislation, you know, introduced It just always kind of dies out So our goal is to not let that happen this time So and Okay, and Yeah No, go ahead I forget what I was going to say Go right ahead So So

[00:18:55] What's been the Response so far down in Columbus? Are the lawmakers receptive to it? So, you know, they They have been receptive of it to a point I think that they all You know, there's been a lot of They want to hear it out You know, when we talk to the speaker of the house Wants to hear it out Minority leader Everyone kind of wants to Hear it out and hash it out So legislatures I think they're okay with it Who's not okay with it

[00:19:24] Is the Ohio Hospital Association And the Ohio Chamber of Commerce From what I hear So, you know, it You know, there's opposition And the At least from a quote that I read The reasoning is that It would already put pressure On an already Crippled system And To that I say Well, there was a study done From the Ohio Nurses Association That surveyed over a thousand nurses

[00:19:52] And ninety-one percent of them Said they would support legislation Like this I don't know if you understand how difficult It is to get ninety-one percent Of a thousand people to agree on something But like In this country? Yeah, right So, you know, I'm not a nurse I don't know I just know from what I've studied Like what I've researched And what, you know, people have told me And stuff But like, to me That's kind of like, oh, a lot of people agree

[00:20:22] So why, why not? And the reason why not is because You're gonna have to have more staff, right? Right Right So there's already a nursing shortage So how do you get more people in? Well, of that same study They said about forty percent, I think Of nurses would consider returning to bedside If there were mandates in place for ratios So it's not perfect But it's something, right? Right. Well, and not only that Like it would

[00:20:51] I think in a situation like that That you could possibly encourage more people To maybe consider entering into the field I mean, we have In Ohio, like There is a lot of major Large healthcare organizations And hospitals and things like that And they need more nurses anyway Right Well, if you make the environment better Maybe you'll get the nurses that you need You know what I mean? Right

[00:21:20] That, and so it's great that you mentioned that Because another part, the second part of this bill Is that it is a loan to grant program For nursing students Who work out there five years I don't know what the specific circumstances are If it's like public hospital or whatnot But, so it's a loan to grant program So after five years, your loans are turned into grants And forgiven, you know? So it's not only trying to Help ease the pressure currently It's looking towards the future

[00:21:50] And in speaking to these representatives You know, they are willing to Say things like, hey, you know what? If you can prove that you have made A viable effort to hire people And there just aren't enough We're not going to punish you for that Under this legislation Right? So they're trying to make exceptions They're trying to account for the current environment You know, but For whatever reason

[00:22:17] So that's part one of why they say that they Disapprove of this bill The second part of that was that it would And this gets me Limit innovation How? Well, how would be Using the fewest amount of people To do the most amount of work on the most floors? That's how it would limit their innovation Wow Because they're cutting to their profits Because suddenly they have to pay more people That's what it boils down to

[00:22:47] There, I said it Wow And you know, it's like we see what you're doing No one's called you out until now But guess what? I'm calling you out I know exactly what you're doing, bro Right, right I mean, that's the same That's the same logic that is Especially in this state That's the same logic that has devastated a lot of our other industries We're having a national conversation right now About the stuff that we've given away And the jobs that we've given away Right

[00:23:15] Because of quote unquote innovation We already know that our people are suffering Because of the things that we've given away And like I don't think the healthcare system Is the thing you want to play with Right? That needs to work Well, you know United States, we are number one in healthcare costs Number one We're number like Oh gosh, I don't even know Like 58th or something like that, I think And like overall healthcare quality What does that tell you? What am I paying for?

[00:23:44] Honestly, what does my $624 a month go towards? Yeah, that's insane That's insane You tell me You know? Yeah But Yeah, you know, healthcare It needs an overall reform It's, you know, we could go on and on and on about You know, from a consumer perspective From an employee perspective You know, it's just so messed up, man

[00:24:11] You know, and this is just one little step to help make it Just a tiny bit more tolerable Until we can just add more resources And to finally make it something that people want to do again Right? And that'll help with the pace That'll help with the patients too Like nobody wants to be in this situation right now Like nobody's happy The patients aren't happy The employees aren't happy Nobody's happy Did you know that like 30... Oh God

[00:24:41] The most recent study was 32% of nurses Think about harming themselves Wow 32% They don't act on it But like, think about it Wow Female nurses are twice as likely to commit suicide In the general population My goodness Wow It's crazy And we've had these numbers These aren't new numbers And they're only going to continue to go up Right

[00:25:10] So, you know, something needs to be done And like, if you don't like what's being proposed That's okay But give us another option Don't just not like the idea Right You know, if you don't like the idea And you're not going to say But let's try this You're not willing to compromise You just want to have your cake and eat it too Yeah, yeah, absolutely So, I know You just talked about What the response has been Are there any

[00:25:39] Elected officials that are sponsoring Or co-sponsoring the bill? Yeah, so it is a bipartisan bill Names You're going to ask me names, aren't you? Yeah You're going to edit this part out too Yeah, I get it No, you're good I just... Okay, hold on Let's pull up there Okay, that's right It's a hard name to pronounce Okay, so yes, there actually are

[00:26:07] So this is a bipartisan bill It is sponsored by Representatives Gambari And Rogers Jr. So Republican and Democrat working together on this bill You know, which I... That by itself is a miracle That should say a lot about the bill Just alone that it's a bipartisan bill That should say something about the bill Honestly, yes, but also this isn't

[00:26:34] You know, this isn't an issue of size This isn't a Republican issue This isn't a Democrat issue This is just a human issue Right Like, honestly, who doesn't like nurses? Like, if you've been to the hospital A nurse is taking care of you You know, so it's just like It's kind of mind-blowing to me that we expect these people to take care of us But we're not willing to take care of them That's right It's weird, you know I don't understand it That's right Here comes the millennial in me I'm going to start saying I don't understand this I don't understand that

[00:27:06] Right, right So what's next? Is there a hearing on the bill anytime soon? So for this particular bill It already had its first hearing So we're waiting to hear back as far as when the next hearing will be So we're kind of just in a stalemate for that right now But I know that it's There are people trying to shut it down so that it doesn't make it any further Right

[00:27:36] Which is, you know, unfortunate However, there is a workplace violence bill that currently had its second meeting And so, you know, it's just another element to my sister's letter and the experiences So this would help limit the workplace violence If you think about it, what happens if you hit a cop? Right? You're going to jail Exactly What happens if you hit a nurse? Nothing

[00:28:06] Wow Who signs up to get literally physically assaulted? And then to not be allowed to say, hey, this happened And then your employer would be like, well, what did you do wrong? Yeah, that's foul It is It's absolutely insane So that is also another element of it Would love to see the bill passed, you know, kind of along the same lines But for me, it's about the staffing ratios Right

[00:28:36] You know, because it just seems to make sense, you know, and I would love to see workplace violence I would love to see the bill passed I would also love to see some mental health bills be passed Because what I've gathered from everyone that I've spoken with is that they're just scared to seek help And I don't like that You know, because Some hospitals will offer mental health services

[00:29:05] Like my sister's hospital did But when my dad asked her if she would go talk to that person She said, oh hell no That's a That'll I'll lose my license Oh, they're not there for you They're there to determine if you can quote unquote do your job And it's more of like a threatening thing It's not to make sure you're okay It's to, you know, protect the hospital And if they say you're not going to do your job, you're not going to get paid

[00:29:34] And then when you're not getting paid, what happens? You lose, you could lose a lot of stuff You could lose your house, your car Maybe you got kids that need to be fed, you know So it's like A lot of the people that we've asked and you know, we're currently in the process My sister and I are of doing a study on these exact questions So I can't release the results But you know, I can hint at things And that is that People don't feel safe with the mental health services being offered

[00:30:02] But if there were statutes and limitations in place to where they didn't have to report it to their employer Unless they were, you know, a risk to themselves or their patients A significant amount would be willing to seek help that they need Wow You know, and it's the same with police officers, paramedics We expect these firefighters

[00:30:28] We expect these people to be in like these high adrenaline risky careers But then you're expected to go to the next call like it was nothing There's no decompression You know, I had a regular that was a cop And you know, he would say, you know, oh, it's dead body day And then I have to go deal with the property dispute right after that But yet you're still messed up by all the morbidness you just saw You know, there's no we don't allow for this decompression And yes, again, they are these stressful jobs, but like

[00:30:57] They're still humans They're human beings That's exactly what I was thinking They're still human beings Yeah, so we've kind of gotten away from the human aspect and just expected You'd be like, well, you just have to suck it up You just have to suck it up The days of sucking it up are over because look what's happening Look what happened to my sister She had that mentality You know, you would tell her to get help Oh, no, it's okay. I'll be all right It's the sucking it up because you don't want to show any sign of weakness Yeah

[00:31:27] Until it just pushes you over the edge and I don't want that for anybody Yeah, you know Yeah, that's Man, that's unfortunate I'm I'm really helpful from everything that And we've talked about this before off the air Yeah So I'm a little familiar with it So I'm very hopeful from everything that I've heard about the bill I hope the bill passes I think it's something that we need

[00:31:53] And I know that there are some elected officials that listen to this show So I hope they hear this episode and understand the importance of this particular bill So for people who are listening who may want to help, may want their voices to be heard or want to help in this effort What can they do? What can they do to help? Well, you can definitely write your representatives You know, there is power in numbers

[00:32:22] And the more you send it in on the same topic, the more likely they are to hear about it And that is coming directly from people that I've spoken to, you know So keep writing your representatives and honestly, talk about it I don't care if it's on social media or in-person conversations But you know, the way things get done in this country

[00:32:45] Is when the people make it so loud that an issue cannot be ignored That's the only way things get done So like for me, I will walk around You know, I'm in downtown, Ohio With my asking about house bill 285 t-shirt on And I will gladly talk to anyone that asked me about it, you know But you know, we just have to continue to share and continue to share my sister's story You know, no family should have to go through this

[00:33:15] No father should have to find their daughter The way that my dad did You know, that is not okay I am not okay with that And so if we can continue to talk about this and help prevent it for one more family This is so worth it, you know And that is the theme of my family But talk about it, everybody Ask questions If you have friends in the healthcare industry Ask questions

[00:33:41] Be like, hey, I heard this podcast and I heard some things Are you willing to speak to me about it? You know, and lastly, check in on your healthcare friends too You know, be like, I'm here if you need me How can I help you? You know, if you feel like someone is struggling I know it's scary and it's easy to shut down But you know, try to just offer that hand How can I help you?

[00:34:12] Because usually it's just having someone to listen to To really just get it off your chest Yeah And if someone Yeah And you know, if you or someone you know is struggling You can call or text the National Suicide Hotline At 988 So simple, 988 So, as we wind down here I would be remiss if I didn't ask

[00:34:41] You, how are you doing? And how is your father doing? I mean, obviously, you know This has been a traumatic experience for your whole family So, how are y'all doing through all this? You know, for me personally It, you know, varies by day Unfortunately, this is not the first experience I've had With a close family death Won't be the last But you know, you learn to just survive day by day

[00:35:11] Some days are better than others That is part of the grieving process You know, I account a lot of therapy And just an amazing support group Just really checking in on me And making sure everything is good You know, my employers Have been fantastic You know, I'm very fortunate To have that support system You know, and for my dad I think it's kind of the same thing He has an amazing support system

[00:35:39] He, you know, has done the therapy And I think for him He just He really has a purpose I've never My dad has always been a very hard worker But I've never seen him Quite so passionate about anything As what I have seen him Exert these past several months You know, so for him It is all about This change and being a change for the good

[00:36:09] And we're not just going to stop with Ohio Ohio is a stepping stone Ohio has an opportunity to be one of the first But you know, there are 46 other states That still don't have these laws in place There are still federal mandates that can be done So you know, I think that When it comes to deaths like this You can either Keep it quiet And just do your own thing Or you can talk about it And try to help other people

[00:36:37] And we chose the second without hesitation Absolutely, well that's a beautiful thing I'm glad to see That your family is turning You know, pain into purpose That's always the best The best route to go Is to take that pain and turn it into purpose So if people want to get any more information You know, is there Social media or anything they can go to?

[00:37:05] So you can definitely check me out on Instagram Sarah with an H Underscore Beth Smith There are several links to the different house bills My sister's stories posted on there Her letters posted on the page All that kind of stuff You might get bombarded with some film stuff too Sorry, not sorry But you know, I think that's the best way You can, you know, just Google Ohio House Bill 285 You know, if you want some of the statistics That I talked about

[00:37:34] It is Ohio Nurses Association code red That was a study that they did So that'll be listed on that page as well All right, my friend Thank you So much for coming on the show It's unfortunate that it was on this topic Maybe next time You can come back and talk about all the other stuff That you have going on Because you have an incredible story You're doing incredible work And you really being a boss out here in this business

[00:38:03] So we definitely going to talk about that Next time you come back on But thank you for sharing this with us I definitely appreciate it Well, thank you for having me And thank you for allowing me to talk about this Absolutely All right, stay tuned We have more to come on the Outlaws We'll be right back Welcome back to The Outlaws Radio

[00:38:34] Welcome back Welcome back You're listening to The Outlaws One more time Want to send a special shout out to Sarah Smith Coming on the show We really appreciate it And now is the time of the show that we like to call Tea Time with Roe Turn it up The latest celebrity news and gossip So you better ask permission It's Tea Time with Roe on The Outlaws Radio Show If you want to You guys Oh my gosh

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[00:39:59] And as If anybody you know of our regular listeners You all know that I have a daughter And so I'm so excited to take her I don't know if I'm excited for her Or if I'm excited for me But I'm excited okay So I just had to bring that up Because all Rihanna been on Is her lingerie and her makeup And my girl she's stepping out of the box So shout out to her for that Yes absolutely I am a Rihanna fan

[00:40:30] Many people may not know that But I am a Rihanna fan So I am looking forward to this I want to see some new music Yes I can't wait I'm so excited I love her that's my girl All her albums Like her older albums I'm telling you right now I have them all the time Blaring in my car Like as if they just came out Right Her stuff goes platinum in my car all the time I'm like

[00:41:00] So anyway Next So we are going to move to Somebody that we don't hear about often It is a It is a top Legend actor In my personal opinion If you don't know who he is You've been under a rock your entire life Jackie Chan You better know who he is I'm just saying I'm judging We listen and we don't judge

[00:41:30] But I'm judging So Jackie Chan He wants to donate His 400 million fortune to charity He said Listen to this When I was a child I was very poor and wanted everything Now I want to give away everything When I give somebody something And see their face It just makes me so happy

[00:42:00] Instead of giving it to his son This is what he wants to do And oh my god That just almost put me in tears That is beautiful That is so beautiful That is I mean I would still leave some My child But I absolutely I love that I Wow So that's exactly where I feel about it Because of that Because Here's the thing

[00:42:29] To me You absolutely should donate money to charity I love that part I don't love the part of not giving anything to your kids To me Especially Since Jackie talked about growing up poor As you and I both grew up poor I don't want my kids to have to deal with what I dealt with You know what I'm saying Like We are

[00:42:59] Striving To like when I have kids I want my kids I don't My kids are going to have their own struggles Right? And they're going to have to work I don't want to I don't want everything to just be handed to them But there is a There's a point in bringing in And making sure they have an inheritance I want my kids To have an inheritance You know what I'm saying? I think it's a good thing That they have an inheritance So I don't I don't

[00:43:29] I don't like that I don't like that part Like I love the whole Giving Donating Money to charity Donating a lot of money to charity But you know Even the Bible talks about Proverbs 13 22 says A good man leaves an inheritance To his children's children So not just your kids But your grandkids You know what I'm saying? Like I don't see anything wrong with that And so that kind of

[00:43:59] And I know that there's a lot of rich people Who say that And do that Where they're like I'm not leaving my kids or anything I don't like that I think That's part of like What we striving for Is to be able to Have a legacy And And change the trajectory Of your family So I mean that's my thoughts I mean what What's your thoughts on that? You know what? I feel That yes Leave money for your family For your children

[00:44:28] And their children But However Maybe kind of do it in the sense of Educating your children And having teaching them along the way Before you know It comes to the point where you decide To give the money up Maybe teach them along the way To how To earn their money To know how to earn And to hustle Absolutely That way they don't grow up You know

[00:44:57] Expecting or having that That That mindset Where you know They're constantly thinking Oh I'm good I'm good Yeah I agree You know You don't want them to be in that way Because life You know Life Life Right Right Right Right I think that's my personal opinion You know But yes Leave some for your children

[00:45:26] Maybe split it in half Or something You know Right Leave some for your children But also donate I wouldn't say Or maybe like Start Like open up a home Or something For homeless people Or something Like that's what I would love to do If I became rich I would want to open up Some type of a home That housed Hold on Stop Robin You meant You meant when I just wanted to correct you real quick

[00:45:55] Go ahead Continue Appreciate that My bad Appreciate that Yeah So I would I would want to open up Have a house built A building A big nice place built Or even like A neighborhood Mm-hmm And house the homeless And help them By getting IDs And help them By getting You know On their feet And getting started At least Getting them in the proper place

[00:46:25] Like you could do things like that You know what I mean? Like something like that Where you can start a program Where that you could do that And I'm not saying like section eight Like where people get too comfortable Right Like there's gotta be A way to go about it But yeah Just I could go on about that forever But that's just my opinion on that Yeah and I'm not saying that there shouldn't be like You can't have like Benchmarks that your kids have to hit In order to get certain dollar amounts

[00:46:55] And stuff like that Rich people set that up all the time Where certain things that you have to do You know what I mean? And so I agree with that But I just don't like the idea of leaving nothing to your kids Like you're supposed to leave You're supposed to leave money to your kids Yeah no my kids will not They if When There you go When I get to that place in life My kids will be set Exactly Because the thing is Me personally growing up And just like how Jackie Chan said He grew up poor

[00:47:25] He grew up in the struggle Right You know My children You know we're not poor But you know what We also are not We're not comfortable Right You know what I mean? And you came from the struggle You grew up poor So you know what it's like Yeah you know what I mean? And my son you know He's seen a lot of it He ain't seen what I went through before him But you know Like he's seen it all And so you know

[00:47:54] I mean my kids they know hustle Right But I would still make sure that they are set and they're straight Irregardless like if something happens to you or something You want your kids to be good Right So Please my kids I don't know But shout out to them We love Jackie Chan Shout out to them Right Shout out to Jackie Chan Alright close it out So yes actually we have one more

[00:48:19] And this one is a topic that we often talk about here on the Outlaws I don't know if we talk about it on air or more off air than on air But we talk about it So I may I may potentially get called to pick me I don't know It depends on who's listening But I will voice my opinion

[00:48:47] So there is a story It is going around Well video that is going around viral Of Bow Wow Who was also in the 90s Me in 90s I don't even know about 2000s It was Yeah like late 90s Early 2000s Okay so He had a quick little run So little Bow Wow Okay If you from that era You know you know If you know you know So Bow Wow

[00:49:17] And his girlfriend They got into an altercation I'm not sure how it started What went down Etc. etc. There is a clip though That is going around Showing from the police From their camera Their body footage Of Bow Wow Talking about and explaining What had happened And he The way that he was expressing himself Almost appeared as acting And because he wasn't yelling

[00:49:46] He was actually talking But in kind of almost in a whisper tone Right And people were judging him on that Saying oh Bow Wow Is such a good actor He's such an actor Blah blah blah blah blah And people talking about him Men especially Saying like you know Calling him a punk And you know Saying that you ain't supposed to do that And saying this that In the fourth In the comments Like in all kinds of different posts So Bow Wow In his picture That was taken by the police

[00:50:16] He has I mean big gashes On his face Oh wow He has a couple of gashes He has two Underneath both of his eyes It definitely appears That it probably turned into a black eye Both of them And the girlfriend has not one single mark on her Not one single physical appearance Of a mark on her at all Wow And by people saying these comments I have something that I want to say about that

[00:50:48] We need to stop trying to Hush men We need to stop trying to take their voice away Because there are There are women That are abusive Yep And sometimes A lot of times Whether people want to admit it or not Or accept it or not Women Women Can be abusive Just all on their own Because they crazy bees Okay

[00:51:17] They just abusive And And they just do that They are off their meds Okay Like there are women That are like that That will verbally abuse a man Physically abuse a man Emotionally abuse a man Whatever Like it It goes for women too And we need to stop trying to make men Be quiet And tell them that they cannot have emotions Or they cannot speak on it And say This woman abused me

[00:51:47] This woman put her hands on me Yeah That's got to stop Now if had it been a situation Where it could have been similar So when it went down with Chris Brown Where him and Rihanna Had gotten into an altercation And now he's Like Chris Brown is still being You know Accounted for with it Yeah Like people are still trying to like Cancel him But instead of Bow Wow

[00:52:16] Putting his hands on this girl He told the police what happened And he's sitting here trying to explain what happened And he did not put his hands on her In my personal opinion If he did not put his hands on her I don't know the whole story I'm just saying my opinion based off of what I'm seeing If he did not put his hands on her He is doing the right thing He is doing the right thing By speaking up And telling them what happened And he did not put his hands on her

[00:52:46] And I respect him for that Yeah, I mean You know, I've known people In situations like that Where, you know They've gotten hit By that woman We've had conversations before I got a couple of homeboys That have went through that I've gotten hit before And not hit back You know what I'm saying? Like, so But it's one of those things Where it's like you a punk Or whatever If you talk about it

[00:53:15] And, you know, people Don't, they don't look at it the same way You know what I mean? They don't look at it When men go through it The same way as When a woman goes through it It's, you know, men is A man is looked at as being weak If they even acknowledge That they're going through things like that But, you know, a woman is looked at as brave When they talk about the issues that they deal with

[00:53:44] And I just think that No matter whether it's a man or a woman Keep your MFing hands to yourself I agree I absolutely agree And to the fellas You are not weak If anything, that makes you strong That makes you strong And, you know, you have to protect yourself And, you know, you got to get these abusers off the streets I'm just saying, you know

[00:54:13] You know, it goes both ways He's like, I'm going to tell you right I'm a mom of a girl and a mom of a boy, okay? If somebody puts If a man puts their hands on my daughter I'm coming for him If a girl puts her hands on my son Either I'm coming for her Or my daughter coming for her Probably my daughter for real Before I even get there But... Don't Just don't

[00:54:41] You can be out here boxing with this girl I want y'all to know I look young enough, okay? So by the time he start dating Which will be not for like another 30 years That's what you hope, right? Right? We're not today No, but I look young enough So I will whoop on you Don't do that All right Let them know how to follow you, Miss O'Malley

[00:55:10] You can follow me on Instagram At RealRobinO'Malley And on Facebook at Robin O'Malley And as long as TikTok is up and going That is RealRobinO'Malley I've been posting on there too And kind of giving hints, by the way On my TikTok here and there On the little project that I've been speaking on So follow there or Instagram to see that Notice how she just went from Beating... Saying she gonna beat your daughter up

[00:55:39] To sounding all nice and sweet I'm a sourpest kid, okay? Y'all can follow me at D-TheKingPit everywhere That's D-T-H-E-K-I-N-G-P-I-N One more time Thank you to... Blah, blah, blah, blah One more time Thank you to Sarah Smith for coming on the show We're really appreciate it We are outta here We'll see you next time Peace

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